Something different about the official forum today?

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funkitron

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Jun 14, 2009, 9:54:17 PM6/14/09
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It seems that when i navigate to 'forum.efi-x.com' of late and am not
yet logged in, none of the boards are visible. Maybe they're trying to
keep potential customers from seeing their sad display of poor
customer service? It certainly wasn't like this before. Interesting,
no?

redw...@shaw.ca

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Jun 15, 2009, 2:33:12 AM6/15/09
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Their customer service sucks because they're still making crap loads
of cash. When the money slows down, they will address poor service.
That won't happen till the cash slows down, they don't need to worry
about it. McLovin

Michel

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Jun 15, 2009, 3:26:12 AM6/15/09
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That would be fun to know what's the highest EFix serial number
sold ... we could make an estimate on how much money they made.

Mine is not going to help, I'm an early victim, only # 318. :-)

M

Mike

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Jun 15, 2009, 5:40:08 AM6/15/09
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They can't run a proper forum with spam blocking features, so they
just lock down the forums so no one can use them without registering.
Wrong solution, since the spammers already have accounts.

redw...@shaw.ca

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Jun 15, 2009, 6:18:54 AM6/15/09
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I don't get it Batman, what are they trying to hide? McLovin

makalu

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Jun 15, 2009, 6:57:58 AM6/15/09
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Let me guess, that's because people found out that on google cache
their deleted threads could still be retreived.

Rick - PoisonApple666

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Jun 15, 2009, 7:50:37 AM6/15/09
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redwhite -

Not trying to argue, but just as a thought, I'm not certain they are
making a ton of cash. They claim about 3000 registered users. Even
if 1/2 of them have two modules, that would put approximately 4500 in
circulation. Even if we take the latest pricing at about $200 per
copy that would translate to $900,000, I believe. Take out the
initial tooling, production and distribution costs and that may not
leave alot. It may be why they are having problems...I'm sure they
had upfront venture cash, but that may be gone as well. I don't know
what attending a trade show costs, but it can't be inexpensive. Maybe
they simply can't pay the coders to fix the problems. Might be one of
the reasons we wait so long for results. Just a thought.

Michel Barthelemy

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Jun 15, 2009, 11:39:52 AM6/15/09
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Bottom line, I don't really care much about the money they make ..
provided that the thing I bought works the way it's supposed to ...

My concern is mostly around the following :

1. There is no technically savvy individual from EFIX that writes on
the forums, not a developer, not a product manager, whatsoever, that's
a first to my knowledge. Usually you alays find one of the lead guru
guys throwing his 2 cetns now and then, especially when things tend to
heat up ... like now. As an example, very early on, I had an argument
with one of them (I don't recall which one but the posts should still
be in there somewhere) that my motherboard, a GA-EP45T-EXTREME, was
pretty much the same one than a GA-EP45-EXTREME. Onse uses DDR3, the
other DDR2. Now comes the interesting part : this guy from EFIX tells
me that they are totally different, that the "T" model will NEVER be
supported and gives me so much shit about it .... To make a long story
short, my board works flawlessly, and less than a week later, it
magically appeared on the HCL .... :-)

2. Their all organization is terribly inefficient. Come on, how long
does it takes to fix a server ? 1 day ? 1 week maybe .. but not 6
months .... and don't give me that crap about "Bad guys are bothering
our poor server" thing .... I am responsible for dozens of servers,
most of them with public IP's .... that doesn't float.

3. The very concept (or lack thereof) of the update system is flawed.
No downgrade capability, no user confirmation before actually
proceeding with the update .... my 12 yrs old nephew writes better
user interfaces ... :-) Which prompts the only real question here :
How much control do they actually have on the all thing ? Why the
paranoid need for secrecy around the "firmware" ? (OK, that's 2
questions :-)

Any ideas ?

M

makalu

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Jun 15, 2009, 5:11:05 PM6/15/09
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I never understood this security stuff. I mean if you're concerned
about someone stealing and disassembling your firmware (and they
certainly are, maybe beacuse we'd find GPL code in it?) you'd encrypt
the file, end of story. If you're bothered by DDOS attacks on the
server, there are counter measures that do not shut down the server. I
asked a few times but I never got a honest answer why they have this
akward system for updating while almost every single one of us could
put together a more reliable one.

The least you could do is load the firmware to RAM, check the CRC, ask
the user if i't ok (like you proposed) and *then* flash it. That can't
be so hard, can it?

PTMixer

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Jun 15, 2009, 5:21:56 PM6/15/09
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Is the 'no guest' policy of the EFiX board now going to prevent Google
from reading it and from caching (cacheing?) it?

Will site:forum.efix.com search terms still search the forum?

uvajeD

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Jun 15, 2009, 5:28:07 PM6/15/09
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It wouldn't be that hard to steal the firmware. If you wanted to do
it, you could connect a logic analyser to the USB pins between the
main board and the EFIX module. Then do an update and capture all of
the data. Unless they use strong encryption within the EFIX module,
it wouldn't take a hacker long to decode the whole thing. Heck, you
could tie a packet sniffer on your network and you could correlate the
whole shootin' match together. It's ironic that ASEM's paranoia will
probably invite hackers by offering them a challenge.

Michel

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Jun 19, 2009, 1:59:49 AM6/19/09
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Hey guys,

Anything new on the Efi-X bug front ?

It seems that most of the topics relevant to the problems are either
LOCKED or deleted on their support board ...;

I'm beginning to feel more and more concernd about the future of this
all venture and ... I'm catching myself looking more and more at that
MacPro Apple store page .....

Cheers,

M

Rick - PoisonApple666

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Jun 19, 2009, 7:13:26 AM6/19/09
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I've been cruising the forums a little each day, and it doesn't seem
like anything new is on the horizon. Interestingly enough, there is a
portion of the i7 build thread that deals with an ancillary external
cable for updating an eFix unit....the same type of setup though for a
different purpose as depicted in hardware mods...that got dear little
edison's phanboi undies in a bundle last week, so much so, that he got
all worked up and locked it. But even 'He who must not be blamed'
chimed in, if I remember correctly, about some cabling data given out
by MM Services. I could be wrong, but that may be the first that we
have heard from HWMNBB in a little while.


redw...@shaw.ca

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Jun 20, 2009, 1:27:27 AM6/20/09
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It is obvious, they use, "Dilbert" as their business model.

Michel Barthelemy

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Jun 20, 2009, 1:46:17 AM6/20/09
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Yeah, except Dilbert is at least funny :-)
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