Letter from Tyali & Initial Contributions

[Papama Matsiliza]

Ladies and Gents

We thank Principal Ntakana for the letter. Akholiwe clearly did not invent a phantom school and I'm sure we have a peek into the reality of the education crisis in the Eastern Cape.

I wanted to speak about the initial contribution of R50 we were to make to the fund as founding members. The amount is too small. We use more than R50 on a night out and we can't limit ourselves to such in an attempt to make a lasting investment in the lives of fellow young South Africans.

AS A CHALLENGE TO ALL can we not commit ourselves to a MINIMUM of R300 and those who are willing to exceed the minimum do so freely? If we can't support our own initiative then I don't see why others should. *kindly voice objection or agreement on this matter. Make mention if you feel the minimum should be raised*

The contributions should be paid to the bank account as soon as the trustees make the account details available to us.

Educational regards,
Papama Matsiliza

[Sibongakonke]

Hi all

I will indeed sort out the minutes. In order for me to do so I need more people to state whether or not they agree with the chosen trustees, etc. We have 21/22 group members yet the responses were way less than that.

An update on collections: I've received indications of willingness to donate from people in Cape Town, Kroonstad, Joburg, East London, and PE. I'm sorting out the Cape Town part of it. Nozza's helping me with East London, Kroonstad is posting stuff to me. I need help with Joburg and a possible PE collection please. Another thing; once collected, where do the books go and when? When do they go to the school?

On the contribution: I reckon Akho was correct when she suggested R50. We don't get paid the same salaries and don't have the same responsibilities and/or obligations. I think R50 is a fair amount (that, too, is if one is in a position to pay that amount). Those of us in a position, and wanting to, contribute more are free to do so. Just my thoughts.

Sibongakonke
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[akholiwe ngceba]

Good afternoon all,

 

With regard to the books, Nobusi volunteered for Joburg if I'm not mistaken.

 

The person in PE I know of here is Siphokazi Ximiya, is it possible to do collections for us?

 

All those collecting please keep the books with you until about mid-Feb when we are confident we have a fair amout then we can all post in bulk to EL( exact address to be advised closer to the time). Natassia has offered to collect from EL and take them to the school, as her parents drive between EL and Centane weekly.

 

As far as contributions are concerned I think it is something that can discussed until a consensus is reached.  Maybe increase it slightly to R100? People need to voice their opinions as this is a group initiative and affects us all.

 

Constitution and trustees consensus:

 

I think it will be fine if we have majority, say 15 out of the 22 agreeing electronically.

 

PS:

Those who BBM me my phone is acting up so I cant respond. And also can't access my emails on my phone so my responses will be slow untill the weekend.

 

Regards,

Akholiwe

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The people of God shall be strengthened and shall do great exploits.

[ncebaka...@gmail.com]

Hi All
I agree with the R100 as well cz we really dnt hv the same responsibilities bt I'm we all want to make a contribution as much as possible. As from my side im happy with the chosen trustees.
Regards

[aasobuk...@gmail.com]

Hi all

apologies for the lack of participation, work has taken over my life of late. I am happy with the chosen trustees and the proposed contribution of R50-R100. At the end of the day, this is not a maximum amount... Everyone should be able to donate what they can.

With regards to the study guides, etc that are being collected... Please can someone clarify what exactly these are? Do students normally receive study guides each year? Do they differ from textbooks? I didn't go to school in South Africa, so suspect my idea of what we're looking for differs. Just need a little bit of clarification so I can also be on the same page. thanks.

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[Sibongakonke]

Hey Paps

Did you say useGcuwa? A friend of mine there, eVuli Valley, has some books to donate. Could you pick them up or meet with him to collect them? Let me know.

Sbonga

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Subject: Letter from Tyali & Initial Contributions

[Papama Matsiliza]

Hi Sbonga

Ewe ndiseGcuwa but I leave for Cape Town on Tuesday. I can collect gladly but I don't know how usefully that will be if I'm not here.

Papama

[akholiwe ngceba]

Good morning Cherry,

Study guides are supplementary to the textbook, they are used most in
preparation for tests and exams. Usually have practise questions and
practical work. Most of us that were priveldged to go to schools that
provided them or we afforded to buy them can testify that they are a
great help in getting good practice for exams. Most children at the
school cannot afford to buy these and the textbooks at the school are
not enough for all the learners. So we thought study guides we a great
necessity and the school teacher advised that it was important to get
the children study material so that they can also have an opportunity
to study beyond just in the classroom, as some children have to share
textbooks thus dont have enough time with the book. The teacher said
the the shortage in study guides was so bad that she had to make
copies for the kids from her own study guide as in her class of almost
90 kids only 3 had them last year. The copying in itself was a
challenge as sometimes the machine had problems or there wasnt enough
papers etc.

Also they will be able to prepare for class beforehand, to get better
understanding in class. Textbooks should be provided by the government
and the reason why they are short is becuase of the mess that the
education department is in, in the EC. So in short it is to give the
kids a better chance at passing.

So collections that we are doing for study material from people is of
any textbooks and/or study guides in all subjects. Then with the funds
we raise we are going to buy study guides and depending on the
availability of the funds, see which subjects to focus one. First
prize would be obviously to get all the subjects.

Regards,
Akholiwe

On Jan 26, 6:52 pm, aasobukwewh...@gmail.com wrote:
> Hi all
>
> apologies for the lack of participation, work has taken over my life of late. I am happy with the chosen trustees and the proposed contribution of R50-R100. At the end of the day, this is not a maximum amount... Everyone should be able to donate what they can.
>
> With regards to the study guides, etc that are being collected... Please can someone clarify what exactly these are? Do students normally receive study guides each year? Do they differ from textbooks? I didn't go to school in South Africa, so suspect my idea of what we're looking for differs. Just need a little bit of clarification so I can also be on the same page. thanks.
>
> Sent via my BlackBerry from Vodacom - let your email find you!
>
>
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> On Thu, Jan 26, 2012 at 4:24 PM, Sibongakonke <sibongakon...@gmail.com>wrote:
>
> > Hi all
>
> > I will indeed sort out the minutes. In order for me to do so I need more
> > people to state whether or not they agree with the chosen trustees, etc. We
> > have 21/22 group members yet the responses were way less than that.
>
> > An update on collections: I've received indications of willingness to
> > donate from people in Cape Town, Kroonstad, Joburg, East London, and PE.
> > I'm sorting out the Cape Town part of it. Nozza's helping me with East
> > London, Kroonstad is posting stuff to me. I need help with Joburg and a
> > possible PE collection please. Another thing; once collected, where do the
> > books go and when? When do they go to the school?
>
> > On the contribution: I reckon Akho was correct when she suggested R50. We
> > don't get paid the same salaries and don't have the same responsibilities
> > and/or obligations. I think R50 is a fair amount (that, too, is if one is
> > in a position to pay that amount). Those of us in a position, and wanting
> > to, contribute more are free to do so. Just my thoughts.
>
> > Sibongakonke
> > Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless device
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: "Papama Matsiliza " <pap...@hotmail.com>
> > Sender: ecrur...@googlegroups.com
> > Date: Thu, 26 Jan 2012 14:14:28

> > To: akholiwe ngceba<ak.ngc...@gmail.com>; ecrur...@googlegroups.com<
> > ecrur...@googlegroups.com>; sambulo.matheb...@gmail.com<
> > sambulo.matheb...@gmail.com>; sipokazixim...@gmail.com<
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> > th...@ecsecc.org>; zazi.ndung...@gmail.com<zazi.ndung...@gmail.com>;
> > bonani.olwe...@gmail.com<bonani.olwe...@gmail.com>; amtya...@gmail.com<
> > amtya...@gmail.com>; smjij...@gmail.com<smjij...@gmail.com>;
> > likon...@gmail.com<likon...@gmail.com>; khumz...@yahoo.co.uk<
> > khumz...@yahoo.co.uk>; kalipa.sanelis...@gmail.com<
> > kalipa.sanelis...@gmail.com>; dambi...@gmail.com<dambi...@gmail.com>;
> > papam...@gmail.com<papam...@gmail.com>; cdrsabe...@gmail.com<
> > cdrsabe...@gmail.com>; vmady...@hotmail.co.za<vmady...@hotmail.co.za>;
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> > asa...@gmail.com>
> > Subject: Letter from Tyali & Initial Contributions
>
> > Ladies and Gents
>
> > We thank Principal Ntakana for the letter. Akholiwe clearly did not invent
> > a phantom school and I'm sure we have a peek into the reality of the
> > education crisis in the Eastern Cape.
>
> > I wanted to speak about the initial contribution of R50 we were to make to
> > the fund as founding members. The amount is too small. We use more than R50
> > on a night out and we can't limit ourselves to such in an attempt to make a
> > lasting investment in the lives of fellow young South Africans.
>
> > AS A CHALLENGE TO ALL can we not commit ourselves to a MINIMUM of R300 and
> > those who are willing to exceed the minimum do so freely? If we can't
> > support our own initiative then I don't see why others should. *kindly
> > voice objection or agreement on this matter. Make mention if you feel the
> > minimum should be raised*
>
> > The contributions should be paid to the bank account as soon as the
> > trustees make the account details available to us.
>
> > Educational regards,
> > Papama Matsiliza
>
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