Horses Killed For Novelty

GetLost

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Jul 4, 2005, 10:29:13 PM7/4/05

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Ten horses dead because the Calgary Stampede Association wants to promote
the Calgary Stampede by herding horses through a busy metropolis..."just
like they did in the old days". What a bunch of shit for brains idiots that
thought this a good idea.

The SPCA should charge whoever was in charge of this event and all
participants and fine them heavily. Taking wild horses in a large herd
through a busy and noisy city is the most idiotic thing anyone could
do....The results prove the stupidity of this. What heritage practice were
they emulating? In the days of herding animals to town they were "towns" not
large noisey citys.

Allan

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Jul 4, 2005, 11:07:53 PM7/4/05

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>
> Rodeos need to go the way of the dinosaur.

i believe that dinosaur would be you

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alicecoop...@yahoo.com

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Jul 4, 2005, 11:27:38 PM7/4/05

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who gives a fat fock about horses
ya foctard
horsemeat rules
LMFAO
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Mr. Frederick

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Jul 5, 2005, 12:08:26 AM7/5/05

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"GetLost" <Get...@Telus.net> wrote in message
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Any of a number of things could have spooked the horses. They had already
covered just about 200 kilometres safely. Speculation has it a train
spooked them. I regularly see idiots that honk at people riding horses,
drive too close, throw stuff, etc. Bottom line, you could haul them in
trailers, and people protest, or you can herd them.

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GetLost

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Jul 5, 2005, 12:14:15 AM7/5/05

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<alicecoop...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> On Mon, 04 Jul 2005 22:29:13 GMT, "GetLost" <Get...@Telus.net> wrote:

> horsemeat rules

You should know...you've had several mouthfuls of horse meat haven't
you...That's why you're always walking around with your jaw hanging down
with your buck teeth sticking out.

GetLost

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Jul 5, 2005, 12:17:52 AM7/5/05

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"Mr. Frederick" <fped...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> Any of a number of things could have spooked the horses. They had already
> covered just about 200 kilometres safely. Speculation has it a train
> spooked them. I regularly see idiots that honk at people riding horses,
> drive too close, throw stuff, etc. Bottom line, you could haul them in
> trailers, and people protest, or you can herd them.
>

That's right any number of things could spook them so why do it?

They had been herded 190 km's in the country and 10 in the
city......duhhhh!!!
Trailers is the way they got them to the Stampede killing grounds in
previous years now they can't wait to kill them before they get
there....Calgarians are redneck idiots with no brains like their hero Ralph
Klein.

Leon Trollski

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Jul 5, 2005, 12:20:46 AM7/5/05

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Par for your course, jerk.

PLONK

Jerry

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Jul 5, 2005, 12:27:25 AM7/5/05

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Well, there was that place in Calgary who was selling horse meat in place of
Beef awhile back =)

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Marc Vunak

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Jul 5, 2005, 12:40:21 AM7/5/05

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"Manny" <manny...@telus.net> wrote in message
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> Mr. Frederick <fped...@hotmail.com> wrote in message:
> news:<Uckye.6724$mN.7...@news1.mts.net>

>> Bottom line, you could haul them in
>> trailers, and people protest, or you can herd them.
>>

> Haul them in trailers WHERE? or herd them WHERE?
>
> It was a pointless exercise in the first place, they weren't going
> anywhere
> and it was just a stunt. No excuses. They shouldn't have done it in the
> first place. What were they expecting in the city? Peace and quiet like
> out
> on the range?

The horses were unbroken and were being moved to the Calgary Stampede from
the Stampede Ranch in SE Alberta. So that is to where. They were being
herded to commemorate the centennial of Alberta and though I am sure that
the organizers did try to plan for every possible situation, a train
spooking the horses would be unexpected.

I would think that being unbroken horses, they make better bucking broncos
than other horses.

Here is the CBC story:
http://www.cbc.ca/story/canada/national/2005/07/04/stampede-050704.html

alicecoop...@yahoo.com

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Jul 5, 2005, 12:57:01 AM7/5/05

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lmfao
look at this immigrant
i love watching eastern foctards pay a buck a liter for gas
make us rich
alberta the richest province in CANADA

h
u

Irv Finkleman

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Jul 5, 2005, 1:06:04 AM7/5/05

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Jerry wrote:
>
> Well, there was that place in Calgary who was selling horse meat in place of
> Beef awhile back =)
>

> >

They used to sell horseburgers at the Stampede way back when.

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MS

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Jul 5, 2005, 1:30:12 AM7/5/05

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GetLost wrote:
> Ten horses dead because the Calgary Stampede Association wants to promote
> the Calgary Stampede by herding horses through a busy metropolis..."just
> like they did in the old days". What a bunch of shit for brains idiots that
> thought this a good idea.

Sounds like the same morons who thought putting grizzly bears
and wolves in the same enclosure in North Vancouver would be a
good idea. Not only that, but then expecting them to share the
raw meat that was thrown in said enclosure. Guess what
happened? One swipe from grizzly bear defending food = one
headless wolf. Bunch of dummies there at Grouse Mtn. (though I
have to admit, that wolf was pretty dumb, too)!

Greg Carr

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Jul 5, 2005, 1:52:51 AM7/5/05

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On Mon, 4 Jul 2005 21:20:45 -0400, King Klein of Cowtown
<m...@oil.bible> wrote:

> <alicecoop...@yahoo.com> wrote in message:
>news:<1bmjc1l26i6l49dl4...@4ax.com>

>> lmfao
>> look at this immigrant
>> i love watching eastern foctards pay a buck a liter for gas
>> make us rich
>> alberta the richest province in CANADA
>>

>Not by a long shot, even Toronto's GDP is almost double Hickshitberta's.
>
>You stupid fucking cowboys are drinking too much, you're hallucinating.

Alberta has the highest employment rate in Canada, an extra paid
holiday (Heritage Day In Febuary). The lowest gas prices and no
provincial sales tax. They have less crime than TO.

Greg Carr

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Jul 5, 2005, 1:54:15 AM7/5/05

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They are also running an 8 billion dollar surplus while Ontario
whether NDP, Liberal or Tory runs defecits year after year.

Mr. Frederick

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Jul 5, 2005, 2:07:31 AM7/5/05

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"Manny" <manny...@telus.net> wrote in message
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> Mr. Frederick <fped...@hotmail.com> wrote in message:
> news:<Uckye.6724$mN.7...@news1.mts.net>

> > Bottom line, you could haul them in
> > trailers, and people protest, or you can herd them.
> >

> Haul them in trailers WHERE? or herd them WHERE?
>
> It was a pointless exercise in the first place, they weren't going
anywhere
> and it was just a stunt. No excuses. They shouldn't have done it in the
> first place. What were they expecting in the city? Peace and quiet like
out
> on the range?

I have no idea what you just said. They had horses at point A. They needed
them at point B. How would you move them? Canada Post? They could have
used horse trailers, but there are people that protest that as well. They
chose to herd them. We all know what happened. In retrospect it was not
the wisest decision. I have no idea how many other ways you think there are
to move horses.

Marc Vunak

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Jul 5, 2005, 2:39:39 AM7/5/05

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Well don't get too much exercise jumping to conclusion, wouldn't want that
smog alert and humidity to kill ya.

"King Klein of Cowtown" <m...@oil.bible> wrote in message
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> Marc Vunak <mvu...@shaw.ca> wrote in message:
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>> The horses were unbroken and were being moved to the Calgary Stampede
>> from
>> the Stampede Ranch in SE Alberta. So that is to where. They were being
>> herded to commemorate the centennial of Alberta and though I am sure that
>> the organizers did try to plan for every possible situation, a train
>> spooking the horses would be unexpected.
>>
>> I would think that being unbroken horses, they make better bucking
>> broncos
>> than other horses.
>>
>>
>

> Is that what you hick's call "culture"?
>
>
> Bwwwaaaaahhhhhhhaaaaaaa!!!! ROTFLMAO!!!!!!

gap...@vcn.bc.ca

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Jul 5, 2005, 4:01:56 AM7/5/05

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Irv Finkleman <fin...@shaw.ca> wrote:
IF> > Well, there was that place in Calgary who was selling horse meat in plac
IF> > Beef awhile back =)

IF> They used to sell horseburgers at the Stampede way back when.

What is inherently wrong with horsemeat, as compared with cowmeat?

I'd love to host a big political shindig BBQ, and first marinate horsemeat
steaks all day, so they're sweet, tender, and juicy, then BBQ and serve them to
the VIPs, and after collecting all the compliments ("best steak I've had in a
loooong time!" reveal to all & sundry that it was HORSE!!!

(maybe I'll hold the event in someone ELSE's backyard, so THEY get to clean the
puke up afterwards! *G*)

Because I care,

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Jul 5, 2005, 4:01:54 AM7/5/05

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"Mr. Frederick" <fped...@hotmail.com> wrote:
"F> > large noisey citys.
"F> >
"F> Any of a number of things could have spooked the horses. They had already
"F> covered just about 200 kilometres safely. Speculation has it a train
"F> spooked them. I regularly see idiots that honk at people riding horses,
"F> drive too close, throw stuff, etc. Bottom line, you could haul them in
"F> trailers, and people protest, or you can herd them.

Yeah, people are idiots!

Why didn't they talk to the police about a parade permit type thing, and close
off the herd route to traffic for the duration of the herd movement?

gap...@vcn.bc.ca

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Jul 5, 2005, 4:01:57 AM7/5/05

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King Klein of Cowtown <m...@oil.bible> wrote:
KC> You stupid fucking cowboys are drinking too much, you're hallucinating.

It's all that tainted beef they've ingested!

schizophrenia burgers for all! YUM!!!

gap...@vcn.bc.ca

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Jul 5, 2005, 4:01:58 AM7/5/05

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MS <mik...@iname.com> wrote:
M> Sounds like the same morons who thought putting grizzly bears
M> and wolves in the same enclosure in North Vancouver would be a
M> good idea. Not only that, but then expecting them to share the
M> raw meat that was thrown in said enclosure. Guess what
M> happened? One swipe from grizzly bear defending food = one
M> headless wolf. Bunch of dummies there at Grouse Mtn. (though I
M> have to admit, that wolf was pretty dumb, too)!

B-b-b-but it was reasonable, wasn't it?
After all, wouldn't it have worked fine in the wild natural?

Or, maybe, in the wild, the wolf would've hit that hunk of meat running, and
been hundreds of metres away before Gentle Ben realized what happened? (but
what happened in N.Van? Oh, yeah, the FENCE!!! (whoops!))

gap...@vcn.bc.ca

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Jul 5, 2005, 4:01:55 AM7/5/05

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Manny <manny...@telus.net> wrote:
M> Mr. Frederick <fped...@hotmail.com> wrote in message:
M> news:<Uckye.6724$mN.7...@news1.mts.net>
M> > Bottom line, you could haul them in
M> > trailers, and people protest, or you can herd them.
M> >
M> Haul them in trailers WHERE? or herd them WHERE?
M>
M> It was a pointless exercise in the first place, they weren't going anywher
M> and it was just a stunt. No excuses. They shouldn't have done it in the
M> first place. What were they expecting in the city? Peace and quiet like o
M> on the range?

Okay, if it was "just a stunt" then, yeah, it was a retarded idea, but if it
was a legitimate need to efficiently move a group of horses, it turned out to
be a mistake (whoops!)

gap...@vcn.bc.ca

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Greg Carr <gca...@shaw.ca> wrote:
> Alberta has the highest employment rate in Canada, an extra paid
> holiday (Heritage Day In Febuary). The lowest gas prices and no
> provincial sales tax. They have less crime than TO.

Which all sounds great until you realize the price to pay is living in. . .

ALBERTA!!!

and having ALBERTANS as your closest neighbours!

*LOL*

gap...@vcn.bc.ca

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"Top Poster" <The_Original_Top_Poster@top_poster.kalm> wrote:
"P> Rodeos need to go the way of the dinosaur.

I forget who it was, but one stand-up comedian had a good comment on the
practice:

"Look, I'm not against eating meat -- EAT the animals, but don't HUMILIATE them
first!"

TopPoster

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Jul 5, 2005, 4:43:10 AM7/5/05

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You watch him kato?

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Kato has watched to many cowboy movies

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kato lives in Edmonton when the wind blows from the east you get all the
pollution from refinery row, from the west we get sour gas pollution, the
north forest fires, from south we get US pollution, and that is all in a
good day

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kato cuts grass for a living

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MS

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Top Poster wrote:
> <gap...@vcn.bc.ca> wrote in message news:dad0nn$fjo$1...@vcn.bc.ca...
>
>>Greg Carr <gca...@shaw.ca> wrote:
>>
>>>Alberta has the highest employment rate in Canada, an extra paid
>>>holiday (Heritage Day In Febuary). The lowest gas prices and no
>>>provincial sales tax. They have less crime than TO.
>>
>>Which all sounds great until you realize the price to pay is living in. .
>>.
>>
>>ALBERTA!!!
>>
>>and having ALBERTANS as your closest neighbours!
>>
>>*LOL*
>
>
> Yes, you just HAVE to hate the hardworking, industrious and honest
> people known as Albertans.

Nothing wrong with the people from Alsaskitoba at all. Most are
very friendly and hardworking and honest. It's just that the
weather sucks and there's little in the way of scenery (except
for Alberta's limited share of the Rocky Mountains and a few
other sites like the Badlands).

Click through these photos:

http://www.britishcolumbia.com/photogallery/index.asp?catID=23

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Jul 5, 2005, 12:58:08 PM7/5/05

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"Top Poster" <The_Original_Top_Poster@top_poster.kalm> wrote:
"P> Gimme the wide open spaces and air that a man can breathe without a
"P> smog mask, any day.

It'd smell much better if you closed your legs so nobody has to smell your last
victim!

gap...@vcn.bc.ca

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Jul 5, 2005, 1:36:28 PM7/5/05

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"Top Poster" <The_Original_Top_Poster@top_poster.kalm> wrote:
"P> > Which all sounds great until you realize the price to pay is living in.
"P> > .
"P> >
"P> > ALBERTA!!!
"P> >
"P> > and having ALBERTANS as your closest neighbours!
"P> >
"P> > *LOL*
"P>
"P> Yes, you just HAVE to hate the hardworking, industrious and honest
"P> people known as Albertans.

Someone didn't take his recognize-sarcasm pill today!

"P> It's much easier to line up for the dole every week.

Is that what you do in Alberta?
Here in BC they get a deposit monthly!

Leon Trollski

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"King Klein of Cowtown" <m...@oil.bible> wrote in message
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> Marc Vunak <mvu...@shaw.ca> wrote in message:
> news:<VFkye.1865401$Xk.1863952@pd7tw3no>
> > The horses were unbroken and were being moved to the Calgary Stampede
from
> > the Stampede Ranch in SE Alberta. So that is to where. They were being
> > herded to commemorate the centennial of Alberta and though I am sure
that
> > the organizers did try to plan for every possible situation, a train
> > spooking the horses would be unexpected.
> >
> > I would think that being unbroken horses, they make better bucking
broncos
> > than other horses.
> >
> >
>
> Is that what you hick's call "culture"?
>
>
> Bwwwaaaaahhhhhhhaaaaaaa!!!! ROTFLMAO!!!!!!

No, what I call 'culture' is the fact we have more university graduates,
more highspeed iternet access, higher literacy scores, the best scholastic
test results in the world, or close to the best depending on the subject,
and a host of other things in Calgary that you, Toronto guy, don't have, and
never will.

Tremendous Wang

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Jul 6, 2005, 3:41:06 AM7/6/05

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In article <FAHye.108598$9A2.98250@edtnps89>,
The_Original_Top_Poster@top_poster.kalm says...

neophyte means beginner, or novice. You must've read or heard the word used in
a perjorative context and added it to your lexicon of insulting words without
knowing the definition.

TopPoster

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Jul 6, 2005, 5:59:36 AM7/6/05

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He is an American with an army education

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Jul 6, 2005, 6:06:29 PM7/6/05

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You lie allot kato

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You have a big mouth for a ten year old, now we can see why the army punted
you kato

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Leon Trollski

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Jul 7, 2005, 3:17:52 AM7/7/05

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"Tremendous Wang" <treme...@wang.com> wrote in message
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> In article <FAHye.108598$9A2.98250@edtnps89>,

> neophyte means beginner, or novice. You must've read or heard the word
used in
> a perjorative context and added it to your lexicon of insulting words
without
> knowing the definition.
>
>

"Perjorative" isn't even in my dictionary, but it likely has "perjury" as a
root word and therefore is an adjective useage. You probably meant to say
"derogatory context", but were itching to use "perjorative" somewhere
someplace. You probably picked it up from your mincing, latté-sipping
metrosexual co-workers over at the CBC.

PV

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Jul 7, 2005, 4:22:23 AM7/7/05

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"Leon Trollski" <fan...@netguy.net> wrote in message

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http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=pejorative

pe·jor·a·tive (p-jôr-tv, -jr-, pj-rtv, pj-)
adj.
1.. Tending to make or become worse.
2.. Disparaging; belittling.

n.
A disparaging or belittling word or expression
time for a new dictionary

PV

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Jul 8, 2005, 12:15:11 AM7/8/05

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"PV" <edr...@NOSPAMtelus.net> wrote in message
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> time for a new dictionary
>
> PV
>
>
>

No.

Pejorative is in my dictionary. (from Late Latin pejoratus, pp. of pejorare
to make or become worse)

I failed to spot the OP's typo.

But the sentiment stands. He's a mincing, lisping metrosexual CBC worker.

fo...@bouncemail.ca

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Jul 8, 2005, 5:51:09 AM7/8/05

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On Mon, 4 Jul 2005 19:33:50 -0400, Oil Cowboy <m...@calgary.moo> wrote:

>GetLost <Get...@Telus.net> wrote in message:
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>>
>> Ten horses dead because the Calgary Stampede Association wants to promote
>> the Calgary Stampede by herding horses through a busy metropolis..."just
>> like they did in the old days". What a bunch of shit for brains idiots that
>> thought this a good idea.
>>
>More western alienation from Ontario. Ontario's to blame for this, you'll
>see. Tell President Klein.

As a matter of fact I watched the news the other night when a
politician from Ontario said that he paid 15,000.00 so that he could
be part of the herding crew. Imagine, 15,000.00 dollars per person and
there were about 200 herders. I know I keep repeating myself but this
whole country is going CRAZY WITH GREED. It seems that common sense
has gone right out the window in this country. All in the name of
making money.

fo...@bouncemail.ca

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Jul 8, 2005, 5:54:45 AM7/8/05

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On Mon, 4 Jul 2005 20:09:34 -0400, Manny <manny...@telus.net>
wrote:

>Mr. Frederick <fped...@hotmail.com> wrote in message:
>news:<Uckye.6724$mN.7...@news1.mts.net>
>> Bottom line, you could haul them in
>> trailers, and people protest, or you can herd them.
>>
>Haul them in trailers WHERE? or herd them WHERE?
>
>It was a pointless exercise in the first place, they weren't going anywhere
>and it was just a stunt. No excuses. They shouldn't have done it in the
>first place. What were they expecting in the city? Peace and quiet like out
>on the range?

I agree. The whole Stampede Board AND especially the person that
thought of this whole stupid idea should be fired. Period. I
personally am sick and tired of hearing how stupid people have become.
I wonder if they are all doing drugs for christ sakes. All it cost the
herders was 15,000.00 per person to be able to participate in the
ride. It all came down to money, money, money.

fo...@bouncemail.ca

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Jul 8, 2005, 5:58:54 AM7/8/05

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On Tue, 05 Jul 2005 00:40:21 GMT, "Marc Vunak" <mvu...@shaw.ca> wrote:

>
>The horses were unbroken and were being moved to the Calgary Stampede from
>the Stampede Ranch in SE Alberta. So that is to where. They were being
>herded to commemorate the centennial of Alberta and though I am sure that
>the organizers did try to plan for every possible situation, a train
>spooking the horses would be unexpected.

One wonders why if it was to commemorate the centennial of
Alberta (which I believe to be B.S. as this has already been done two
other times neither a centennial) why did the 20 "guests" have to PAY
15,000.00 each to participate? The whole Board needs to be fired.
Period.

fo...@bouncemail.ca

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Jul 8, 2005, 6:00:59 AM7/8/05

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On Wed, 06 Jul 2005 01:04:23 GMT, "Leon Trollski" <fan...@netguy.net>
wrote:

>
>No, what I call 'culture' is the fact we have more university graduates,
>more highspeed iternet access, higher literacy scores, the best scholastic
>test results in the world, or close to the best depending on the subject,
>and a host of other things in Calgary that you, Toronto guy, don't have, and
>never will.

All stats manipulated to make things look better than they really are.
It is just like creative accounting.

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Jul 8, 2005, 6:06:30 AM7/8/05

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On Mon, 4 Jul 2005 21:07:31 -0500, "Mr. Frederick"
<fped...@hotmail.com> wrote:

>
>I have no idea what you just said. They had horses at point A. They needed
>them at point B. How would you move them? Canada Post? They could have
>used horse trailers, but there are people that protest that as well. They
>chose to herd them. We all know what happened. In retrospect it was not
>the wisest decision. I have no idea how many other ways you think there are
>to move horses.

I would love to know how anyone figures that 200, get that, 200 wild
horses were needed for all the events that bucking horses, hell, any
kind of horses would have been needed. As for transport, they could
have been moved safely with those huge cattle cars. Instead it must
have been decided that a third trail ride could help raise some money.
All in the name of saving money.

>

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Jul 8, 2005, 6:15:12 AM7/8/05

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On Tue, 05 Jul 2005 00:57:01 GMT, alicecoop...@yahoo.com wrote:

>make us rich
>alberta the richest province in CANADA

Yeah, that is why the highways are a mess. When is the last time you
saw any expansion or upgrade on the whole highway, the cities are all
falling apart, waiting lists are humongous in health care even though
we have to pay extra for it, user fees are here and on the rise, gas
prices are almost as high as in Ontario and it is our oil and gas,
winter heating is through the roof, etc. etc. Yeah, it is so nice to
live in such a rich province. One would hardly know it if they were to
visit. BTW, gotta love the way King Ralph decided to name the
Calgary-Edmonton highway the Queen Elizabeth II. It is a very old
highway that is also falling apart just like the Queen. You would
think that he would have planned ahead, had the highway expanded and
all repaved and had the Queen cut the ribbon when she got here. No,
not good ole King Ralph. To much alcohol me thinks and no brain left.

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Jul 12, 2005, 9:05:14 PM7/12/05

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On Tue, 05 Jul 2005 01:54:15 GMT, Greg Carr <gca...@shaw.ca> wrote:

>They are also running an 8 billion dollar surplus while Ontario
>whether NDP, Liberal or Tory runs defecits year after year.

And most probably the reason good old Paulie Martin feels that Alberta
does not need transfer payments of any other help financially from the
Federal Government. To bad those of us living in the West still have
to pay federal taxes etc.

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Jul 12, 2005, 9:27:17 PM7/12/05

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On Tue, 05 Jul 2005 03:05:58 GMT, "Top Poster"
<The_Original_Top_Poster@top_poster.kalm> wrote:

>
> That's because they give our money away trying to stay in power.

That is exactly the word "POWER".

>
> They don't give two shits about kannerduh. All they want is their
>stinking goldplated MP pensions.

Agreed and Power, lots of it.

Check this out especially the increase in 2001:

>http://www.parl.gc.ca/information/about/process/info/Salary.asp?Language=E&param=H

If the link fails to work let me know and I will post the info.

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Jul 12, 2005, 9:30:26 PM7/12/05

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On Tue, 05 Jul 2005 03:04:34 GMT, "Top Poster"
<The_Original_Top_Poster@top_poster.kalm> wrote:

>
> I've been to TO. It's a smog-filled hell packed with gap-toothed
>mincing little turds that think the world revolves around them.

Me too. And the people that live there seem to have absolutely no
concept of the value of money. They tend to think that it grows on a
tree in their back yards while most Albertans tend to save. I was also
amazed to learn that their sewer system is so old in most parts that
the pipes tend to lead no where. At least, no one seems to know where
it is all going.

>
> Gimme the wide open spaces and air that a man can breathe without a

>smog mask, any day.

That and the power "blackouts" always on the hottest days of the year
when everyone else is trying to stay cool.

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Jul 12, 2005, 9:51:55 PM7/12/05

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On Tue, 5 Jul 2005 04:01:59 +0000 (UTC), gap...@vcn.bc.ca wrote:

>Greg Carr <gca...@shaw.ca> wrote:
>> Alberta has the highest employment rate in Canada, an extra paid
>> holiday (Heritage Day In Febuary). The lowest gas prices and no
>> provincial sales tax. They have less crime than TO.
>

>Which all sounds great until you realize the price to pay is living in. . .
>
>ALBERTA!!!

>
>and having ALBERTANS as your closest neighbours!

Wrong. Most of my closest new neighbours (and it is almost every house
because they all moved to Calgary) are all from Newfoundland and
Ontario. I wonder why?

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Jul 12, 2005, 9:54:04 PM7/12/05

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On Tue, 05 Jul 2005 05:01:56 GMT, "Top Poster"
<The_Original_Top_Poster@top_poster.kalm> wrote:

>
> Yes, you just HAVE to hate the hardworking, industrious and honest

>people known as Albertans.

You forgot common sense. Most Albertans have common sense which seems
to just disappear in Ontario and Quebec.

>
> It's much easier to line up for the dole every week.

And they all want higher and higher amounts. Who says that nothing in
life is FREE? One just needs to know how to "play the game".

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Jul 12, 2005, 10:05:53 PM7/12/05

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On Tue, 05 Jul 2005 05:37:25 GMT, MS <mik...@iname.com> wrote:

>
>Nothing wrong with the people from Alsaskitoba at all. Most are
>very friendly and hardworking and honest. It's just that the
>weather sucks and there's little in the way of scenery (except
>for Alberta's limited share of the Rocky Mountains and a few
>other sites like the Badlands).

I love B.C. having had lived there for 6 years. I don't however miss
all the tourists in the summer and the huge traffic jams etc. in
Vancouver. And, you are wrong about Alberta. My guess is you have
never been here but there is beautiful Banff, Jasper and all their
majestic peaks and lots and lots of wild animals. The farmer's fields
are beautiful when they are tall and the wind whips through them
creating a river like effect. We have Blairmore and the pass is
absolutely full of things to do especially fishing. Then there is
Waterton Parks and all the hiking trails. My children have been there
and I could not believe the trails that they had to walk, crawl and
shimmy through. Maybe you should try it sometime.

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Jul 12, 2005, 10:22:14 PM7/12/05

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On Tue, 5 Jul 2005 04:01:57 +0000 (UTC), gap...@vcn.bc.ca wrote:

>King Klein of Cowtown <m...@oil.bible> wrote:
>KC> You stupid fucking cowboys are drinking too much, you're hallucinating.
>
>It's all that tainted beef they've ingested!

I seem to recall that Alberta Beef used to be sent eastward years ago
and it was much cheaper to buy it there than to buy it at home.
Albertans always get the raw end of the stick from their own
politicians.

>
>schizophrenia burgers for all! YUM!!!

And now, if you crave it while down in the State,s it is now available
there as well.

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Jul 12, 2005, 10:25:20 PM7/12/05

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On Tue, 5 Jul 2005 04:01:54 +0000 (UTC), gap...@vcn.bc.ca wrote:

>Yeah, people are idiots!
>
>Why didn't they talk to the police about a parade permit type thing, and close
>off the herd route to traffic for the duration of the herd movement?

I heard on the news that it happened close to the traffic and noise of
the Deerfoot Trail and that is absolutely one ring road highway that
cannot be closed down no matter what in Calgary. Better to have herded
them to some farm just outside of Calgary and then trucked them in.
Way safer but again money ruled over common sense and again, tragedy
struck.

Greg Carr

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Jul 13, 2005, 8:31:46 PM7/13/05

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When I lived in Alberta most of my friends were from BC, Quebec, Ont.
and Nova Scotia. Met a lot of born Albertans to but ppl migrating from
other provinces and a few other countries were who I met the most.

Ppl just keep moving there because the taxes are lower, lots of work
and the cost of living is less. I found it a little too cowboy and
redneck but BC is like that outside the cities as well.

Greg Carr

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Jul 13, 2005, 8:27:07 PM7/13/05

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I've always liked Toronto when I've been there.

Greg Carr

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Jul 13, 2005, 8:25:59 PM7/13/05

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A prof named Leon Craig has come out in favour of Alberta seperating
by itself or with the other western provinces. He calls the eastern
provinces, " a third world banana republic" which is over the top but
the problems there seem to be permenant with no citizen or political
will to change.

Time for Alberta to exit, stage right?
By LINK BYFIELD -- Calgary Sun

A University of Alberta professor I know sent me a lengthy article
he's trying to get published, entitled: "Let's get while the getting's
good."

In it, Leon Craig, professor emeritus of political science, lays out a
case for Alberta to declare unilateral independence. And he lays it
out well.

Craig makes no bones about it.

Alberta, he says, should go it alone.

Almost overnight, we would become one of the most prosperous nations
in the world.

But -- and this is his key point -- the main reason to secede is not
because Albertans would have more money. Not that there's anything
wrong with money.

More importantly, we would create a country that reflects our own
political and social beliefs, values and traditions, and our
understanding of the common good.

Canada, says Craig, has been so badly governed since the Trudeau era,
it has doomed itself to a Third World, banana republic fate.

We will become -- are in fact becoming -- the Argentina of the 21st
century.

Political corruption gets rewarded instead of punished, productivity
slides, and the opportunistic politics of envy becomes the basis of
our whole system of national government.

The only promising place left in Canada, he concludes, is Alberta.

And Alberta owes it to itself, to its future citizens, and to
like-minded people in the rest of the country to save itself.

As a sovereign and independent nation, he suggests, our population --
viable to begin with -- would double in 10 years, even allowing for a
welcome exodus of Albertans who would be happier back in Canada.

Far more good people move to take advantage of opportunity than flee
from it.

Our social policies -- marriage and family matters, medicare, civil
and religious freedoms, etc. -- would no longer be imposed by the
Supreme Court and a handful of Ottawa mandarins.

We could establish our own laws to deal with crime and punishment, and
our own separate relationship with the Americans.

If we don't do these things now, he says, we'll sink with the Canadian
ship.

The professor dismisses the idea of "refederating" Canada along its
original lines of strong provinces and a small central government.

He thinks the rest of the country is too far gone to change back to
what it was.

He even gives short shrift to the "West."

Any attempt to create a new federalism, even in the West, he believes
will fail. If other western provinces, or parts of provinces, want to
join Alberta, by becoming part of it, they should be welcomed.

All that binds Albertans to Canada, he concludes, is sentiment -- an
attachment to Canada's once-illustrious military and pioneer past, and
to our own provincial part in it.

We must now face the fact that the old Canada is gone forever and the
new Canada is disgusting.

So what are we to make of all this?

It's hard to argue against his analysis of the problem.

The Trudeau delusion that you can build a credible nation with
"national social programs" is so shallow it's absurd.

And given the stern rejection of the Reform party by eastern
Canadians, it's impossible to refute that the only forceful thing
Albertans can do is to separate.

Where I disagree with my friend is whether we owe any allegiance to
other Canadians.

What is driving more and more Albertans towards separatism is the fact
that our original constitutional arrangement -- the political bargain
on which Canada was built -- has long since been obliterated by the
national government.

Had that not happened, Canada would not be in its present ugly mess.

Alberta is the only province with both the means and the motive to
force a restoration of those original terms. Not by asking. By
telling.

But we owe it to our nine federal partners -- the other provinces --
to state the terms on which we would be willing to stay. This is
something we have never done.

Only if those terms are refused should we decide on independence.
http://canadianspectator.ca/

Too bad he didn't just post the whole thing on his web site instead of
waiting to get paid for it.

Mo Green

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Jul 13, 2005, 9:22:18 PM7/13/05

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Greg Carr <gca...@shaw.ca> wrote in message:
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There haven't been any power blackouts since the great east coast blackout 2
years ago. Maybe fo...@bouncemail.ca should stick to the truth for once in
his miserable life. It's one thing to be jealous of Toronto, but to
continually lie is disingenuous.

TopPoster

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Jul 14, 2005, 3:37:00 AM7/14/05

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Why do the Byfields marry women from the third world?

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Jul 14, 2005, 7:23:48 AM7/14/05

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On Wed, 13 Jul 2005 20:25:59 GMT, Greg Carr <gca...@shaw.ca> dared
speak in front of ME:

>On Tue, 12 Jul 2005 21:05:14 GMT, fo...@bouncemail.ca wrote:
>As a sovereign and independent nation, he suggests, our population --
>viable to begin with -- would double in 10 years, even allowing for a
>welcome exodus of Albertans who would be happier back in Canada.
>
>Far more good people move to take advantage of opportunity than flee
>from it.

Hrm.

>Our social policies -- marriage and family matters, medicare, civil
>and religious freedoms, etc. -- would no longer be imposed by the
>Supreme Court and a handful of Ottawa mandarins.

Well, there goes the opportunity for folks who aren't straight, white
and male.

>http://canadianspectator.ca/
>
>Too bad he didn't just post the whole thing on his web site instead of
>waiting to get paid for it.

Meet the Byfield family.
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Jul 14, 2005, 7:50:51 AM7/14/05

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On Wed, 13 Jul 2005 17:22:18 -0400, Mo Green <mo.g...@cosmo.it>
wrote:

The heatwave can't be any fun though.

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Jul 20, 2005, 5:51:21 AM7/20/05

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On Wed, 13 Jul 2005 17:22:18 -0400, Mo Green <mo.g...@cosmo.it>
wrote:

>>

>There haven't been any power blackouts since the great east coast blackout 2
>years ago. Maybe fo...@bouncemail.ca should stick to the truth for once in
>his miserable life. It's one thing to be jealous of Toronto, but to

Years ago when I went out to Toronto to visit my sister everyone even
then were on brown out control. Toronto was always browning out. You
did it then and you all are still doing it now. Too bad your
politicans don't even any great need to fix the problem.

Ontario faces outage
Heat wave pushes power consumption to new high

April Lindgren
CanWest News Service, with files from the Winnipeg Free Press

Tuesday, July 19, 2005

1 | 2 | NEXT >>

CREDIT: Brent Foster, National Post
John Gonsalves cuts Sharon Merrick's hair as a fan cools Cabbagetown
HairStyling and Barbershop on Parliament Street yesterday;...

TORONTO - Ontarians sweltering in a prolonged heat wave face brownouts
and rotating blackouts if they do not cut power consumption over the
next five days, the province's electricity supply manager warned
yesterday.

"We're in a situation that isn't going to go away immediately -- it's
going to be around as long as this heat wave lasts," said Terry Young,
spokesman for the Independent Electricity System Operator (IESO).

"What you are seeing is a continued strain on the power system."

The IESO's latest voluntary appeal for reduced consumption is in
effect until Friday at 6 p.m. Consumers and businesses are being asked
to reduce electricity consumption each day between 8 a.m. and 10 p.m.

"More immediate, stronger appeals such as a power warning or power
emergency may be issued if the situation deteriorates," the agency
warned.

A power warning means the IESO may resort to brownouts -- in effect, a
voltage reduction -- so less power is required to service all of the
province's electricity needs. A power emergency is code for a
blackout.

Mr. Young said there is some evidence consumers are conserving in
response to pleas from the power authority. The IESO has been asking
that consumption be restricted until after 8 p.m., and there has been
a marked increase in consumption after that time, he said, which
suggests people are heeding the warnings.

Authorities say the hot weather means less water is available in
rivers for hydroelectric generation, and warmer lake water poses
problems for nuclear and coal plants, which rely on it for cooling.

The higher temperatures also put added stress on the
power-transmission grid because the wires are not cooling off at
night.

The province has been setting new records for electricity demand in a
summer that has already prompted Toronto's medical officer of health
to declare heat alerts on 22 days. Yesterday was the eighth
consecutive day of the latest extreme heat alert, which is declared
when a prolonged period of high temperatures means the likelihood of a
weather-related death exceeds 90%.

Electricity demand peaked at 25,857 megawatts yesterday at 4 p.m.
Demand for power reached a new record last Wednesday, when it rose to
26,170 megawatts, up from the previous record of 26,157 on June 27.
Prior to this year, the record high for electricity demand was set on
Aug. 13, 2002, when it peaked at 25,414.

Ontario Power Generation spokesman John Earl said the province's
electricity supply is expected to receive a boost from the return to
service of the Pickering A Unit Four reactor.

"It should be back in service over the next day," he said.

Unit Four was shut down on April 2 for unanticipated repairs related
to the thinning of feeder pipes that supply and remove coolant for the
pressure tubes that hold uranium bundles in CANDU reactors.

The unit -- it only came back into service in September, 2003, after a
retrofit that was almost two years behind schedule and much more
costly than anticipated -- will add 515 megawatts to Ontario's
domestic electricity supply.

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