Magellan Cyclo 100

[Rozella Dibley]

Aspart of the update, the Cyclo 305/310/500 series head units will now be able to read and record shifting information from compatible Di2 electronic shifting units. Back in January, there was a sneak peak at the new ANT wireless transmitter, which aims to be an accessory for existing installation, and based on the pricing listed here, a rather cheap one in the $115US price range.

Looking at the technology, ANT+ as a protocol can indeed support encryption of data. In some ANT+ medical devices today, they already do a less extensive form of that for validating handshake between two devices prior to transmission of data.

Ultimately, this is just the tip of the iceberg. Especially if the companies can work together a bit, focus on building out a public ANT+ profile versus a private one, and then get the platform pieces in place to allow it to flourish. Just like other sensor types such as power meters or speed/cadence sensors.

In the case of the trainer control profile, it enables an ANT+ device to control any trainer that implements the profile. Up until this point, each company that builds a computerized trainer usually implements their own private way of controlling things. While those companies often allowed control over private ANT, it was never actually ANT+, and each company did it differently.

The unit will search for the trainer and then upon successful pairing can control attributes such as grade or resistance. The ANT+ profile can also simulate wind and track/ground resistance, and can send calibration messages to the trainer, however, the Mio unit is just focusing on the first two pieces.

Neither Elite, nor CycleOps have provided timeline information. Though CycleOps was clear that they plan to implement it down the road, but figuring out the plan for existing units is the tricky part. CycleOps has however been very open in giving existing software development companies direct access to control the trainer.

ANT+ Power Meter Support: In addition to all the items above, the Mio unit now supports ANT+ enabled power meters. Which means that you can display/record data from any ANT+ power meter, such as a PowerTap, Quarq, Power2Max, Stages, Garmin Vector, SRM, and on and on. Lots of options there today to connect to. (Note: Mio has clarified that they have only tested themselves PowerTap, Quarq, SRM and Stages).

And on a side note, I reached out to CompuTrainer as well (RacerMate Inc), since they are now technically an ANT+ member, to see if they were considering adopting it. No response yet, but it was getting close to closing time for them.

The European units ship with Western Europe maps, including the UK mapset. Their plan is for Q3 to allow you to go online and buy maps for other locales, if for example, you traveled to North America or somewhere else.

This is such in interesting market segment considering the Samsung S5 will be out next week and is waterproof and ant+. Just wondering how many will be investing in head units in place of a new phone since most people carry phones with them already.

As this is an Australian first incorporating and all road and cycling network into a navigable strings and routing by bike type , we are totally open to hearing any improvements to feed back to our mapping partners in order to improve quality of data. If you could email: pcnsu...@navman.com.au with:

I have a Cyclo 505 HC. I emailed Magellan Support in Australia and specifically asked about the new software/firmware and the support for Di2 integration as I have the Shimano D-Fly unit shipping to me from Japan. I pointed out that the US site lists this as a feature and was enquiring as to when functionality would be available via a software/firmware upgrade to my Australian unit to which the replier said:

I went ahead and purchased the 505 and it is driving me crazy. Every time I ride (daily) it cant find the sensors before I ride off and I find myself riding down the road turning the stupid thing on and off several times before it final pairs up. This is not only infuriating, but just plain unacceptable. How dumb is this device that it cannot remember the only sensors it is ever going to be paired with. Worse still, I have a coffee at the end of the ride and after coffee the stupid thing has again lost the sensors and wont pair up until I fool around for 5 minutes.

I have just moved to London from Australia. Cycling in an unfamiliar city was the main reason i bought the magellan cycle 500 before i left. I now join the queue of people frustrated at the inability to download new maps. i would happily pay extra $ to have this feature. Magellan support have not been helpful. Any one have any further insights into when this might occur? Paris, you said this was being planned one year ago?

Thanks for taking the time to post this reply and it makes perfect sense. A suggestion i would have is make this reply into its own post so others can understand the decision making that goes in selecting products to review.

My other choice is a Garmin Edge 810, but Garmin is a lazy company knocking out bad/old hardware, bad software, bad UI at premium prices. I had an Edge 800 a couple of years back it was truly dreadful. My be the 810 is better (dreaming).

Hi everyone,

just wanting some info on the bike mounts that the Cyclo 505 uses. I saw one review that thought they were not overly user friendly. Just wondering how they might compare to the garmin mounting system . ? How secure would the unit be for MTB given its relatively large size

I believe recent firmware improved this substantially. Mine certainly seems ok. There is also a screenlock after a few minutes so accidental activation isnt an issue. Amazon have various screen protectors that fit and I found a further improvement when one was installed

I picked one of these up because I felt like testing it in comparison to the Garmin. It certainly misses some of the functionality of the Garmin series, though the navigation could be considered better.

The Magellan/Mio Cyclo 505 seems like a great unit, but is let down in a few areas such as the 1s recording, the inability to add maps for other countries and the inability to add additional pages of data.

For an average cyclist like myself, it has more than enough metrics to satisfy my data thirst :-)

While it does have some shortcomings for the serious athlete, I would still recommend the unit for the average cyclist as the best bang for your buck.

Thanks for the feedback Jason and Paul. I think my problem is that I want the unit to be a great training device and a good navigator as well. It is hard to go past the value offer that the Cyclo presents, though I feel that the data side of things is a bit behind the Garmin.

So coach brought over his 505HC running version cyclo 4.0.3.8556 2014-04-14 and got to play with all the bluetooth phone call and music player on his device to my iphone, txt was greyout and would not work. His also had the Di2 screen. The phone call and music player was way cool and will definitely be a bonus. This software version also paired to my ANT + sensors and SRM7900, but not my SRM9000. My own unit runs Dodge 3.2.9.7935 version software and is pretty lame. Anyone know where cyclo 4.0.3.8556 2014-04-14 might be sourced from? we got both devices at the same time.

This appears to have fixed the connectivity issues with my ANT + devices, now detects and displays power from my SRM power meters, enabled the music control as well as call alert, sms alert and voice instruction. Di2 information etc.

How did they give it to you? Did they email the file to you and did you install it yourself? I really want to get my hands on the new version to test out Di2 integration and to see if the issues I am having with ANT+ have been rectified.

Hi Michael,

As Peter says they transferred (in my case 476 MB) using teamviewer. Click on my name here and then leave a comment on my website with your email address if you want my version (with Australian Maps).

Unfortunately after being unsuccessful in my attempts to upgrade, I rung the support line and was told that the firmware was not available for download until the 27th of May. Either their support centre are the last to know (sad but common) or who proof read the page, omitted to add that useful snippet of information.

Hello,

Has anyone testet the V4.06 Firmware with a BT Cadence/Speed Sensor? With V3.1 it works with no Problem, now with the V4.06.8088 (Europeen/German Version) the Recording stops and doesnt record any data, just when deaktivating the BT Sensor, it goes on recording.

With my Garmin HeartRate-Strap it works with no Problem.

Thank you Greg, for this cool Information-Website.

This Evening I will adding some Infos what i have found (if not written yet on your site).

It seems, that Mio has installed a few EasterEgg-Bugs in the new Version :-/ .

Hi Oliver,

you said you are using BT (Bluetooth) sensors. Here in Australia the Cyclo 505 is sold with ANT+ Heart Rate and Speed/Cadence sensors. Two different communication technologies. I do not have Di2 so cannot test it.

v4.0.6.8808 2014-04-25 was released in Australia on 27 May 2014. Since installing this version:

1. I have had absolutely no sensor problems. Once paired everything works automatically without any issues at all.

2. The phone interface works exactly as advertised on my Samsung Note 2 running KitKat v4.4.2

3. The mapping is much better with fast and accurate re-routing if I go off the chosen track.

Since the update it has been very difficult to activate/pause (record) rides. Also transfers from Mio to Strava has change. Now it takes hours before an activity uploaded to Mio is transferred to Strava.

To ensure Di2 works (will not work with Cyclo500 as is BT only not ANT+ ) and phone compatibility with Cyclo500 series you need to ensure you are device is running the latest software 4.0.6.8808 or beyond.

This is extremely exciting. For other AUS users is there a support forum you are discussing ongoing feature developments or is this being done here on dc rainmaker for now? I look forward to the in depth review I just need a good excuse to dump my Edge 810.

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