What full stack to use with ELM?

[Fernando Alegre]

I am not a Web developer, but I need to create a web application to be used in-house. I need to deploy everything necessary to run the application, so I was looking at something really simple that is as self-contained as possible and has a gentle learning curve. Elm seems to be very good for that, but I don't see how it covers the full stack. So, my question is, what servers/databases/etc would you recommend to have a full stack web application with Elm as one of its main components?  When I google for "full stack", I get results about MEAN (mongoDB+express+angular+node). I wonder what is the Elm+???+???+??? equivalent.

[Joey Eremondi]

Elm just generates JavaScript as an output, and it isn't tied to any particular stack. So you can use whatever stack you want to serve the JS that Elm generates.

There are some tools out there for sharing datatypes between Elm and Haskell if you're interested in Snap/Scotty/Yesod/Servant/Happstack or any other Haskell framework.

On Thu, Dec 3, 2015 at 2:22 PM, Fernando Alegre <fernand...@gmail.com> wrote:

I am not a Web developer, but I need to create a web application to be used in-house. I need to deploy everything necessary to run the application, so I was looking at something really simple that is as self-contained as possible and has a gentle learning curve. Elm seems to be very good for that, but I don't see how it covers the full stack. So, my question is, what servers/databases/etc would you recommend to have a full stack web application with Elm as one of its main components?  When I google for "full stack", I get results about MEAN (mongoDB+express+angular+node). I wonder what is the Elm+???+???+??? equivalent.

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[Ryan Rempel]

I don't think there is a single dominant answer for the best server / database to use with an Elm front-end, but there are some options that could be mentioned.

NoRedInk has a package that helps Elm work with a Rails backend -- I haven't looked at it closely myself:

http://package.elm-lang.org/packages/NoRedInk/elm-rails/latest

There are some Elm packages for working with FireBase -- I haven't tried them either, but they look fascinating.

http://package.elm-lang.org/packages/ThomasWeiser/elmfire/latest

http://package.elm-lang.org/packages/ThomasWeiser/elmfire-extra/latest

Gizra is doing some interesting work with Elm and a headless Drupal backend:

https://github.com/Gizra/elm-hedley

One kind-of-logical option is working with a Haskell server -- I suppose the Elm package web-site is one example of that approach:

https://github.com/elm-lang/package.elm-lang.org

Another logical option would be working with npm and (say) express as a Javascript server. I can't remember seeing an example of that, though.

Finally, if the server can send and receive JSON, Elm can be made to integrate with it. For instance, I've got an app that is Spring + Postgresql at the backend, and I'm working on porting the front-end to Elm:

https://github.com/rgrempel/csrs-elm

I'm sure others can think of other approaches -- I've probably missed some obvious options.

[Simon]

I just use it with Node/Express https://github.com/simonh1000/elm-fullstack-starter

[Zac Audette]

I plan on using django and postgresql with ELM.

[Emilien Taque]

https://twitter.com/rtfeldman/status/672545644616114176 ;-)

I'm using it with Scala & Play Framework, but watching the progress on server-side Elm.

[Alan Gardner]

I have a series of blog posts I'm writing on using Elm with Phoenix (Elixir) on the backend.

http://www.cultivatehq.com/posts/phoenix-elm-1

Alan

[Zachary Kessin]

I am using Elm with Erlang and Webmachine here

Zach

On 12/3/15 10:22 PM, Fernando Alegre wrote:

I am not a Web developer, but I need to create a web application to be used in-house. I need to deploy everything necessary to run the application, so I was looking at something really simple that is as self-contained as possible and has a gentle learning curve. Elm seems to be very good for that, but I don't see how it covers the full stack. So, my question is, what servers/databases/etc would you recommend to have a full stack web application with Elm as one of its main components?  When I google for "full stack", I get results about MEAN (mongoDB+express+angular+node). I wonder what is the Elm+???+???+??? equivalent.

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[Michel Rijnders]

At TruQu we're using Erlang too, but with Cowboy instead of Webmachine.

[Kamil Chmielewski]

It's just an idea but I wonder if we can build apps in Elm targeted to ArangoDB Foxx https://www.arangodb.com/foxx/
It can do really impressive stuff combined with Mesos https://mesosphere.com/blog/2015/11/30/arangodb-benchmark-dcos/

Cheers,
Kamil

[Jaroslaw Zabiello]

Why not? You can communicate with ArangoDB through REST API. Although ArangoDB has no real time features, which can be very useful for more advanced web app. Maybe more interesting would be RethinkDB http://www.rethinkdb.com (e.g. together with Deepstream Node HTTP server which has builtin support for RethinkDB http://deepstream.io/).

I  concern about scaling of Elm. Keeping the state in the module is not the best idea. See http://www.christianalfoni.com/articles/2015_11_30_Exploring-Elm-part1 (and comments)