deductive/inductive reasoning diagrams

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Justin Falcone

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Mar 16, 2018, 12:29:24 PM3/16/18
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I'm not entirely clear what the inductive vs deductive reasoning diagrams are supposed to indicate. 

I _think_ its supposed to read as: 
- red arrow is the model
- dashed arrow is reality
- inside of the circle is premise
- outside of the circle is conclusion

Is that correct? I'm not sure that the diagrams are saying anything that's not better said in prose.

Zach Tellman

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Mar 16, 2018, 12:33:47 PM3/16/18
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Yeah, I'm not really sure about the diagrams either, I've asked several times in release notes whether anyone liked or disliked them and heard nothing, so I've just kind of kept them around.

The circle in the diagrams is supposed to mirror the circle in the earlier diagram: it's the model.  Outside the circle is the environment, the red line is where the "reasoning" is happening, and the dashed line is the dual of that reasoning which is being ignored.  As you said, though, I'm not sure it's saying anything that's not much clearer in prose.  

If anyone else was similarly confused by these diagrams, please chime in, you won't hurt my feelings.

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Manuel Uberti

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Mar 16, 2018, 4:24:42 PM3/16/18
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On Friday, 16 March 2018 17:33:47 UTC+1, Zach Tellman wrote:
The circle in the diagrams is supposed to mirror the circle in the earlier diagram: it's the model.  Outside the circle is the environment, the red line is where the "reasoning" is happening, and the dashed line is the dual of that reasoning which is being ignored.  As you said, though, I'm not sure it's saying anything that's not much clearer in prose.  

Honestly I didn't have any problems reading the diagrams, although it is true they're stating what the prose is saying. But I took them as a visual aid to better understand the reasoning. 

Zach Tellman

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Mar 16, 2018, 4:41:34 PM3/16/18
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Well, if they don't help the people who get them, and confuse everyone else, they're not really doing much.  Did they actually aid anyone's understanding?

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Manuel Uberti

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Mar 17, 2018, 12:56:02 AM3/17/18
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On Friday, 16 March 2018 21:41:34 UTC+1, Zach Tellman wrote:
Well, if they don't help the people who get them, and confuse everyone else, they're not really doing much.

That's true. Safe to leaving them out the. :)
 
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