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Spandna Chokhani

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Feb 26, 2012, 6:02:52 PM2/26/12
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Holla!
As discussed in class, here is the story I mentioned and one more,
both by writers I admire. I counted lots of adverbs in their work but
it didn't hinder the flow for me.

Snow, Glass, Apples by Neil Gaiman (warning: it is VERY dark. Quite
graphic as well)
http://www.holycow.com/dreaming/stories/snow-glass-apples/

Queen of Atlantis by Sarah Rees Brennan
http://subterraneanpress.com/index.php/magazine/summer-2011/fiction-queen-of-atlantis-by-sarah-rees-brennan/

Comments?

supriya sharma

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Mar 1, 2012, 6:15:12 AM3/1/12
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Even as a child I thought Snow White was rather weird with snow-white skin and ruby red lips. I mean would it not be disturbing to be around someone who looked like that. But that the prince showed necrophilic tendencies (even in the original) I totally missed! I mean why would anyone kiss a girl in a coffin, huh? creepy. 
 
I thoroughly enjoyed reading these stories. Thank you. Please share more such.
 
P.S. I have just read them once. On the second reading I will take care to note details that you are referring to.  

Abha Iyengar

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Mar 1, 2012, 6:39:19 AM3/1/12
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Dear Spandna, 
Could you be kind enough to highlight the adverbs which you have already counted!
Though I will say that it really does not matter about the adverbs, it is a rule which you must know but if the story works with a few more than deemed necessary, then fine. You just have to be 'careful'. Novice writers use them a lot to describe actions lovingly, which they think they use beautifully, letting their words fall gently, sure that the reader will read wondrously and look upon the work done longingly, but fail really miserably...:) 
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Ankit

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Mar 1, 2012, 7:40:15 AM3/1/12
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I know this discussion is supposed to be about adverbs, but as I was
browsing through, I came across this article about using adjectives.
Here the author is talking about writing about food, but even in other
contexts I'm sure it works just as well.

http://foodblogalliance.com/2009/06/better-food-writing-adjectives.php

On Mar 1, 4:39 pm, Abha Iyengar <abhaiyen...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Dear Spandna,
> Could you be kind enough to highlight the adverbs which you have already
> counted!
> Though I will say that it really does not matter about the adverbs, it is a
> rule which you must know but if the story works with a few more than deemed
> necessary, then fine. You just have to be 'careful'. Novice writers use
> them a lot to describe actions lovingly, which they think they use
> beautifully, letting their words fall gently, sure that the reader will
> read wondrously and look upon the work done longingly, but fail really
> miserably...:)
> A
>
>
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> On Thu, Mar 1, 2012 at 4:45 PM, supriya sharma <supriya...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Even as a child I thought Snow White was rather weird with snow-white skin
> > and ruby red lips. I mean would it not be disturbing to be around someone
> > who looked like that. But that the prince showed necrophilic tendencies
> > (even in the original) I totally missed! I mean why would anyone kiss a
> > girl in a coffin, huh? creepy.
>
> > I thoroughly enjoyed reading these stories. Thank you. Please share more
> > such.
>
> > P.S. I have just read them once. On the second reading I will take care to
> > note details that you are referring to.
>
> > On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 4:32 AM, Spandna Chokhani <chimera.w...@gmail.com>wrote:
>
> >> Holla!
> >> As discussed in class, here is the story I mentioned and one more,
> >> both by writers I admire. I counted lots of adverbs in their work but
> >> it didn't hinder the flow for me.
>
> >> Snow, Glass, Apples by Neil Gaiman (warning: it is VERY dark. Quite
> >> graphic as well)
> >>http://www.holycow.com/dreaming/stories/snow-glass-apples/
>
> >> Queen of Atlantis by Sarah Rees Brennan
>
> >>http://subterraneanpress.com/index.php/magazine/summer-2011/fiction-q...
>
> >> Comments?
>
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> *
> *
> Best Wishes,
> Abha Iyengarwww.abhaiyengar.comhttps://www.facebook.com/abha.iyengarhttps://twitter.com/#!/abhaiyengar
>
> "Yearnings" my poetry collection available  at:http://www.flipkart.com/books/9380112176 and
> serenewoods.com/book_details.php?id=419
> " Flash Bites" my flash fiction collection:http://www.smashwords.com/books/view/59782
>
> *"I am not cruel, only truthful --
> The eye of a little god, four-cornered."* Sylvia Plath, "Mirror"

Chimera

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Mar 1, 2012, 11:41:12 AM3/1/12
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@Supriya: I know, right? Sleeping Beauty gives me the same vibes. Actually, when you look at it most fairy tales are really screwed. Beauty and the Beast? Being controlled and confined? Must be true love. Red Riding Hood? Totally perpetuates victim blaming rape myths. See:      
http://listverse.com/2009/01/06/9-gruesome-fairy-tale-origins/

But that's why I love fairy tale retellings; there's so much potential there. Sometime back, I was working on a version of The Little Mermaid in which the mermaid was a masochist. Inspiration:

"Every step she took was as the witch had said it would be, she felt as if treading upon the points of needles or sharp knives; but she bore it willingly, and stepped as lightly by the prince’s side as a soap-bubble, so that he and all who saw her wondered at her graceful-swaying movements.
She climbed with the prince to the tops of high mountains; and although her tender feet bled so that even her steps were marked, she only laughed, and followed him till they could see the clouds beneath them looking like a flock of birds travelling to distant lands."
http://hca.gilead.org.il/li_merma.html

Fun stuff!

@Abha: Hehe, I think I understand it now. More a matter of instinct, I suppose. Attaching the two stories, anyway.

@Ankit: Good point! :)
Snow, Glass, Apples adverbs.docx
Queen of Atlantis adverbs.docx

Spandna Chokhani

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Mar 1, 2012, 11:44:51 AM3/1/12
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Uh the above post was by me, never mind 'Chimera'.

Ankit

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Mar 3, 2012, 9:57:01 AM3/3/12
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Since we are discussing fairytales here. Have a look at these videos,
a recording of a performance, the Princes here are talking about their
wives to be. I'm sure you will recognise the description -
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LFgMowOwek0

And once they have had the respective women as their wives, look at
them describe their mistresses, recognise them too?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UAPJTik5mSo&feature=watch_response_rev

Oh, and did some one mention "Little" red riding hood?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8NAuqQ-h7vA


supriya sharma

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Mar 8, 2012, 7:32:48 AM3/8/12
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Spandna Chokhani

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Mar 8, 2012, 12:01:21 PM3/8/12
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@Supriya: Wow, that's exciting. I so want to read them.

supriya sharma

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Mar 9, 2012, 1:42:43 AM3/9/12
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:)  Did you read The Turnip Princess? not very different from the existing disturbing ones...

Abha Iyengar

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Mar 9, 2012, 2:31:24 AM3/9/12
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Glad to know about this. Keep reading, Supriya and Spandna and others and let me know which ones I should (really) read?
Thanks,
Abha

"Yearnings" my poetry collection available  at:
http://www.flipkart.com/books/9380112176  and
serenewoods.com/book_details.php?id=419
" Flash Bites" my flash fiction collection: http://www.smashwords.com/books/view/59782

"I am not cruel, only truthful --
The eye of a little god, four-cornered." Sylvia Plath, "Mirror"

supriya sharma

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Apr 11, 2012, 7:26:02 AM4/11/12
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Spandna Chokhani

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Apr 14, 2012, 4:12:01 AM4/14/12
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@Supriya: Heh, that was amusing. I always thought sewing the wolf's
tummy with stones inside was a bit too harsh. ;-)

supriya sharma

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Apr 15, 2012, 6:55:58 AM4/15/12
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:)

ankit govil

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Apr 21, 2012, 4:24:26 AM4/21/12
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About fairytale, this recently came to my attention
the show is all about different takes on fairytale stories and characters
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