Simple Eiffel - Work Since 12/11

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Liberty Lover

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Dec 14, 2025, 12:24:43 PM (2 days ago) Dec 14
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Hey all,

Lot's of work done since 12/11. 

See the announcement.


● Simple Eiffel Ecosystem Update - Dec 14, 2025

  In 3 days (Dec 11-14):

  - 6 new libraries: graph, math, mq, telemetry, scheduler, grpc
  - simple_lsp: v0.8.1 → v0.8.7 (DbC Heatmap refinements, testing standardization)
  - Ecosystem-wide refactors:
    - All 59 libraries standardized to TEST_APP + LIB_TESTS testing pattern
    - ISE time → simple_datetime migration (dogfooding)
    - Removed ISE uuid/logging dependencies from 4 libraries
  - Documentation: Ratified EIFFEL_EXPERT_BRIEFING.md v1.1, published Semantic Frame Naming pattern

  Metrics: 59 libraries, 3,456 classes, 123,040 features, 31% precondition coverage, 48% postcondition coverage.

Eric Bezault

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Dec 14, 2025, 7:25:04 PM (2 days ago) Dec 14
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On 14/12/2025 18:24, Liberty Lover wrote:
>   - Documentation: Ratified EIFFEL_EXPERT_BRIEFING.md v1.1,
I just read this document. I don't think that this document
will make Claude an Eiffel expert. Perhaps somewhere between
an average and a good Eiffel developer, but not an expert.

Will an AI fed with this document beat an human Eiffel expert?
I'm ready for the challenge :-)

I'm not talking about how fast we can produce code here.
I'm taking about how good the code produced is, understanding
why an program does not work as expected and how to fix it,
etc. etc. You know, when a good programmer is stuck and needs
some piece of advice from an expert.

And I'm not saying that it is not possible to come up with a
document which will help an AI become an Eiffel expert. But
the current document is lacking this expert knowledge.
Will Eiffel experts be willing to share their knowledge so
that an AI can replace them? Unless they are paid for that
or they are retired, I don't know why they would do that.
For what I'm concerned I would not do that without getting
paid in one way or another. People will pay to buy computers,
they will pay to be able to use an AI, but they will not pay
for the knowledge that the AI has been fed with. This is not
fair.

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Eric Bezault
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