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Sir Harry Lauder Road-cycles or no cycles?

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!Speedy Gonzales!

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Jul 10, 2007, 2:02:46 PM7/10/07
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Mon-Fri I cycle to/from work which is located near the Freightliner Terminal
at Sir Harry Lauder Road. Normally nothing untoward happens but recently I'm
getting more and more verbal abuse from drivers passing me, in fact I can
safely say events have picked up since the works at the junction with Milton
Road were completed a few weeks back. The latest was a middle aged private
hire taxi driver that slowed down from the maximum 40mph to the 25 or so I
was doing, and volleyed abuse at me through his passenger window, citing in
no uncertain terms that my presence was not required on this thoroughfare.
In doing so he caused me to almost come off the road and created a mini
queue behind him as he vented his spleen. Now I'm a driver as well and AFAIK
cyclists are allowed on this stretch of road, there are certainly no signs
to the contrary, so what's the beef? I cycle no more than 12" from the kerb
and wear high viz and lights if required so it's certainly not the fact I'm
obstructing the flow of traffic.
Any ideas?
I'm starting to wonder now if my colleagues have pinned a notice to my back
as I leave, perhaps 'stress toy on board, abuse at will'!?!

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!Speedy Gonzales!

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Jim O'D

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Jul 10, 2007, 2:16:05 PM7/10/07
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!Speedy Gonzales! wrote:
> Mon-Fri I cycle to/from work which is located near the Freightliner Terminal
> at Sir Harry Lauder Road. Normally nothing untoward happens but recently I'm
> getting more and more verbal abuse from drivers passing me, in fact I can
...

> I'm starting to wonder now if my colleagues have pinned a notice to my back
> as I leave, perhaps 'stress toy on board, abuse at will'!?!
>

Ooh it's been ages since a good cycling thread.

Jim

!Speedy Gonzales!

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Jul 10, 2007, 2:19:56 PM7/10/07
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"Jim O'D" <j...@cannedham.ee.ed.ac.uk> wrote in message
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> Ooh it's been ages since a good cycling thread.

I'm thinking more along the lines of 'courteous road user' thread but off
course feel free to take a pew and wait for the inevitable road
tax(duty)/insurance arguments to start ;-)
Seriously though, I just want to know what the problem is!?!

Claudio Calvelli

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Jul 10, 2007, 2:19:16 PM7/10/07
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On 2007-07-10, !Speedy Gonzales! wrote:
> Mon-Fri I cycle to/from work which is located near the Freightliner Terminal
> at Sir Harry Lauder Road. Normally nothing untoward happens but recently I'm
> getting more and more verbal abuse from drivers passing me, in fact I can
> safely say events have picked up since the works at the junction with Milton
> Road were completed a few weeks back. The latest was a middle aged private
[...]

I don't remember seeing any signs suggesting that one can't cycle there, but
I haven't been there in a while.

I do remember seeing the road marked as "no cycling" on the Spokes map, and
wondering how did they decide that this is the case.

(I can't find my map so I cannot say I am 100% sure it's marked as "no cycling",
but I am 100% sure somebody will correct me if it isn't)

C

Iain Turnbull

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Jul 10, 2007, 3:09:23 PM7/10/07
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I must admit that I've never passed a bike on this road, and I use it a
lot - but I'm not aware of it being a no-go area. The only problem I'm
aware of is neds throwing stuff off the footbridge...

--
Iain Turnbull
Your home may be at risk if you set fire to it
Terms and conditions apply

Claudio Calvelli

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Jul 10, 2007, 3:25:56 PM7/10/07
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On 2007-07-10, Iain Turnbull wrote:
> I must admit that I've never passed a bike on this road, and I use it a
> lot - but I'm not aware of it being a no-go area. The only problem I'm
> aware of is neds throwing stuff off the footbridge...

Now I found the map (behind one of the cat's places, wonder how it got
there) and in fact it doesn't show Sir Harry Lauder Road as no cycling.
Oddly, it also doesn't mark the bits of the A1 which are definitely no
cycling, so maybe I've had this information from elsewhere...

C

Zimmy

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Jul 10, 2007, 6:10:14 PM7/10/07
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"!Speedy Gonzales!" <speedyg...@SPAMTRAPblueyonder.co.uk> wrote in
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It's just a taxi driver, don't worry about it. Just because they drive all
day, they think they own the road, and can meter out advice to all and
sundry, while pulling high speed U-turns into oncoming traffic, holding
everyone up while they deliberately take forever 'finding' change, etc, etc.
(Not to mention their passengers throwing doors open without a glance.)

When I cycled to work, 90% of the (generally very small amount of) abuse I
got was from Taxi drivers, eg. if there was the tiniest covering of snow and
I was cycling in one of the tracks you'd have thought I'd done him out of a
years wages. They tend to work long hours and tend to get over-tired and
irritable towards the end of a shift.

Z

Alex Bird

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Jul 10, 2007, 6:58:14 PM7/10/07
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Zimmy wrote:

> It's just a taxi driver, don't worry about it.

I have to correct you - it's a private hire driver.
Compared to private hire drivers, taxi drivers start to look pretty
damn nice!
(In fact most taxi drivers are quite nice, but it's the arseholes you
remember)

Personally, I wouldn't cycle along there if I had any choice about it,
which I assume the OP doesn't.

The morons are extremely susceptable to weather conditions. The
slightly sunny conditions are almost certainly to blame.

You can safely ignore this. In fact you should ignore it. I cannot
remember a single occasion where abuse/threats shouted by a taxi
driver bore any relation to reality, they really are in a little world
of their own. Just be glad you're not in it too!

Alex

Alan

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Jul 10, 2007, 7:35:00 PM7/10/07
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The latest was a middle aged private
> hire taxi driver that slowed down from the maximum 40mph to the 25 or so I
> was doing, and volleyed abuse at me through his passenger window, citing
> in no uncertain terms that my presence was not required on this
> thoroughfare.


No such thing, if you say he was a private hire driver then the word "taxi"
does not apply. The word "taxi" is a legally restricted term which does not
apply to a private hire driver.

Alan


Mike Dickson

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Jul 11, 2007, 1:50:06 AM7/11/07
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Alan wrote:

> No such thing, if you say he was a private hire driver then the word "taxi"
> does not apply. The word "taxi" is a legally restricted term which does not
> apply to a private hire driver.

...and /another/ thread goes down the ed.general rabbithole...

--
Mike Dickson, Edinburgh

Ian

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Jul 11, 2007, 5:50:26 AM7/11/07
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How long until Craig Cockburn chips in to tell us all that he was
using the internet in 1973 and tries to flog a domain name ...

I think the quality of inconsequential debate here has gone sadly
downhill since Richard Caley died.

Ian

Ronald Raygun

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Jul 11, 2007, 4:10:21 PM7/11/07
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Iain Turnbull wrote:

> I must admit that I've never passed a bike on this road, and I use it a
> lot - but I'm not aware of it being a no-go area. The only problem I'm
> aware of is neds throwing stuff off the footbridge...

What stuff? Cyclists?

Iain Turnbull

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Jul 11, 2007, 4:12:08 PM7/11/07
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Wouldn't put it past the little shits.

Claudio Calvelli

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Jul 11, 2007, 4:29:28 PM7/11/07
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On 2007-07-11, Iain Turnbull wrote:

> Ronald Raygun wrote:
>>
>>> I must admit that I've never passed a bike on this road, and I use it a
>>> lot - but I'm not aware of it being a no-go area. The only problem I'm
>>> aware of is neds throwing stuff off the footbridge...
>>
>> What stuff? Cyclists?
>>
>
> Wouldn't put it past the little shits.

I often cycle on that footbridge, and the little shits (to dignify them)
never even dared coming anywhere near me. But then my bike looks like it's
been in a few major wars, so they may think the rider has too.

Would be inappropriate if I helped the neds to follow whatever they are
throwing? I promise I'll avoid hitting any vehicle.

C

Iain Turnbull

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Jul 11, 2007, 5:37:42 PM7/11/07
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Hell, what's a ned-dent or two between friends?

Windmill

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Jul 11, 2007, 4:28:03 AM7/11/07
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Jim O'D <j...@cannedham.ee.ed.ac.uk> writes:

>Ooh it's been ages since a good cycling thread.

And a relatively safe topic too, which is more than can be said about
the act of cycling.
--
Windmill, Really t m i l l
Til...@Nonetel.com @ O n e t e l
. c o m

Mike Dickson

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Jul 12, 2007, 1:43:27 AM7/12/07
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Ian wrote:

>>> No such thing, if you say he was a private hire driver then the word "taxi"
>>> does not apply. The word "taxi" is a legally restricted term which does not
>>> apply to a private hire driver.
>> ...and /another/ thread goes down the ed.general rabbithole...
>
> How long until Craig Cockburn chips in to tell us all that he was
> using the internet in 1973 and tries to flog a domain name ...

I think I can hear him warming up.

> I think the quality of inconsequential debate here has gone sadly
> downhill since Richard Caley died.

<ED.GENERAL>Actually, 'to go sadly downhill' is a split infinitive and
is grammatically incorrect. It would be more accurate to say 'it has
sadly gone downhill', even although not in the common parlance. In
'Prometheus Bound' Αἰσχύλος used the expression. Quoting from the
original Greek we see that...</ED.GENERAL>

--
Mike Dickson, Edinburgh

Dave

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Jul 12, 2007, 3:58:44 AM7/12/07
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On Wed, 11 Jul 2007 20:10:21 GMT, Ronald Raygun
<no....@localhost.localdomain> somehow managed to impart:

There's a photo of said road from said bridge here:
<http://www.henniker.org.uk/html/ed_east3.htm>.
(2nd image down on the page, link was broken due to spaces in the
filename)


Dave
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Zimmy

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Jul 12, 2007, 5:36:06 AM7/12/07
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"Mike Dickson" <mi...@blackcat.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
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Well, his name is an anagram of "Anal", perhaps it was misspelled? :-)

Z


Iain Turnbull

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Jul 12, 2007, 12:37:05 PM7/12/07
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Dave wrote:
> On Wed, 11 Jul 2007 20:10:21 GMT, Ronald Raygun
> <no....@localhost.localdomain> somehow managed to impart:
>
>> Iain Turnbull wrote:
>>
>>> I must admit that I've never passed a bike on this road, and I use it a
>>> lot - but I'm not aware of it being a no-go area. The only problem I'm
>>> aware of is neds throwing stuff off the footbridge...
>> What stuff? Cyclists?
>
> There's a photo of said road from said bridge here:
> <http://www.henniker.org.uk/html/ed_east3.htm>.
> (2nd image down on the page, link was broken due to spaces in the
> filename)

Nice photo (as always!), but the bridge I've been bombarded from in the
past is the one further up - I think it goes from St Mark's Place in
Porty to the Christian Crescent area.

Tom Orr

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Jul 13, 2007, 12:23:14 PM7/13/07
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"Iain Turnbull" <iaintu...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> Nice photo (as always!), but the bridge I've been bombarded from in the
> past is the one further up - I think it goes from St Mark's Place in Porty
> to the Christian Crescent area.

Do you mean the one that passes above the industrial estate where the
Edinburgh Tea and Coffee Company sends up those clouds of coffee roasting
smells?

Tom.

Iain Turnbull

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Jul 13, 2007, 3:58:12 PM7/13/07
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Dunno, never noticed that!

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