Elgin Sweeper Trip
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Rusty
Dec 11, 2012, 3:34:00 PM12/11/12
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(repost from Mark)
I called this company last week to see if they conducted tours. They
said they would by appointment for a group, and I'm checking to see if
there's any interest.
I mentioned to them that one of the things we did was to serve
businesses by connecting them with qualified techs, and the lady I spoke
to agreed that they should talk to us.
Beyond that, this place is on the east side of town, and it's like
having an auto plant here - she confirmed that they build the sweepers
from scratch at this location.
I'm up for just seeing the manufacturing operations and factory tech,
and we might get a few nibbles on the work front. Please let me know if you'd like to go. She said mid-late January would
be good for them.
I called this company last week to see if they conducted tours. They
said they would by appointment for a group, and I'm checking to see if
there's any interest.
I mentioned to them that one of the things we did was to serve
businesses by connecting them with qualified techs, and the lady I spoke
to agreed that they should talk to us.
Beyond that, this place is on the east side of town, and it's like
having an auto plant here - she confirmed that they build the sweepers
from scratch at this location.
I'm up for just seeing the manufacturing operations and factory tech,
and we might get a few nibbles on the work front. Please let me know if you'd like to go. She said mid-late January would
be good for them.
Darren Holland
Dec 11, 2012, 3:49:54 PM12/11/12
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I worked there many moons ago. There machine shop is breathtaking. I would be interested in going on a tour if one were set up.
Rusty
Dec 12, 2012, 7:33:15 PM12/12/12
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I would be interested too.
Dean Pannell
Dec 12, 2012, 8:34:15 PM12/12/12
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Sounds like fun.
I worked for GM many, many moons ago, and spent a bit of time in Buick
and Oldsmobile factories.
A different world.
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gelde...@aol.com
Dec 13, 2012, 12:01:38 PM12/13/12
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This is a nice and very bold step. I think it important that we finish our spreadsheet or database of skill and services offered by members so that we are not embarassed by not being able to show what we can offer to a prospect or answer a specific questions in a very timely fashion.
Thanks for the effort. Good show.
DON
Thanks for the effort. Good show.
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Michael Copeland
Dec 13, 2012, 12:23:11 PM12/13/12
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So does that mean you don't want to go on the tour Don?
I think it's important to create the database too and don't know why anyone should feel embarrassed because we don't have one. We've been her for 2 years without one and it doesn't happen over night. That shouldn't stop people from doing cool things or working on other projects. Not to go off topic, but are you going to be at the member directory hackathon to make this happen?
Darren Holland
Dec 13, 2012, 12:24:26 PM12/13/12
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Things may come to those who wait, but only the things left by those who hustle. Some president from Illinois.
gelde...@aol.com
Dec 13, 2012, 1:15:38 PM12/13/12
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I do not think I said I did not want to participate in any events you mention. I support them. I merely want us to focus on being able to tell any potential customer what people can deliver the services they inquire about.
There is nothing negative about that.
Hope that sets the record straight.
DON
There is nothing negative about that.
Hope that sets the record straight.
DON
Mark Zeman
Dec 13, 2012, 1:41:52 PM12/13/12
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Great. I replied to the plant manager's email already, and I'm supposed
to call him next week to set up something for mid-late January.
-mz
On Wed, 12 Dec 2012, Rusty wrote:
> I would be interested too.
>
> On Tuesday, December 11, 2012 2:49:54 PM UTC-6, Darren Holland wrote:
>>
>> I worked there many moons ago. There machine shop is breathtaking. I would
>> be interested in going on a tour if one were set up.
>>
>> On Tuesday, December 11, 2012 2:34:00 PM UTC-6, Rusty wrote:
>>>
>>> *(repost from Mark)
to call him next week to set up something for mid-late January.
-mz
On Wed, 12 Dec 2012, Rusty wrote:
> I would be interested too.
>
> On Tuesday, December 11, 2012 2:49:54 PM UTC-6, Darren Holland wrote:
>>
>> I worked there many moons ago. There machine shop is breathtaking. I would
>> be interested in going on a tour if one were set up.
>>
>> On Tuesday, December 11, 2012 2:34:00 PM UTC-6, Rusty wrote:
>>>
>>> I called this company last week to see if they conducted tours. They
>>> said they would by appointment for a group, and I'm checking to see if
>>> there's any interest.
>>>
>>> I mentioned to them that one of the things we did was to serve
>>> businesses by connecting them with qualified techs, and the lady I spoke
>>> to agreed that they should talk to us.
>>>
>>> Beyond that, this place is on the east side of town, and it's like
>>> having an auto plant here - she confirmed that they build the sweepers
>>> from scratch at this location.
>>>
>>> I'm up for just seeing the manufacturing operations and factory tech,
>>> and we might get a few nibbles on the work front. Please let me know if
>>> you'd like to go. She said mid-late January would
>>> be good for them. *
>>> said they would by appointment for a group, and I'm checking to see if
>>> there's any interest.
>>>
>>> I mentioned to them that one of the things we did was to serve
>>> businesses by connecting them with qualified techs, and the lady I spoke
>>> to agreed that they should talk to us.
>>>
>>> Beyond that, this place is on the east side of town, and it's like
>>> having an auto plant here - she confirmed that they build the sweepers
>>> from scratch at this location.
>>>
>>> I'm up for just seeing the manufacturing operations and factory tech,
>>> and we might get a few nibbles on the work front. Please let me know if
>>> you'd like to go. She said mid-late January would
Mark Zeman
Dec 13, 2012, 1:54:12 PM12/13/12
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Dino. et al,
Here are other database possibilities. OrangeCRM looks really nice. I
logged into the demo site and it tracks vacancies and recruits.
-mz
http://freecode.com/projects/orangehrm
http://freecode.com/projects/simplehrm
Mark Zeman
Cerebral Software, Inc.
847-392-3860 24 hrs
mze...@cerebralsoftware.com
http://www.cerebralsoftware.com
Here are other database possibilities. OrangeCRM looks really nice. I
logged into the demo site and it tracks vacancies and recruits.
-mz
http://freecode.com/projects/orangehrm
http://freecode.com/projects/simplehrm
Mark Zeman
Cerebral Software, Inc.
847-392-3860 24 hrs
mze...@cerebralsoftware.com
http://www.cerebralsoftware.com
Mark Zeman
Dec 13, 2012, 2:00:55 PM12/13/12
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Wikipedia has a page on it as well. It's free and open source, and we can
still use it when we're huge.
-mz
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orangehrm
still use it when we're huge.
-mz
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orangehrm
Michael Copeland
Dec 13, 2012, 2:26:17 PM12/13/12
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Wow.. I like that... I did mention maybe using a CRM type system. I mean we have over 250 members now, so we do need something robust and easy to use.
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Dean Pannell
Dec 13, 2012, 2:48:55 PM12/13/12
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Yeah, pretty cool, but with a big asterisk: They use the same
free-core, proprietary add-ons model that SugarCRM uses.
That's ok if the free edition handles all of your needs and places no
onerous restrictions.
free-core, proprietary add-ons model that SugarCRM uses.
That's ok if the free edition handles all of your needs and places no
onerous restrictions.
Dean Pannell
Dec 13, 2012, 2:49:26 PM12/13/12
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Cool.
Thanks for keeping up the good fight!
Thanks for keeping up the good fight!
Tom Printy
Dec 13, 2012, 2:49:52 PM12/13/12
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Hack it! :)
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Darren Holland
Dec 13, 2012, 3:18:41 PM12/13/12
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It's written in php and runs on linux, we just need the A and the M. Do I hear a case for the use of Mark's server rack?
Mark Zeman
Dec 13, 2012, 3:31:12 PM12/13/12
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Can do. Dean's note on the Sugar model bothers me, though. I looked at
the site and saw the GPL license page, but I didn't see the proprietary add-on
stuff.
Where are you seeing this? I don't know if that's a deal-killer (we
might need only basic functionality at this point, and we can write our
own add-ons), but I'd sure like to know more about it.
-mz
Mark Zeman
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the site and saw the GPL license page, but I didn't see the proprietary add-on
stuff.
Where are you seeing this? I don't know if that's a deal-killer (we
might need only basic functionality at this point, and we can write our
own add-ons), but I'd sure like to know more about it.
-mz
Mark Zeman
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mze...@cerebralsoftware.com
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Dean Pannell
Dec 13, 2012, 4:05:16 PM12/13/12
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Mark --
I may be out of date on that.
Looks like they're pushing their SAAS stuff for the paid side now...
Which still leaves me wanting to be sure that the things we need are
in the free edition.
Dean
I may be out of date on that.
Looks like they're pushing their SAAS stuff for the paid side now...
Which still leaves me wanting to be sure that the things we need are
in the free edition.
Dean
Mark Zeman
Dec 13, 2012, 4:56:25 PM12/13/12
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I downloaded it and we'll take a look. It downloads from Source Forge,
but they force you to provide a name (I used Registration Mandatory?) and
email address. I don't know if that violates the GPL or not, but it's
unusual. Makes me think your instincts are right. I'll keep you posted.
-mz
but they force you to provide a name (I used Registration Mandatory?) and
email address. I don't know if that violates the GPL or not, but it's
unusual. Makes me think your instincts are right. I'll keep you posted.
-mz
Dean Pannell
Dec 13, 2012, 5:01:00 PM12/13/12
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Cool -- and no, it doesn't violate the GPL.
Mark Zeman
Dec 13, 2012, 5:09:05 PM12/13/12
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Here's a link to the demo site, and it should say to use admin/admin in
the upper left corner. I see skills tracking and stuff, but not a lot of
sample data at this point.
-mz
http://demo26.orangehrm.com/symfony/web/index.php/auth/login
the upper left corner. I see skills tracking and stuff, but not a lot of
sample data at this point.
-mz
http://demo26.orangehrm.com/symfony/web/index.php/auth/login
gelde...@aol.com
Dec 13, 2012, 9:47:35 PM12/13/12
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Count me in. DON
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gelde...@aol.com
Dec 13, 2012, 10:15:00 PM12/13/12
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Here is a skills list that I saw today .... something to start with .... expand with other skills we know our members have from the bio's that they can easily submit. DON
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Michael Copeland
Dec 13, 2012, 11:24:17 PM12/13/12
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Don't forget about networking skills and certifications, hardware skills & certs, mobile technology, robotics, it audit, and the list can go on and on. Listing certs would be a good thing.
The system should have user access levels as well. I'm thinking, public, member, paid public, paid member, and admin.
- Michael S. Copeland
I'm passionate about getting leads,customers,and clients for small businesses. Ask how I can help you, today.
gelde...@aol.com
Dec 14, 2012, 8:31:45 AM12/14/12
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Michael is correct. But most importantly list the five skills that you hope companies will buy first in terms that they can understand the value they will get. I have something like 16 certifications. Can't remember the last time I used my EVA skills .... a metric system to determine value during and after a project.
DON
DON
LF Gibson
Dec 17, 2012, 3:56:26 PM12/17/12
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What can be helpful is to add a category of Expertise in those Skills (Beginner to Advanced). I know talking to FutureLink last week, they said such a database would help with specific proprietary programming needs for their clients.
- LF
- LF
Mark Zeman
Dec 17, 2012, 8:02:01 PM12/17/12
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I think skill level is important, too. Even knowing a little of
something, combined with a stronger skill can make someone very valuable.
I also think that we need to constantly update the skill table - there are
new languages/hardware platforms/.../... coming out constantly, and I
think every new keyword needs to be added.
-mz
>>> - C/C++
>>> - C#
>>> - Java
>>> - J#
>>> - Visual Basic
>>> - VB.NET
>>> - Pascal, Object Pascal
>>> - SQL, PL/SQL
>>> - Tcl
>>> - Perl
>>> - Ruby
>>> - Unix Bourne Shell
>>> - ASM x86/ARM
>>>
>>>
>>> - Microsoft SQL Server
>>> - Oracle
>>> - Sybase
>>> - IBM Informix
>>> - MySQL
>>> - Microsoft Access
>>>
>>>
>>> - BEA WebLogic
>>> - Sun Java System
>>> - IBM WebSphere Application Server
>>> - Sybase Enterprise Application Server
>>> - Microsoft Transaction Server
>>> - Microsoft Message Queue Server
>>> - Microsoft Internet Information Services
>>> - Microsoft Commerce Server
>>> - Apache
>>> - Tomcat
>>> - JBoss
>>> - OMG CORBA
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something, combined with a stronger skill can make someone very valuable.
I also think that we need to constantly update the skill table - there are
new languages/hardware platforms/.../... coming out constantly, and I
think every new keyword needs to be added.
-mz
>>> - C#
>>> - Java
>>> - J#
>>> - Visual Basic
>>> - VB.NET
>>> - Pascal, Object Pascal
>>> - SQL, PL/SQL
>>> - Tcl
>>> - Perl
>>> - Ruby
>>> - Unix Bourne Shell
>>> - ASM x86/ARM
>>>
>>>
>>> - Microsoft SQL Server
>>> - Oracle
>>> - Sybase
>>> - IBM Informix
>>> - MySQL
>>> - Microsoft Access
>>>
>>>
>>> - BEA WebLogic
>>> - Sun Java System
>>> - IBM WebSphere Application Server
>>> - Sybase Enterprise Application Server
>>> - Microsoft Transaction Server
>>> - Microsoft Message Queue Server
>>> - Microsoft Internet Information Services
>>> - Microsoft Commerce Server
>>> - Apache
>>> - Tomcat
>>> - JBoss
>>> - OMG CORBA
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I had a meeting this morning with the Mayor and local manufactures in Elgin. The president of one of the companies said it would be helpful if ETC could connect them to workers skilled in technologies used in manufacturing, such as CAD, 3D printers, Graphic Design, Industrial Design, etc. Something to think about to help other local companies link to local talent.
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Tracie Pannell
Dec 21, 2012, 3:15:18 PM12/21/12
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That sounds like it would be helpful to our small IT businesses too! We are having a Holiday Hack-a-thon on Dec 29th to work on this HR database. Please feel free to come and give us some input!
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Tom Printy
Dec 21, 2012, 5:06:03 PM12/21/12
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Another Group I am on put this together.... Something is better than nothing....
http://www.iiscorp.biz/IT_Talent/OpenOppList.php
Since the new site will be in Wordpress it shouldn't be too bad to make a plugin that would display something similar.
-T
http://www.iiscorp.biz/IT_Talent/OpenOppList.php
Since the new site will be in Wordpress it shouldn't be too bad to make a plugin that would display something similar.
-T
Mary Beth Huffman
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Looks nice! Great start!
Don't right that you have to use language that those outside your industry understand.
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On Thu, Dec 13, 2012 at 4:09 PM, Mark Zeman <mze...@cerebralsoftware.com> wrote:
> Here's a link to the demo site, and it should say to use admin/admin in
You can edit a skill list. Not the greatest interface but it should
> Here's a link to the demo site, and it should say to use admin/admin in
be a one time setup.
Employees can have skills and years experience added.
You can make a custom report to list skills, but I don't see any
output besides HTML, so we'd be page-scraping or directly querying the
database to get anything out.
So the basic editing side is there, amidst a bunch of other stuff we won't use.
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We just solved the people side of getting access to the server last
night - now we need to get cabling between the 2nd floor and the basement
switch.
Meanwhile I'll get it back up and make sure it's ready as soon as we've
got a connection.
-mz
night - now we need to get cabling between the 2nd floor and the basement
switch.
Meanwhile I'll get it back up and make sure it's ready as soon as we've
got a connection.
-mz
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OK so where is the URL for the link? Thanks, DON
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