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Certainly don't place a phone on the table, at least not outdoors (curious, would you do that at home? If so, you live somewhere really safe!). However, carrying a phone in the front pocket is actually OK in my opinion, as long as crowds aren't too thick and the pocket isn't too loose. Never had an issue doing so.
Do they really need constant access to their phones? I would be tempted to strongly suggest leaving the phones locked in a suitcase in the room. Could you carry the phones in your bag? Phones are not that big.
PS -- As someone who still uses a real camera, I had not thought about the camera angle. I can see that. Go for the front pocket but keep a hand on it in crowed situations like a bus or subway. Lots of posting here about front pocket losses. Best one was the gal who lost the money clip from her bra.
You've heard me tell before about how I witnessed a theft one morning when a young man seated outside left his phone on the table when he went inside to get a refill and some napkins - he briefly gave chase, gave up. 'Why did you leave the phone on the table?' 'My hands were dirty and I didn't want to get it on the phone.' Oh, well.
I'm with Balso. I don't care how safe the city seems, placing a phone on a table in a public place invites sticky fingers. Use the phone, then replace it in its regular storage place, be that a man bag or a pocket.
I just stay aware of my surroundings and, if I'm in a dicey area, I move my phone to a chest pocket in my vest or jacket and my wallet to my front pocket. If I'm in a very dicey area I keep my hand in my front pocket on top of my wallet.
Even though we are not currently traveling, my spouse and I have discussed what would be done with phones when do we (eventually) resume travel (or even resume getting out among dense crowds here at home, which sadly has become a place of pickpockets). My husband always puts his phone in his front shirt pocket, which in my eyes is not the safest place, especially for likely pickpocket situations.
For traveling, I think it would be best placed in the back (open) pocket of the ole Rick Steves' neck wallet, then worn under his shirt. Somewhat easy to pull out of the open pocket without having to unzip, and somewhat easy to pull up from his buttoned shirt, maybe just unbuttoning one or two buttons. Of course, I am SURE my spouse would consider that a pain when the time actually comes......but what is the bigger pain? losing the cell phone in another country or dealing with the neck wallet storage?
But, that said, in reality, when traveling, I know he would want his phone in his hand, ready to take photos at any point in time (other than when on public transport or moving thru dense crowds), as likely your sons would be.
One person above suggested having the phones left in the hotel safe, but if your group gets unexpectedly separated, the ability to communicate via text would be easier vs. trying to find the "lost" person(s). And, access to translation devices, maps, etc. on the phone would be comforting.
I am hyper-alert, probably paranoid about losing the phone, which would be a disaster. I clutch it tightly in one hand at all times while upright; sitting, it goes in a front pocket. I am looking at wrist loops that tether the phone to one's hand, to preserve security while giving my fingers a break.
I have the best solution. I simply do not use a cell phone, not in Europe. there is nothing important that I would do on a cell phone, that I can't do using the Internet on my pad back in my room. People today have an addiction to cell phones, but they are not really that necessary. The human race has existed for hundreds of thousand of year, maybe millions, without cell phones.
No thief could ever get the chance to steal my phone because it's never not in my hands and hold on I just got an instagram notification gotta check and see what that's all about and omg have you seen this tiktok it's hilarious and wait my ex won't stop texting me for some reason and gimme a minute that's my mom facetiming me anyways what were we talking about?
By the way, I'm generally a front pocket guy with a hand on the phone in higher risk places (crowded Berlin subway), but I'm not often in super high risk areas. I have a small Pacsafe backpack that I used for high-risk places when visiting Italy way back in 2015.
I keep it in easily accessible in my front pocket because I use it as a camera. My travel pants of choice are Eddie Bauer First Ascent with a zippered pocket below the main front pocket. This is where I'll keep it if I'm not needing fast access.
I guess the easiest solution for them may be to have them in their front pockets with their hands on them. When in riskier places, perhaps use a wrist cord or when sitting at a restaurant, look it around a belt loop. They will need a decent locked backpack to wear on trains.
Amazon has products that are used to wear one's phone around the neck. Other vendors do too. If your sons think it's not a fashionable look, then tell them they will be buying their next phone themselves!
Lulu, thank you for posting this question, and thank you to everyone who responded. Some VERY good ideas here that will also help my household.
Have a wonderful trip! How lucky your sons are to soon see Italy! VERY NICE gift of travel they will remember for life!
Scottevest makes polo shirts and vests with hidden pockets. They aren't cheap but might be worth considering.
Amazon sells clips that attach your phone to the inside of your pants pocket- less bulky / obvious than a holster.
"Why do you need one?" I don't need the phone, certainly not in traveling solo around Germany. Mainly I carry it just to placate the family. I much rather not carry it at all, can get along very well effectively in Germany without one. I carry it in the front pocket as I don't have any use for a day pack or back pack when out and about.
I do the same in Europe as I do at home under similar circumstances. Phones aren't big targets any longer. That includes leaving it on the table at times. Others might be right about that risk, but I just can't get into the habit of worrying about all the negative possibilities.
In the last 2 years in Europe I have left my phone in a taxi once and dropped it getting out of a taxi once and had to walk back two blocks to find it. I observed a few people seeing it stepping over it and going on. Oh, the taxi was a long way off before I could contact him, so he dropped it off at a restaurant I know and I picked it up later.
Which does bring to mind something related. If your phone is gone, so are the phone numbers so even if you can borrow a phone, you have no numbers to call. This happened when the taxi left with my phone. We overcame it, but now I carry phone numbers in my wallet. Just the essentials: hotels, guides, taxi service, massage establishment, airline, any one I know in town or country.
Fortunately, or unfortunately, some credit card companies will decline a charge if it is made overseas (at least for the first time). If I want the charge to go through, I have to get a text or email and then respond. I generally like the system because it has caught at least one instance where a thief was attempting to make charges using my credit card number (I still had the physical card). And before someone says, notify the bank before you go, the bank in question stopped taking notifications of foreign travel, presumably because it had the automated system of flagging "strange" charges and sending a notice.
As to the question of needing a phone at all, this one has been hashed over and over numerous times. If you proudly travel without one, congratulations. I find mine to be too helpful, and, to me, even necessary, to think about going without one.
"Excuse me, can I borrow your phone, download my cloud app, enter my password and search my files for the number and then call him back" vs, "hey he just dove off with my phone, would you be so kind to call this number please".
Robbing a phone is not the most common heist in Italy. Though Italy is in my opinion by far the nation in Europe where most hits and scams for tourists exist, robbing either a phone or something else is not the most common thing. In Italy I would be more careful about prices of anything anywhere, there's usually a different price for tourists and most things have no price tag! Even restaurants and cafes use lots of tricks for overpricing meals and drinks to tourists.
My phone is indispensible. It has my calendar with itinerary and notes on places I will visit. I can google and read up on attractions. I will use it as a translator and map. And I am ditching my "real" camera and will be using my phone exclusively for photos on our upcoming trip. BTW, I also use it for communication.
I am not so much worried about it being stolen. I am not sure stealing phones is worth it for a thief, but I could be wrong. Access is password or fingerprint protected. All the data is encrypted and backed up. A stolen phone can be tracked so they risk getting caught. Also, once the phone is reported stolen, the IMEI code can be blacklisted and the phone is locked making it almost unusuable.
The one thing that I worry about is dropping the damn thing while taking a photo from a high place or over water. For that problem, I found a phone case which has two small holes in one corner where I can loop a wrist strap. With the phone strapped to my wrist, my battle against gravity can also be a deterrent to thieves.
That phone case and wrist strap have been on my phone since I bought it 3 years ago and I haven't been to Europe in 7. I bought that particular phone specifically because I was impressed with the phone camera and have stopped using a "real" camera since that time. I noticed right away that the ergonomics of handling the phone was not the same as an ordinary camera and I found myself almost dropping the phone several times. So the wrist strap was the solution I came up with.
For decades, I continued to use a fanny pack to hold my wallet, phone and keys even when it was unfashionable. I was finally shamed by my sons to stop using it. For a while I used a small shoulder bag or, for a better description, a man purse. And that's what I used back in our 2015 Italy trip. But I always found it a bit unwieldy. I always had to keep one hand on the shoulder bag. With a fanny pack cinched up on my waist, it feels more secure to me and both hands are free.
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