Japanese text
rjh...@ucs.ed.ac.uk
I have some Japanese, rendered in roman text which includes what I
presume are encodings for accented characters. For exaple: Do^miki Saki,
Nyu^do^ Saki. Can any local Japanese speaker tell me please what
character the o^ and u^ represent? I am guessing that o^ represents an o
with a bar over, but I don't know about the other.
I have tried lang.sci.japan and got no response, the online dictionary I
have found is no use, and I got my knuckles rapped for asking an
off-topic question on my Japanese chess mailing list, so...
Thanks.
Roger Hare:
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Ken Nicolson
rjh...@ucs.ed.ac.uk wrote:
>I have some Japanese, rendered in roman text which includes what I
>presume are encodings for accented characters. For exaple: Do^miki Saki,
>Nyu^do^ Saki. Can any local Japanese speaker tell me please what
>character the o^ and u^ represent? I am guessing that o^ represents an o
>with a bar over, but I don't know about the other.
You're probably correct: I'd guess it's a 7-bit ASCII convention for
long o's and u's. The other way of writing this might be Nyuudoo, or
perhaps Nyuudou as long o's are usually spelt ou in Hiragana, so
To^kyo^ for example is written in Hiragana as if it's Toukyou. O^saka
is Oosaka though, so there's probably some other rule coming into play
also.
I could of course be talking nonsense as I've only been going to
Japanese classes for 9 weeks.
>Thanks.
HTH
>Roger Hare:
Ken
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Chris Boyd
rjh...@ucs.ed.ac.uk wrote:
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: Roger Hare:
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Oh dear -- the mask has slipped. Roger is STILL using ecce...
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Rainer Thonnes
In article <6me09p$c...@scotsman.ed.ac.uk>,
chr...@hgu.mrc.ac.uk (Chris Boyd) writes:
> rjh...@ucs.ed.ac.uk wrote:
> : m-0
> : p
> : m1
>
> Oh dear -- the mask has slipped. Roger is STILL using ecce...
Well why on Earth should he use anything else, if that's the one
he knows and loves, and is the one he knows better how to drive
than any others editors?
I'd be scuppered without it.
Nick Rothwell
chr...@hgu.mrc.ac.uk (Chris Boyd) writes:
> : m-0
> : p
> : m1
>
> Oh dear -- the mask has slipped. Roger is STILL using ecce...
Good grief, there's a command syntax I've not seen for well over
a decade...
>m-0p0
***EOF***
>m0i/%endofprogram/b; %C
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rjh...@ucs.ed.ac.uk
Nick Rothwell <ni...@cassiel.com> writes:
> Good grief, there's a command syntax I've not seen for well over
> a decade...
>
> >m-0p0
> ***EOF***
> >m0i/%endofprogram/b; %C
Actually, I was thinking of digging out a copy of TECO - I think I still
have one somewhere...
RH
rjh...@ucs.ed.ac.uk
>
> : Roger Hare:
> : p
> : m1
>
> Oh dear -- the mask has slipped. Roger is STILL using ecce...
Absolutement, mon general!
It's the only usable editor amongst the repertoire allowed by my
brain-dead news software.
Actually, ecce is still very good for powerful, global style edits. I
use it a lot, embedded in little programs which automatically modify
long text files - searchng for \e' and replacing with the appropriate
coding for e=acute in html files for instance. Great!
In the real world, I usually use xedit which is great for the (usually)
short files I generally deal with.
RH.
PS: Guess which mailer I *still* use...
Chris Boyd
Rainer Thonnes (r...@dcs.ed.ac.uk) wrote:
: In article <6me09p$c...@scotsman.ed.ac.uk>,: > : m-0
: > : p
: > : m1
: >
: > Oh dear -- the mask has slipped. Roger is STILL using ecce...
: Well why on Earth should he use anything else, if that's the one
: he knows and loves, and is the one he knows better how to drive
: than any others editors?
Indignation is the first mark of the guilty.
: I'd be scuppered without it.
Closet ecce users of the world unite!
Let me confess that I also still use ecce on a daily basis,
specifically the 1984 vintage freeware C version written by Graham
Toal. Having a C source means I can and do port ecce anywhere in Unix-
and Linux-land. Otherwise half my scripts would break...
Whatever happened to the idea of making an EMAS shell for Unix? How I
long to cherish files again.
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rjh...@ucs.ed.ac.uk
chr...@hgu.mrc.ac.uk (Chris Boyd) writes:
> Let me confess that I also still use ecce on a daily basis,
> specifically the 1984 vintage freeware C version written by Graham
> Toal. Having a C source means I can and do port ecce anywhere in Unix-
> and Linux-land. Otherwise half my scripts would break...
Er, I have to admit to writing a simple look-alike myself, as an
exercise in learning a new programming language, in about 1990. It means
that I can port ecce to amiga, atari, ibm, vms, unix, dos, windows,
macintosh, and if I were to wish to do so, I can even run it on a java
virtual machine...
Paradise....
RH
rjh...@ucs.ed.ac.uk
chr...@hgu.mrc.ac.uk (Chris Boyd) writes:
> Whatever happened to the idea of making an EMAS shell for Unix? How I
> long to cherish files again.
Guess what, I also wrote a (*very*) simple-minded EMAS look-alike
interface for Unix as part of the same language learning exercise. I
ain't letting that one out of the box though...
RH.
J Fisher
Iain A F Fleming
In ed.general
the being calling itself "chr...@hgu.mrc.ac.uk (Chris Boyd)"
wrote:
> Let me confess that I also still use ecce on a daily basis,
> specifically the 1984 vintage freeware C version written by Graham
> Toal. Having a C source means I can and do port ecce anywhere in Unix-
> and Linux-land. Otherwise half my scripts would break...
I'm told (by a reliable source) that the first editor to run on the
DEC Alpha processor was ecce.
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Rainer Thonnes
In article <6mlaa5$c...@scotsman.ed.ac.uk>,
chr...@hgu.mrc.ac.uk (Chris Boyd) writes:
Perhaps, but guilty of what? Choosing the best? :-)
Jack Campin
rjh...@ucs.ed.ac.uk writes:
> Er, I have to admit to writing a simple look-alike myself, as an
> exercise in learning a new programming language, in about 1990. It means
> that I can port ecce to amiga, atari, ibm, vms, unix, dos, windows,
> macintosh, and if I were to wish to do so, I can even run it on a java
> virtual machine...
Have you got a drag-and-droppable ecce for the Mac? Ecce may not
be the world's friendliest editor syntax but it sure beats Perl,
which is what most Mac users write simple text filter programs in.
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rjh...@ucs.ed.ac.uk
No because (as the Institute for Mainframe Purity) tells us, Pascal is
the work of Satan, and if you use it, the Emasic Fundamentalists will
descend on you and tear out your fingernails with red hot pincers, (in
fact, I'm surprised you got away with it for so long...).
Older readers may remember the incident of 'The Satanic VUED' and the
schism caused by that other work of the Devil. We don't want to go
through all that again, do we?
RH
J Fisher
rjh...@ucs.ed.ac.uk wrote:
: jo...@epcc.ed.ac.uk (J Fisher) writes:
: > I wrote an ecce in Pascal once. Does that count?
:
: No because (as the Institute for Mainframe Purity) tells us, Pascal is
: the work of Satan, and if you use it, the Emasic Fundamentalists will
: descend on you and tear out your fingernails with red hot pincers, (in
: fact, I'm surprised you got away with it for so long...).
But, but... I only did it for some Z80 machine and there
wasn't an Imp compiler for the Z80, as far as I was aware.
I didn't stray *voluntarily* from the One True Path.
Anyhow, I was working for Moray House at the time.
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Richard Tobin
In article <6mlbp2$e...@scotsman.ed.ac.uk> rjh...@ucs.ed.ac.uk writes:
>Guess what, I also wrote a (*very*) simple-minded EMAS look-alike
>interface for Unix as part of the same language learning exercise.
I remember Graham Rule once telling me there was a plan to write a
free EMAS clone to be known as "Gnu EMAS".
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rjh...@ucs.ed.ac.uk
ja...@purr.demon.co.uk (Jack Campin) writes:
>
> Have you got a drag-and-droppable ecce for the Mac? Ecce may not
'fraid not - after all, it wouldn't be ecce then, would it?
RH
Rainer Thonnes
In article <Euz86...@cogsci.ed.ac.uk>,
ric...@cogsci.ed.ac.uk (Richard Tobin) writes:
>
> I remember Graham Rule once telling me there was a plan to write a
> free EMAS clone to be known as "Gnu EMAS".
Wasn't someone going to put a version up on the VAX, called EMAX?