climate chat on clouds and climate sensitivity

[rob de laet]

Hello Everybody, 

Happy New Year and Best Wishes for 2025! 

Please check out this theme. Global Warming partly caused by diminished cloud cover and that realization is slowly trickling through in mainstream climate science. Below you find the link to a YouTube talk about it tomorrow. 

Anastassia Makarieva showed us in a recent blog the anomalies cause by droughts in the Amazon rainforest. It is clear that less clouds in the equatorial zone has a larger effect on the Earth Energy Imbalance:

Global Warming➔Fewer Clouds➔More Warming! with George Tselioudis

Global Warming➔Fewer Clouds➔More Warming! with George Tselioudis

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[Jon Schull]

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[Rob Lewis]

Thanks for the heads up, Jon. I missed this, but hopefully someone watched. It would be interesting to see to what degree the lack of low-clouds is tied to land degradation. Anastassia pointed out a study that explores the matter without ever mentioning forests, the amazon, the biosphere...any of it. This seems true for reaction to the global heat anomaly at large, all the modellers scratching their heads as the ecosystems dry up, "gosh, wonder why it got so hot."

Rob L.

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[mhau...@gmail.com]

Just under 90 minutes, understandable at 1.5x   https://www.youtube.com/live/suFZb2ViHoA

 

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[Judith D. Schwartz]

I watched it, maybe 70 minutes. There was no discussion of the role of biology in the formation of clouds. I do plan to reach out to the author to inquire about this.

On Jan 5, 2025, at 6:00 PM, <mhau...@gmail.com> <mhau...@gmail.com> wrote:

Just under 90 minutes, understandable at 1.5x   https://www.youtube.com/live/suFZb2ViHoA

 

Mk

 

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Thanks for the heads up, Jon. I missed this, but hopefully someone watched. It would be interesting to see to what degree the lack of low-clouds is tied to land degradation. Anastassia pointed out a study that explores the matter without ever mentioning forests, the amazon, the biosphere...any of it. This seems true for reaction to the global heat anomaly at large, all the modellers scratching their heads as the ecosystems dry up, "gosh, wonder why it got so hot."

Rob L.

 

 

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On Sun, Jan 5, 2025 at 3:07 AM 'rob de laet' via EcoRestoration Alliance <ecorestorat...@googlegroups.com> wrote:

Hello Everybody, 

 

Happy New Year and Best Wishes for 2025! 

 

Please check out this theme. Global Warming partly caused by diminished cloud cover and that realization is slowly trickling through in mainstream climate science. Below you find the link to a YouTube talk about it tomorrow. 

 

Anastassia Makarieva showed us in a recent blog the anomalies cause by droughts in the Amazon rainforest. It is clear that less clouds in the equatorial zone has a larger effect on the Earth Energy Imbalance:

 

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[rob de laet]

Amazing and disappointing! Great that you go after the authors Judith, please include Anastassia's great find on low cloud anomalies. 

I don't know where we could get more data about this, e.g. per month to tie them even closer to the droughts in the Amazon and here you also see evidence of the link between the Congo and the Amazon!

Best, 

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[Rob Lewis]

Thanks Judith and Rob for your attention to this. It will be interesting to hear what sort of response you get, Judith. Keep us posted

It makes me think of how the storms in Valencia, smack dab in the middle of Millan's study area, were reported on as a purely CO2 event, with no mention of Millan or his findings anywhere. As Millan often said, when it comes to climate and land/water interactions, the modellers "just can't see it."

Rob L.