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Sue Butler

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We have an interesting local finding here in Cambridge MA USA.
I planted 10 trees in a 1/4 acre urban lot. There is new grounds water. The water table remains 40' below grade, but the sump pump keeping the cellar dry is now running continuously. 
My downhill neighbors put in a new house. When they installed the foundation they found the ground water was much higher that they had expected. They had to rip out the newly poured foundation and redesign the whole building. Shocking. 
Having done that, they still had too much water in the garden, so they installed a 4' underground cistern to drain ground water to the storm system and the ocean. 
For my property, I'll keep my water on my property as much as I can and I'll drain my sump pump to the high corner and let it drain across the slope of the whole lot. My goal is to keep it out of the sea. 
I welcome thoughts suggestions and responses. 
Thanks, 
Sue

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Wout Hoff <wh...@groasis.com>: Dec 13 07:13AM

Good morning all
 
I came across this article:
https://www.livescience.com/planet-earth/plants/china-has-planted-so-many-trees-its-changed-the-entire-countrys-water-distribution
 
May I ask for peoples views on this?
 
My view was always "more trees is better"
 
Can we predict how rainfall patterns will be affected if we restore
degraded land by planting trees?
 
Kind regards,
 
Wout Hoff
 
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Jellyfishpoetry <jellyfi...@protonmail.com>: Dec 12 08:47PM

Hi,
I think it would be interesting to bring together scientists and eco-restoranists to hash out a research agenda. I created a list of some possible questions https://climatewaterproject.substack.com/p/a-research-programme-for-water-cycle . There's a lot more questions would come up as they got together
 
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rob de laet <robd...@yahoo.com>: Dec 12 06:48PM

Thank you Tom!
Rob de Laet Project Lead Cooling the ClimateMember of the EcoRestoration AllianceFellow of Global Evergreening Alliance
Fellow fo the Schumacher InstitutePlanetary Solvency TaskforceCo-founder of Senang Eco Services
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On Friday, 12 December 2025 at 18:41:39 CET, Tom Goreau <gor...@globalcoral.org> wrote:


Here’s the full paper, enjoy!

 

 

 

From:rob de laet <robd...@yahoo.com>
Date: Thursday, December 11, 2025 at 21:20
To: Carbon Dioxide Removal <carbondiox...@googlegroups.com>, Tom Goreau <gor...@globalcoral.org>
Cc: healthy-planet-action-coalition <healthy-planet-...@googlegroups.com>, EcoRestoration Alliance <ecorestorat...@googlegroups.com>, Anastassia Makarieva <ammak...@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Getting too hot for Amazonian CDR and transpiration

Hi Tom, 

 

thank you. Can't see the article behind the payroll, but from a hydrological cooling standpoint 2100 is very optimistic as this study on “hot droughts” in the central Amazon shows how narrow the safety margin of the forest already is: once soil moisture drops past a critical threshold, transpiration collapses, tree mortality spikes and the system is pushed toward dieback under a projected “hypertropical” climate ''by 2100''. But by focusing mainly on climate scenarios and stand-level mortality, it actually understates the riskfrom the full biotic pump feedback of deforestation, fire, and moisture recycling breakdown, which means that from a risk management perspective the Amazon is already deep inside the tipping zone and there is a real chance that the dieback will occur in years, rather than decades with unfatomable fires, stretching for hundreds kilometers and more. The spikes of global temperatures in 2023 and 2024 are in large parts connected to the droughts in the Amazon and Congo, but still not recognized as such by mainstream climate science. Current slow and incremental measures to protect this vital planetary organ are completely irrational: we are playing with fire. Our proposal to “pay everyone in the forest” through the ARARA platform is precisely a basin-scale, finance-backed mechanism designed to stop this madness: channeling large, predictable flows of capital to Indigenous peoples, smallholders, and local enterprises to protect remaining forest, restore degraded land into high-evapotranspiration vegetation that produces food and restores the water cycles to keep the biotic pump functioning and with that the largest cooling and rehydrating organ of or living planet. Who will embrace our solution at the scale and speed needed? Where is the will of humanity to not kill its future within the next decades?

 

Best, 

 

Rob de Laet 

Project Lead Cooling the Climate

Member of the EcoRestoration Alliance

Fellow of Global Evergreening Alliance

Fellow fo the Schumacher Institute

Planetary Solvency Taskforce

Co-founder of Senang Eco Services

WhatsApp: +55 71 992617846

 

 

 

 

 

 

On Friday, 12 December 2025 at 00:26:34 CET, Tom Goreau <gor...@globalcoral.org> wrote:

 

 

- Article

- Published: 10 December 2025

Hot droughts in the Amazon provide a window to a future hypertropical climate

- Jeffrey Q. Chambers, 
- Adriano José Nogueira Lima, 
- Gilberto Pastorello, 
- Bruno Oliva Gimenez, 
- Lin Meng, 
- Lee A. Dyer, 
- Yanlei Feng, 
- Cristina Santos da Silva, 
- Regison Costa de Oliveira, 
- Anna Weber, 
- Charlie Koven, 
- Robinson Negrón-Juárez, 
- Gustavo C. Spanner, 
- Tatiana D. Gaui, 
- Clarissa G. Fontes, 
- Alessandro C. de Araújo, 
- Nate McDowell, 
- Ruby Leung, 
- Daniel Magnabosco Marra, 
- Jeffrey Warren, 
- Daisy Celestina Souza, 
- Cynthia Wright, 
- Kolby Jardine, 
- Marcos Longo, 

- …

- Niro Higuchi 

Show authors

Nature (2025)

Abstract

Tropical forests represent the warmest and wettest of Earth’s biomes, but with continued anthropogenic warming, they will be pushed to climate states with no current analogue1,2. Droughts in the tropics are already becoming more intense as they occur at successively higher temperatures3,4,5. Here we synthesize multiple datasets to assess the effects of hot droughts on a central Amazon forest. First, a more than 30-year record of annually resolved forest demographic data from a selective logging experiment showed higher tree mortality during intense droughts, particularly among fast-growing pioneer species with low wood density. Second, analysis of ecophysiological field measurements from the 2015 and 2023 El Niño droughts identified a soil moisture threshold beyond which transpiration rates rapidly declined. As rainless days beyond this threshold continued, drought conditions intensified, increasing the potential for tree mortality from hydraulic failure and carbon starvation. Third, analyses from the Coupled Model Intercomparison Project Phase 6 demonstrated that under high-emission scenarios, a large area of tropical forest will shift to a hotter ‘hypertropical’ climate by 2100. Last, under a hypertropical climate, temperature and moisture conditions during typical dry season months will more frequently exceed identified drought mortality thresholds, elevating the risk of forest dieback. Present-day hot droughts are harbingers of this emerging climate, offering a window for studying tropical forests under expected extreme future conditions6,7,8.
Sally Dodge <sally...@comcast.net>: Dec 12 09:25AM -0500

At the same time they are encouraging the use of PFAS and Dicamba on agricultural fields.
 
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