[Elecraft] K3 and FSK RTTY

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Roger Stimson

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Feb 1, 2008, 11:40:08 AM2/1/08
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Has anyone setup WriteLog for FSK RTTY? I don't seem to be able to set up MMTTY/FSK for Rcv. The screen looks good. Nice XY Scope on FSK Xmit. Just a small white cluster on XY Scope on Recv and garbage decoding.
Roger K8RS K3 #280
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Greg - AB7R

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Feb 1, 2008, 11:50:37 AM2/1/08
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Hi Roger,

W0YK uses WL extensivley in FSK mode with the K3. No problems. I use N1MM also without
problems. Can you email a screen shot of what you are seeing on RX? Do you have the
LINE OUT from the K3 connected to your Line In on the computer?

If you turn on the dual peak filter HOLD DUAL PB button, you should see two distinct
filters. Also, if for FSK you have WL setup for 2125 Hz and 170 shift, HOLD PITCH on
the K3 and make sure you have 2125-170 selected.

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73,
Greg - AB7R
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K3#0009

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Dave G4AON

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Feb 1, 2008, 1:38:56 PM2/1/08
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I've run MMTTY on RTTY using FSK-D (directly keying the K3 via the
suggested single transistor in the MMTTY help file) and found it worked
fine. Are you sure you have the correct size 3.5mm jack plug in the line
out and have you set line out?

I've migrated from MMTTY to DM780 (part of Ham Radio Deluxe) as it does
so much more.

73 Dave, G4AON
K3/100 #80
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Simon Brown (HB9DRV)

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Feb 1, 2008, 1:43:26 PM2/1/08
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Quick note:

1) HRD/DM780 will have FSK support by the time of the Dayton release
http://www.ham-radio-deluxe.com/News/tabid/66/Default.aspx

2) For anyone thinking about a digital mode interface *please* look at the
usinterface.com Navigator, it is an excellent piece of hardware in every
respect, I just cannot criticise it at all.

http://www.usinterface.com/ Don't be put off by the website!

Simon Brown, HB9DRV

----- Original Message -----
From: "Dave G4AON" <elec...@astromag.co.uk>
>
> I've migrated from MMTTY to DM780 (part of Ham Radio Deluxe) as it does so
> much more.
>

Joe Subich, W4TV

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Feb 1, 2008, 4:51:22 PM2/1/08
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Since Simon is going to push another product here ...

Anyone looking at an all mode interface should consider the
microHAM microKEYER II. microKEYER II provides so many more
features - including true all mode support and the ability
to interface "foreign" accessories (SteppIR antennas,
amplifiers, etc.) to unsupported transceivers. The "Dayton
release" of microKEYER II is likely to include additional
options for enhanced station control.

73,

... Joe Subich, W4TV
microHAM America
http://www.microHAM-USA.com
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/microHAM
sup...@microham.com

Bill W5WVO

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Feb 1, 2008, 5:00:30 PM2/1/08
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Hi Simon,

What about the WSJT modes? When can we expect to see those?

Bill W5WVO

Brett Howard

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Feb 1, 2008, 7:51:23 PM2/1/08
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Ok so I just bought a GM4 mic shown at the link below:
http://www.heilsound.com/amateur/products/gm/index.htm

I've ordered the K3 but it's a ways out so I just wanna make sure I have all
the right things in place. From what I understand in order to run the Heil
dynamic mic with the K3 I want to set the mic input for High gain and no 8V
bias on pin 8.

Now I'd like to use the rear jack for the mic but I've had a bit of a hard
time figuring out the cable I need. I'm sure that I could probably find a 4
pin XLR to 1/4" headphone jack and then could get a mono 1/4" to 1/8"
adapter but that sure seems like a big wad of connector to have sitting on
the K3's jack all the time. (any thoughts?)

Finally I've been considering just dealing with the minor annoyance of
having the mic plugged into the front the cable I think I'd need is the CC-1
K. If I get this cable, that should work with my Kenwood TS-450Sat in the
mean time while I wait for the K3 right?

Also I've got the mic and I have the SM-1 suspended shock mount system
coming in the mail here soon so I'll be in the market for a boom... I've
been told that some people like the q-mic boom (http://www.q-mic.com) anyone
else have any other favorites?

Any other suggestions or pitfalls to avoid would be appreciated as well.

Brett Howard

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Feb 1, 2008, 8:05:02 PM2/1/08
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One other question... If the 8V bias gets accidentally switched on could
this damage the mic?

Don Wilhelm

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Feb 1, 2008, 8:23:23 PM2/1/08
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Brett,

Now, that depends on the mic, but the answer is YES. User, know your
microphone!!

73,
Don W3FPR

Joe Subich, W4TV

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Feb 1, 2008, 11:25:38 PM2/1/08
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> One other question... If the 8V bias gets accidentally
> switched on could this damage the mic?

Not in this case ... the GM/GM4 has a blocking capacitor built
into the mic. From the Heil web site;

> And for use on many of the recent Icom rigs (such as
> the IC-746/756 "Pro" series, and the IC-7800), a 1 ?F
> non-polarized DC blocking capacitor is installed.

73,

... Joe, W4TV

Simon Brown (HB9DRV)

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Feb 2, 2008, 4:14:13 AM2/2/08
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I'll restart this after Easter - I was bitten by the SSTV bug and am adding
SSTV and HamDRM / Digi-SSTV at the moment.

Then after SSTV it's RTTY FSK support (serial and Navigator), then back to
WSJT.

The reason for the delay - I decided that I will rewrite the 10,000 lines of
Fortran in WSJT as a C++ DLL, a daunting task for which I need all my
remaining wits :-)

Simon Brown, HB9DRV

----- Original Message -----
From: "Bill W5WVO" <w5...@cybermesa.net>
>
> What about the WSJT modes? When can we expect to see those?
>

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David Cutter

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Feb 2, 2008, 4:57:07 AM2/2/08
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Simon, when do you sleep? No, don't answer. Perhaps you're snowed in up
there in HB-land.

David
G3UNA

Simon Brown (HB9DRV)

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Feb 2, 2008, 5:01:28 AM2/2/08
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Snow - plenty, sleep - some, last QSO - October 2007!

Waiting for sunspots, then I'll be active :-)

Simon Brown, HB9DRV

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> Simon, when do you sleep? No, don't answer. Perhaps you're snowed in up
> there in HB-land.

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Bill W5WVO

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Feb 2, 2008, 1:17:25 PM2/2/08
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Simon, sorry to hear (as a person with high interest in WSJT and no interest
in SSTV) that WSJT has been delayed.

I had no idea Joe's code was written in FORTRAN. Interesting. Don't blame you
for wanting to get it into C++ as a DLL.

I guess there's not much hope of seeing this in the product until some time
later this year, then. Thanks for the honest update and info, Simon. Look
forward to buying the product when it supports WSJT!

Bill W5WVO

Gregg R. Lengling

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Feb 2, 2008, 1:20:56 PM2/2/08
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BUYING??? HRD has been and always will be free...it's been Simon's mantra
from day 1.

Gregg R. Lengling, W9DHI
Administrator
http://www.milwaukeehdtv.org
http://forums.ham-radio.ch/

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From: "Bill W5WVO" <w5...@cybermesa.net>

To: "Simon Brown (HB9DRV)" <si...@hb9drv.ch>; "Dave G4AON"
<elec...@astromag.co.uk>; <elec...@mailman.qth.net>
Sent: Saturday, February 02, 2008 12:17 PM
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 and FSK RTTY

> Simon, sorry to hear (as a person with high interest in WSJT and no
> interest in SSTV) that WSJT has been delayed.
>
> I had no idea Joe's code was written in FORTRAN. Interesting. Don't blame
> you for wanting to get it into C++ as a DLL.
>
> I guess there's not much hope of seeing this in the product until some
> time later this year, then. Thanks for the honest update and info, Simon.
> Look forward to buying the product when it supports WSJT!
>
> Bill W5WVO
>

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Bill W5WVO

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Feb 2, 2008, 2:34:48 PM2/2/08
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You're right, I knew that, just "forgot" in the moment -- bad choice of words.
:-) It just seems appropriate to speak of buying an outstanding
professional-grade software product. I'll certainly contribute, if that's
allowed. :-)

Bill W5VWO

Simon Brown (HB9DRV)

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Feb 2, 2008, 3:40:57 PM2/2/08
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Correct - free and users can drop a few coins in the bucket.

WSJT is very interesting but it'll take a while, I want the result to be
perfect.

FWIW I redesigned the HRD website, I am rotten at this sort of thing to used
DotNetNuke, website for HRD is www.ham-radio-deluxe.com .

Now back to the SSTV and some fine German wurst :-)

Simon Brown, HB9DRV

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From: "Bill W5WVO" <w5...@cybermesa.net>

> You're right, I knew that, just "forgot" in the moment -- bad choice of
> words. :-) It just seems appropriate to speak of buying an outstanding
> professional-grade software product. I'll certainly contribute, if that's
> allowed. :-)

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G4ILO

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Feb 3, 2008, 11:21:44 AM2/3/08
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Simon Brown (HB9DRV) wrote:
>
> 2) For anyone thinking about a digital mode interface *please* look at the
> usinterface.com Navigator, it is an excellent piece of hardware in every
> respect, I just cannot criticise it at all.
>

What does this allow you to do that you can't with a serial cable and a pair
of audio cables?

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Simon Brown (HB9DRV)

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Feb 3, 2008, 11:30:54 AM2/3/08
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1) an excellent soundcard which is FCC approved,

2) just one cable connects the box to your PC, it provides:

> Dual soundcard input
> Two serial ports (including CI-V)
> K1EL Winkeyer
> Input for paddles
> FSK via a UART
> Monitor the audio

I was *very* sceptical - until it arrived. It frees up cables and provides a
very clean solution with the one USB cable and a nicely made harness which
connects to the back of the K3. No more rats nests.

As someone else said to me - it's the last piece of equipment I would sell.

Simon Brown, HB9DRV

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From: "G4ILO" <julian...@gmail.com>

> What does this allow you to do that you can't with a serial cable and a
> pair
> of audio cables?

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G4ILO

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Feb 3, 2008, 12:28:47 PM2/3/08
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So not a lot, then, except it frees up your existing sound card. It sounds
pretty much the same as the RigExpert, which I sold a couple of weeks ago on
eBay. It was a nice piece of kit but it was useless under Linux, which I'm
the process of migrating to. I guess this box of yours is also
Windows-specific.

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Simon Brown (HB9DRV)

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Feb 3, 2008, 2:22:29 PM2/3/08
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Depends on drivers, good luck with Linux, I assume you have a lot of time to
waste.

Simon Brown, HB9DRV

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From: "G4ILO" <julian...@gmail.com>
>

> So not a lot, then, except it frees up your existing sound card. It sounds
> pretty much the same as the RigExpert, which I sold a couple of weeks ago
> on
> eBay. It was a nice piece of kit but it was useless under Linux, which I'm
> the process of migrating to. I guess this box of yours is also
> Windows-specific.
>

David Wilburn

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Feb 3, 2008, 9:21:27 PM2/3/08
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Its a shame you had to go there Simon. My experience with Linux and
Unix is, it just works. Completely different from my experience with
windows. Obviously biased, but well said.

http://www.vanwensveen.nl/rants/microsoft/IhateMS.html

Haven't heard of any Linux Botnets out there...

http://www.honeynet.org/papers/bots/

http://searchsecurity.techtarget.com/sDefinition/0,,sid14_gci1030284,00.html


http://www.windowsecurity.com/articles/Robot-Wars-How-Botnets-Work.html

Please direct all flames at me, and not at the list. I just shared
this one note for a contrast.

In the end, use the tool that works safely and securely to meet your
needs. What ever it may be.

Dave Wilburn
K4DGW
K2/100 - S/N 5982

VE3NFK

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Feb 4, 2008, 7:40:32 AM2/4/08
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Just an OT note - I am waiting for my K3 - been happy with Navigator for 10?
months...

AND have it working in Ubuntu Linux - including Simon's PSK31Deluxe under
Wine...

Cheers and 73

John VE3NFK

PS - HRD 'mostly' works too - just one error message that sometimes can be
ignored - other times stops the program

Simon Brown (HB9DRV) wrote:
>
> Depends on drivers, good luck with Linux, I assume you have a lot of time
> to
> waste.
>
> Simon Brown, HB9DRV
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "G4ILO" <julian...@gmail.com>
>>
>> So not a lot, then, except it frees up your existing sound card. It
>> sounds
>> pretty much the same as the RigExpert, which I sold a couple of weeks ago
>> on
>> eBay. It was a nice piece of kit but it was useless under Linux, which
>> I'm
>> the process of migrating to. I guess this box of yours is also
>> Windows-specific.
>>
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Simon Brown (HB9DRV)

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Feb 4, 2008, 8:15:28 AM2/4/08
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Ubuntu is a masterpiece of simplicity - I was amazed at how simple it is to
install.

Simon Brown, HB9DRV

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>
> Just an OT note - I am waiting for my K3 - been happy with Navigator for
> 10?
> months...
>
> AND have it working in Ubuntu Linux - including Simon's PSK31Deluxe under
> Wine...
>

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