Reminder: Special ERA Master Class tomorrow (Wed) 9AM ET) ,moderated by Phoebe Barnard and Leonard Iyamurere
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Jon Schull
Mar 18, 2025, 7:10:02 PMMar 18
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1. Envisioning Ecological Civilizations (in the plural): What's possible and achievable by 2050? And how do we get there from here, in these headwinds, at this crossroads of civilization? Invitation to a MasterClass with 5 stalwart leaders of the global ecosystem restoration movement: 🧵
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Jon Schull
Mar 19, 2025, 11:20:05 AMMar 19
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Thanks to all who participated today!
Here is the recording, transcript and chat from today's meeting. (The chat appears on the right after a few seconds; click a chat to play the video context.)
https://fathom.video/share/8FMPzU-SGoe3phszNqWocaRQScEx-u6z
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Jon Schull
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Thanks again for attending today's Master Class!Here is the recording, transcript and chat from today's meeting. https://fathom.video/share/8FMPzU-SGoe3phszNqWocaRQScEx-u6z
If you'd like to become a member of the ERA, visit https://www.ecorestorationalliance.org/engageIf you'd like to become a supporter, https://www.ecorestorationalliance.org/donate
Michael Pilarksi points out that the fathom's chat rendering in fathom is loaded with repetitions. So here it is unadulterated.
08:57:59 From Mark Haubner to Everyone:I'll be in Listen-Only mode today, thank you.Phoebe Barnard, Global Restoration Collaborative:ЁЯСНЁЯП╜08:59:38 From Leonard IYAMUREMYE to Jon Schull, EcoRestoration Alliance (direct message):will you remember make us co-host to facilitate you ,just in case!09:04:23 From John Dennis Liu to Everyone:I actually in Heidelberg, GermanyPhoebe Barnard, Global Restoration Collaborative:ЁЯСНЁЯП╜09:04:52 From Sara Scherr, EcoAgriculture Partnerse to Everyone:Good morning everyone! it would be great if you can introduce yourselves in the chat.09:05:11 From Aude P├йronne to Everyone:Hello everyone. Happy to see you all09:05:33 From Kim M. to Everyone:Good morning from Canada. ЁЯНБ09:05:51 From Mike Lynn to Everyone:Hello everyone.Mike Lynn from Chesapeake Bay areaMOSES, GFCCA:тЭдя╕П09:06:08 From Jon Schull, EcoRestoration Alliance to Everyone:Greetings! Full name, place, and/or linkedin page?Phoebe Barnard, Global Restoration Collaborative:тЭдя╕П09:06:22 From Peter Paap to Everyone:Hey all, greetings from Holland!Phoebe Barnard, Global Restoration Collaborative:тЭдя╕П09:06:30 From Miriam Holmeide to Everyone:Hi everyone, Miriam from NorwayPhoebe Barnard, Global Restoration Collaborative:тЭдя╕П09:06:33 From Jim Wilson to Everyone:Good morning from Napa CaliforniaPhoebe Barnard, Global Restoration Collaborative:тЭдя╕П09:06:36 From robert patterson to Everyone:Greetings to all from Guadalajara! This is Robert, from www.thegrowigconnection.com & www.ecohuerto.mx.09:06:50 From Michael Haupt, Cape Town to Everyone:Saying hello from a living laboratory of 25,000 denizens in a remote mountain area 90mins from Cape Town, South Africa.Phoebe Barnard, Global Restoration Collaborative:тЭдя╕П09:07:11 From Ananda Fitzsimmons to Everyone:Ananda Fitzsimmons, Canada, author and Board member of ERA + Regeneration CanadaLeonard IYAMUREMYE:тЭдя╕П09:07:35 From Mark Haubner to Everyone:Mark Haubner, Long Island, New York, US, last farming region in the Peconic Bioregion among 6 million people.09:07:37 From Ir Marius to Everyone:Marius Iragi, from Nakivale Refugee Camp/UgandaPhoebe Barnard, Global Restoration Collaborative:тЭдя╕П09:07:38 From Dushime Ange Leo clevis to Everyone:Hi, I am Ange Leo Clevis DUSHIME an environmental activist from University of Rwanda College of Science and Technology Kigali Rwanda.Phoebe Barnard, Global Restoration Collaborative:тЭдя╕П09:07:43 From Victoria Zelin to Everyone:Victoria Zelin-Cloud, Possible Planet, Rochester, NYPhoebe Barnard, Global Restoration Collaborative:тЭдя╕П09:08:00 From Robin Chazdon to Everyone:Robin Chazdon, Assisted Natural Regeneration Alliance (WRI Senior Fellow), & Forest Research Institute, University of the Sunshine Coast; https://www.linkedin.com/in/robin-chazdon-96218a59/Phoebe Barnard, Global Restoration Collaborative:тЭдя╕П09:08:32 From Philip Bogdonoff to Everyone:Philip Bogdonoff, President of the Board of Biodiversity for a Livable Climate, and co-founder with Jon of the ERA. I am based just outside of Washington DC.Phoebe Barnard, Global Restoration Collaborative:ЁЯСНЁЯП╜09:08:43 From MOSES, GFCCA to Everyone:Moses Ojunju-Kenya.Representing the Global Foundation for Climate Change Africa (gfccafrica.org). Working with small-holder farmers on regenerative agriculture and introducing carbon credits removal initiative within our Agroforestry model.Phoebe Barnard, Global Restoration Collaborative:тЭдя╕П09:09:07 From Gayathri Ilango to Everyone:Hello Everyone, Gayathri from USAPhoebe Barnard, Global Restoration Collaborative:тЭдя╕П09:09:10 From Gayathri Ilango to Everyone:Phoebe Barnard, Global Restoration Collaborative:ЁЯСНЁЯП╜09:09:11 From Kim M. to Everyone:Climatecrisisclub.orgPhoebe Barnard, Global Restoration Collaborative:ЁЯСНЁЯП╜09:09:47 From Helen regenerativelaw.com to Everyone:IтАЩve been concerned that this isnтАЩt really тАЬcollapseтАЭ into chaos but a collapse into containment in a low dimensional reality from which superpositional intelligence will no longer imaginable and thus future potential will be erased before it can be in*formed.Donna Nelham-Unstitution Founder:ЁЯСНSebnem Rusitschka:ЁЯТб09:11:53 From Helen regenerativelaw.com to Everyone:Replying to "IтАЩve been concerned that this isnтАЩt really тАЬcollap...":Helen Holden Slottje here - greater Boston area - тАЬRegenerative LawтАЭFlip Town, Donna Nelham-Unstitution Founder:тЭдя╕П09:13:11 From MOSES, GFCCA to Everyone:Phoebe Barnard, Global Restoration Collaborative:ЁЯСНЁЯП╜09:13:49 From robert patterson to Everyone:тАЬTrustтАЭ - a five-letter word for loveтАж.Aude P├йronne, Helen regenerativelaw.com:тЭдя╕ПPhoebe Barnard, Global Restoration Collaborative:ЁЯСНЁЯП╜09:14:09 From Peter Paap to Everyone:Without a rights for nature approach, our mindset will not change enoughPhoebe Barnard:ЁЯСНЁЯП╜09:15:38 From Peter Paap to Everyone:And that within a global wide ecological networkPhoebe Barnard:тЭдя╕П09:15:38 From Donna Nelham-Unstitution Founder to Everyone:Hi all! Glad to join here today! Tuning in from OntarioтАжthe Greater Kingston area, on the traditional homeland of the Anishinaabe, Haudenosaunee and the Huron-Wendat.Helen regenerativelaw.com, Phoebe Barnard:тЭдя╕ПKim M.:ЁЯШК09:16:24 From Leonard IYAMUREMYE to Everyone:I am Leonard...from Rwanda. ERA Socials and coordinating Africa focus group https://www.linkedin.com/in/leonard-iyamuremye-3b3050144/?lipi=urn%3Ali%3Apage%3Ad_flagship3_notifications%3BTvazlGSjSy2Ov3Gqrp9TwQ%3D%3DPhoebe Barnard, Global Restoration Collaborative:тЭдя╕П09:16:27 From Donna Nelham-Unstitution Founder to Everyone:A poignant poem that Vanessa Andreotti shared in a recent sessionтАжтАЬLanding with the land differently тАФ an invitation,тАЭ illustrates how a poem can reach us more deeply and powerfully, setting the context and tone for deeper embodied ways we can choose to co-navigate, breaking the spells, and helping to dispel myths that maintain engrained patterns.тАЬBreaking ModernityтАЩs Spells: A Methodology for Naming the Shenanigans and Landing Differently, excavates further.тАЭPhoebe Barnard, Global Restoration Collaborative:тЭдя╕П09:16:46 From Aude P├йronne to Everyone:An article I wrote on Ecosystem Stewardship : https://www.grassrootseconomics.org/ecosystem-stewardshipMike Lynn, Blessings Mlowoka, Donna Nelham-Unstitution Founder:ЁЯСПKim M.:ЁЯШК09:17:35 From John to Everyone:Hope through action!Kim M.:ЁЯШК09:18:31 From Blessings Mlowoka to Everyone:We have to build trust and work together Global North and South. In addition to that need to intensify collabolation and networks. Gone are the days that one moves alone to push things. Create consotiums with people and communities on the ground.Last thing ,wanted to add is that local NGOs capacity is most of the time not good and yet also some International NGOs do not work with them. I have in mind in Malawi, We have one Local NGO which started some concept on Forest garden but later International NGO came and hijacked and implemented the interventions. When they left, it was collapsed. So we also need to have sustainability strategy. Sorry my mic has a problem can't talk.Sophia Watkins:ЁЯЩМ09:18:33 From Kim M. to Everyone:ЁЯСН09:19:39 From Sara Scherr, EcoAgriculture Partnerse to Everyone:Jon--your local Regeneration Hubs are what I am calling our 'Landscape Partnership" or others call Bioregional Community. Let's bridge among us!Jon Schull, EcoRestoration Alliance:ЁЯСНЁЯП╝09:19:45 From Peter Paap to Everyone:Not democracy, but capitalism is the problem09:23:22 From Sophia Watkins to Everyone:Who was introduced as a leader in a youth farming program in rwanda?Would be great to connect with you!09:24:12 From Peter Paap to Everyone:Or we curb population and let nature do its stuff09:26:49 From Donna Nelham-Unstitution Founder to Everyone:++@Phoebe Barnard and cultivating the enabling conditions for тАЬtrustтАЭ within the context of the ongoing imperative тАЬworkтАЭ as @John Dennis Liu articulatedтАж09:27:15 From Michael Haupt, Cape Town to Everyone:Very well said, Sara.Donna Nelham-Unstitution Founder:ЁЯСН09:29:29 From Robin Chazdon to Everyone:Can we discuss how to do what Sara is suggesting? How to effectively reach people outside of our bubble? It seems that media are increasingly polarized and there is no middle ground for communication that is not seen as propaganda.Phoebe Barnard, Global Restoration Collaborative, Philip Bogdonoff, Aude P├йronne:тЭдя╕П09:30:03 From Phoebe Barnard, Global Restoration Collaborative to Everyone:Replying to "Can we discuss how to do what Sara is suggesting? ...":Yes, weтАЩre getting on to that, and IтАЩd love if you could elaborate on that in the discussion too09:30:15 From Peter Gubbels Groundswell-West Africa to Everyone:May I suggest that the "messages" need to be highly tailored to different contexts, relating to people's socio-cultural perceptions. This fits in more with the Local Regeneration Hubs. Very different messaging for West AFrica, compared to Europe to North America.09:30:35 From Donna Nelham-Unstitution Founder to Everyone:Really appreciate @Aude P├йronne bringing up this discussion of тАЬcollapseтАЭ and how to co-navigate in ways that inspireтАжthat is not a denial of the collapse that is underwayтАжand yet there is a larger, wider perspective!!Phoebe Barnard, Global Restoration Collaborative:тЭдя╕П09:30:44 From Jon Schull, EcoRestoration Alliance to Everyone:тАЬWithout nature, we perish.With nature, we thriveтАЭKim M.:ЁЯСН09:30:58 From Beth Kaplin to Everyone:Replying to "IтАЩve been concerned that this isnтАЩt really тАЬcollap...":We need actions to make change. Seeing how the last US elections played out I see we need a kind of MAGA movement for the environment, we need to capture peoples hearts and minds from where they are - people are on social media in the wealthy countries especially and I think we need a movement to make people passsiinate and even angry and demanding a socially and ecologically just world. How d o we develop that? The global north Phoebe just mentioned - there we need to targetDushime Ange Leo clevis:тЭдя╕П09:31:20 From Kim M. to Everyone:Save Nature. Save ourselves.Jon Schull, EcoRestoration Alliance, Kim M.:ЁЯСНЁЯП╝09:31:31 From Dan to Everyone:Tax the RichHelen regenerativelaw.com:тЭдя╕ПKim M.:ЁЯША09:31:52 From Peter Paap to Everyone:Like 'greening up to cool down"?Kim M.:ЁЯША09:33:17 From Jon Schull, EcoRestoration Alliance to Everyone:тАЬNature cools.тАЭKim M.:ЁЯШК09:33:18 From Helen regenerativelaw.com to Everyone:Replying to "IтАЩve been concerned that this isnтАЩt really тАЬcollap...":People need a vision - which is what Phoebe is pointing towards - one with attractive (magnetic) frequency resonance beyond enclosure. Finding language that expresses what lies beyond our cognitive boundaries that fits into the very language that is based in separation is THE TRICK.09:33:43 From Beth Kaplin to Everyone:We need a kind of MAGA movement for social and environmental justice, meet people where they are to get our messages out - social media etc to get people passionate and even angry about these issues09:34:04 From Kim M. to Everyone:Think Green. Eat Green. Be Green.09:34:16 From Beth Kaplin to Everyone:IтАЩm talking about more action, not only talking to each other, esp global north09:34:19 From Peter Paap to Everyone:Is there a BTOR for the trip?09:34:28 From Phoebe Barnard, Global Restoration Collaborative to Everyone:Replying to "I actually in Heidelberg, Germany":Right - I remembered that just as I was saying Beijing, sigh!09:34:47 From Helen regenerativelaw.com to Everyone:Replying to "We need a kind of MAGA movement for social and env...":A kind of MAGA movement - the trouble is that FEAR drives people in one direction (and that is the Maga movement) Love and safety attracts people in a different way, The TRICK is finding ways to attract that are NOT FEAR BASED.09:34:54 From Kim M. to Everyone:Love the Earth.09:35:04 From Alexander Russell to Everyone:I've done some work on messaging. I don't think this is a hugely challenging nut to crack. Using phrases like "super natural" (playing on the idea that nature is already divine, but also the individual humans involved as little superheroes) and bringing back the fairytale/myth landscapes that all regions worldwide have (even Europe: temperate rainforests are still very familiar as a fictional landscape in children's stories). Please write to me if you want to discuss this subject: futurepr...@gmail.com +447985689278Beth Kaplin:ЁЯСМ09:35:08 From Jon Schull, EcoRestoration Alliance to Everyone:The тАЬBack to Office ReportтАЭ is coming soon (from Ananda Fitzimmon)09:35:11 From Kim M. to Everyone:Love you Mother. Love each other.09:35:15 From Phoebe Barnard, Global Restoration Collaborative to Everyone:Replying to "Good morning from Napa California":Thank you Jim for being here!09:35:58 From Peter Gubbels Groundswell-West Africa to Everyone:In terms of messaging, my experience (as a practitioner) in the context of West AFrica is "start where people are", "scratch where people itch". Ask good questions, LISTEN, and this builds the trust required for collective action.Alexander Russell, Blessings Mlowoka, Philip Bogdonoff:ЁЯСН09:36:05 From Kim M. to Everyone:One planet. One Health.09:36:31 From Arjan Conijn to Everyone:Respect all livingKim M.:ЁЯСН09:37:05 From Kim M. to Everyone:Replying to "Respect all living":I like, but needs more detail.09:37:41 From Jon Schull, EcoRestoration Alliance to Kim M. (direct message):These are great, Kim. I donтАЩt weтАЩve met. Can I get your contact/linkedin ?09:38:00 From Alexander Russell to Everyone:Replying to "In terms of messaging, my experience (as a practit...":Completely agree. I've had the same experience in all kinds of sectors, from ESG research teams in the financial sector to nature based pest management for local authorities...09:38:32 From Peter Gubbels Groundswell-West Africa to Everyone:In terms of indigenous knowledge, there are many cultures that have local proverbs and also local institutions (ways of working and thinking) that are conducive to restoration. Need to find these.Phoebe Barnard, Global Restoration Collaborative:тЭдя╕П09:39:09 From Ananda Fitzsimmons to Everyone:My internet is pretty unstable right now.09:39:36 From Didi Pershouse to Everyone:The message probably isn't conveyable with words alone. Getting people outside, barefoot, feeling the difference in temperature between pavement and grass. Playing with infrared thermometers. Blowing air and pouring water on flour --as unhealthy soil-- vs bread as healthy soil to show how soil structure and function can address flooding, drought, erosion, water quality, air quality, wildfire, food production, groundwater recharge, etc etc etcKim M.:ЁЯСН09:39:42 From Dhruv Chanana to Everyone:Well said Aude09:39:49 From John Dennis Liu to Everyone:We can be in Service of Functional Ecosystems09:40:12 From Kim M. to Jon Schull, EcoRestoration Alliance (direct message):Replying to "These are great, Kim. I donтАЩt weтАЩve met. Can I g...":I am actually not on linked in. I run the climatecrisisclub.org website, which is under development. Thank you.ЁЯЩП09:40:16 From Jim R to Everyone:I like the idea of restoration camps. Pull in people for 1 week volunteer gig.Leonard IYAMUREMYE:тЭдя╕ПKim M.:ЁЯСН09:41:18 From Helen regenerativelaw.com to Everyone:Replying to "The message probably isn't conveyable with words a...":Yes, my experience has been that people need to FEEL something, have an experience of тАЬCommunitasтАЭ and this opens up imagination and the ability to to conceive beyond the containment field (a quantum dampening and interference pattern that seeks to collapse us into тАЬcertaintyтАЭ and тАЬsafetyтАЭ of binaries that are really just low res versions of reality that are painful - due to lack of connection and dampened energetic exchange09:42:55 From Peter Paap to Everyone:We could, we should... ok, but what do we do?!09:43:29 From Peter Paap to Everyone:Magic truffles?Aude P├йronne, Helen regenerativelaw.com:ЁЯШВ09:43:55 From John Hepworth to Everyone:Attraction not promotion is a phrase I like - by BEING examples of sustainable, sane, livingPhoebe Barnard, Global Restoration Collaborative, Helen regenerativelaw.com:тЭдя╕ПMyra Jackson:ЁЯжЛ09:44:02 From Dhruv Chanana to Everyone:That pill can be faith ЁЯЩВPhoebe Barnard, Global Restoration Collaborative:ЁЯСНЁЯП╜09:44:03 From Aude P├йronne to Everyone:To go dig swales together!Phoebe Barnard, Global Restoration Collaborative:ЁЯСНЁЯП╜09:44:24 From Peter Paap to Everyone:Faith in what?09:45:10 From Dhruv Chanana to Everyone:Replying to "Faith in what?":Faith in abundance and contentment, faith in othersHelen regenerativelaw.com:тЭдя╕П09:46:28 From Jim R to Everyone:Will there be a replay link?09:46:33 From Didi Pershouse to Everyone:And you can map all those groups that Sara is talking about in terms of how much power they have.Phoebe Barnard, Global Restoration Collaborative:тЭдя╕П09:46:51 From Jon Schull, EcoRestoration Alliance to Jim R (direct message):yes09:47:02 From Donna Nelham-Unstitution Founder to Everyone:Been in ongoing conversations with @Helen regenerativelaw.com as well, who is here today. Hi Helen! Think we all recognize how western-dominated colonizing patterns underlie the degenerative trajectory. This has influenced тАЬnarrow-boundaryтАЭ binary polarizing ways of тАЬsolutioningтАЭ that box people in. The examples and stories shared here point to the grassroots ways whereby people live into life-affirming ways with Indigenous wisdom, science etcтАжAND-ANDтАжA dance of emergence AND strategy.Phoebe Barnard, Global Restoration Collaborative:тЭдя╕ПHelen regenerativelaw.com:ЁЯТГ09:47:42 From Peter Paap to Everyone:Replying to "Faith in what?":Is there a mapping of enemies and opponents?Phoebe Barnard, Global Restoration Collaborative:ЁЯСНЁЯП╜09:47:45 From Helen regenerativelaw.com to Everyone:Replying to "Been in ongoing conversations with @Helen regenera...":Well said Donna тАФ as ever!! AND AND AND !!!!Donna Nelham-Unstitution Founder:тЭдя╕П09:48:35 From Dhruv Chanana to Everyone:Replying to "Faith in what?":It only through faith or spirituality that we can change and enemy into an friendPhoebe Barnard, Global Restoration Collaborative:ЁЯСНЁЯП╜09:48:50 From Alexander Russell to Everyone:Replying to "In terms of indigenous knowledge, there are many c...":That's a very good point... I'm in contact with a few trusted channels into these communities, I'd be happy to get in touch with you and explore this avenue. Write to me on futurepr...@gmail.com or +44798568927809:49:03 From Phoebe Barnard, Global Restoration Collaborative to Everyone:Replying to "Faith in what?":@Peter Paap thanks for volunteering!09:49:08 From Donna Nelham-Unstitution Founder to Everyone:20250319094905.jpgHelen regenerativelaw.com:тЭдя╕П09:49:11 From Peter Paap to Everyone:Replying to "Faith in what?":And the direct target groups of all projectsDhruv Chanana :ЁЯСН09:49:32 From Didi Pershouse to Everyone:Over a million farmers in Andhra Pradesh India, for exampleLeonard IYAMUREMYE:тЭдя╕П09:50:01 From Peter Paap to Everyone:Replying to "Faith in what?":@Phoebe Barnard, Global Restoration Collaborative volunteers offer themselves... they are not appointed...Phoebe Barnard, Global Restoration Collaborative:ЁЯШК09:50:25 From Peter Paap to Everyone:Replying to "Faith in what?":Put m in the chat?09:50:48 From Sara Scherr, EcoAgriculture Partnerse to Everyone:A per what Skeeter is saying, EcoAgriculture Partners and the Landscapes for People, FOod and Nature initiative documented a decade ago 450 large landscape partnerships on four continents. There are vastly more now. I think we could pool our databses and get to that dimension of action. Also, isn't the UN Decade for Ecosystem Resotration also compiling info on projects?Katie Fettes, Alexander Russell:ЁЯСН09:51:04 From Katie Fettes to Everyone:Blessed Unrest by Paul Hawken charts this movement (up to 2008)Robin Chazdon, Alexander Russell:ЁЯСН09:51:24 From Philip Bogdonoff to Everyone:See ERA's https://bigmaptosavethefuture.net/Alexander Russell:тЭдя╕П09:51:29 From Peter Paap to Everyone:Replying to "Faith in what?":Skeeter?09:52:41 From Robin Chazdon to Everyone:How do (or even should we) draw the boundaries of тАЬthe movement?тАЭ No boundaries could invite chaos into the movement.09:52:47 From Alexander Russell to Everyone:Question: what do the speakers feel about big biodiversity data platforms and metrics like RESTOR, the SEED Biocomplexity index etc? Is it just hot air, a waste of resources, or can it help with the challenges you've each mentioned?09:53:29 From Jim Wilson to Everyone:Replying to "Good morning from Napa California":Good to see you, Phoebe!09:53:40 From Jon Schull, EcoRestoration Alliance to Peter Paap (direct message):09:53:58 From Fliptown to Everyone:We are Fliptown.TRUSTED AND ROOTED IN COMMUNITY.A PEOPLE INFORMATION RESOURCES EXCHANGE NETWORKWe are a youth-led ubuntu Decentralized Autonomous Organization collectively owned, actively run and managed┬аby its community members also called the Flippers,┬аpassionate individuals and families committed to regeneration practices, responsible use of information, technology, and IT skills to promote local ingenuity, talents, environmental sustainability, health, heritage and value exchange. At the heart of our philosophy is the principle of intergenerational equity, which means that we strive to develop sustainable ecological, social, and economic tools that benefit both present and future generations.09:54:23 From Alexander Russell to Everyone:RESTOR now lists 220 000 land based conservation, restoration, etc projects worldwide.Jon Schull, EcoRestoration Alliance, Philip Bogdonoff, Katie Fettes:ЁЯСНЁЯП╝09:55:01 From Helen regenerativelaw.com to Everyone:Replying to "How do (or even should we) draw the boundaries of ...":I have been exploring boundaries based on resonance/frequency instead of boundaries based on control and enforcementтАж. Boundaries on coherence are self organizing (to the extent not subject to interference/dampening waves from the dominator/predatory system) тАж.Dhruv Chanana :ЁЯСНMyra Jackson:ЁЯжЛ09:55:26 From Phoebe Barnard, Global Restoration Collaborative to Everyone:Replying to "Will there be a replay link?":Yes! And good to see you here too, Jim!09:55:28 From Donna Nelham-Unstitution Founder to Everyone:Many here may be aware of Will RuddickтАЩs book Grassroots Economics. Sharing my LinkedIn Repost with reflections on why this is also an important building block. Recognizing that there is no one answer/approach to the range of challenges being discussedтАжhowever we can discern enabling, adaptive тАЬbuilding blocks.тАЭ https://www.linkedin.com/posts/donna-nelham-65091145_grassroots-economics-the-book-is-out-activity-7292489569692696576-nAXY?utm_source=share&utm_medium=member_desktop&rcm=ACoAAAmRV1wBqCA5ueIcMH5rymWWeNs2Tj9swt4John Hepworth, Helen regenerativelaw.com:тЭдя╕П09:57:19 From Doris Brevoort to Everyone:Hello and thank you, from Doris Brevoort, today in Ithaca N YPhoebe Barnard, Global Restoration Collaborative:тЭдя╕П09:57:42 From Phoebe Barnard, Global Restoration Collaborative to Everyone:Replying to "Hello and thank you, from Doris Brevoort, today in...":Hello Doris! Thanks for joining!09:57:50 From John Hepworth to Everyone:Covid showed how quickly things can change. I truly believe the hunger for sanity is everywhere, and that showing people what it looks like AND how they can have it for themselves is the way forward.Alexander Russell, Myra Jackson:тЭдя╕П09:58:25 From Jon Schull, EcoRestoration Alliance to John Dennis Liu (direct message):I de-videoed you just because you were breaking up and were telling a really important story. Where can I learn more about the Chinese тАЬmethodologyтАЭ?09:58:38 From Didi Pershouse to Everyone:Hi Peter, the best place to learn more is the interviews with Vijay Kumar and Swati Renduchintala at my substack https://open.substack.com/pub/didipershouse/p/vijay-kumar-how-poor-rural-women?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android&r=exs1r09:59:51 From Peter Gubbels Groundswell-West Africa to Everyone:Thanks Didi...I will come back to this experience and Vijay/Swati's leadership and strategy later when we get to discussion.09:59:54 From Didi Pershouse to Everyone:10:00:08 From Robin Chazdon to Everyone:Showing is another important way of communication10:00:21 From Aude P├йronne to Everyone:Dhruv Chanana , Donna Nelham-Unstitution Founder, Doris Brevoort:ЁЯСНMike Lynn, Doris Brevoort:ЁЯСП10:00:32 From Peter Gubbels Groundswell-West Africa to Everyone:Fully agree Robin10:00:54 From John Hepworth to Everyone:I love the Grassroots Economics book (not quite finished) but REALLY interested in seeing how it could work in URBAN settings. SO much unemployment, underemploymentтАж10:00:59 From Beth Kaplin to Everyone:Replying to "In terms of indigenous knowledge, there are many c...":I will10:02:10 From Dhruv Chanana to Everyone:Gotta go, Thank you for a very insightful session.Phoebe Barnard, Global Restoration Collaborative:тЭдя╕П10:02:26 From Phoebe Barnard, Global Restoration Collaborative to Everyone:Replying to "Gotta go, Thank you for a very insightful session.":Thanks Dhruv10:02:33 From Aude P├йronne to Everyone:Replying to "I love the Grassroots Economics book (not quite fi...":Happy to talk about this if you want . You can contact me if you want odeap...@gmail.com. We are ourselves living and engaged in a peri-urban context10:02:34 From Donna Nelham-Unstitution Founder to Everyone:Also recognizing the inherent paradoxes that we are also dancing withтАжin terms of the ways we aim to advance тАЬmovementsтАЭтАжwith deep humilityтАж.not as masters of the universeтАж.working WITH ecological life patterns and ways of beingтАжAND activating what we can DOтАжthat is place-sourced.Helen regenerativelaw.com:тЭдя╕П10:03:07 From John Dennis Liu to Everyone:Dear Friends: All the best to you all. I must sadly go off for a Board meeting.Phoebe Barnard, Global Restoration Collaborative, John Hepworth:тЭдя╕П10:03:27 From Phoebe Barnard, Global Restoration Collaborative to Everyone:Replying to "Dear Friends: All the best to you all. I must sa...":Thank you so much JDL!10:04:36 From Donna Nelham-Unstitution Founder to Everyone:202503191004350000.jpgHelen regenerativelaw.com:тЭдя╕П10:04:40 From Robin Chazdon to Everyone:What are the key leverage points? Certainly communities, but we need to go beyond this level.10:04:44 From Mike Lynn to Everyone:Replying to "Dear Friends: All the best to you all. I must sa...":Thank you John10:05:36 From Sara Scherr, EcoAgriculture Partnerse to Everyone:ERA organizers --Please do include the chat messages in the notes from this meeting.10:05:41 From Helen regenerativelaw.com to Everyone:Replying to "Hello and thank you, from Doris Brevoort, today in...":Hi Doris - I lived in Ithaca for 20 years (and was involved in the fracking fight locally). Nice to meet you!10:06:19 From Phoebe Barnard, Global Restoration Collaborative to Everyone:Thank you Skeeter for reminding us of Paul Hawken and Wiser Earth - IтАЩm in touch with him and Jonathan H for our documentary films, and must get back to them on this.10:06:32 From Jon Schull, EcoRestoration Alliance to Everyone:Please provide emails to receive chat, recording, and transcriptтАжand community!10:06:33 From Alexander Russell to Everyone:I can introduce to RESTOR and SEED, though I'm independent of them.10:06:37 From Donna Nelham-Unstitution Founder to Everyone:Replying to "https://willruddick.substack.com/p/grassroots-econ...":YES!!! Also shared my repost on LI with reflections [in the chat]about why this book is a helpful тАЬbuilding blockтАЭHelen regenerativelaw.com:тЭдя╕П10:07:02 From John Hepworth to Everyone:I have a kind of dispassionate view of тАШneedingтАЩ people to тАШbuy intoтАЩ any kind of vision. I think leading by example, with self sustaining systems, seeded around the world, will SHOW people whatтАЩs possibleтАж10:07:13 From Peter Gubbels Groundswell-West Africa to Everyone:10:08:04 From Mike Lynn to Everyone:10:08:14 From Alexander Russell to Everyone:I've got to go, thank you all. Looking forward to connecting again elsewhere ЁЯСНЁЯП╗ ЁЯМН10:08:18 From Didi Pershouse to Everyone:10:08:33 From John Hepworth to Everyone:10:08:34 From Sara Scherr, EcoAgriculture Partnerse to Everyone:1000 Landscapes for 1 Billion People initiative (www.landscapes.global) is gearing up to build a global learning network among landscape leaders and allies. Would love to have all of your ideas on how to make that most effective and most complementary to and serving the networks you are working with. You may be interested in the resources being developed collaboratively by 1000L partners, like the Landscape LEarning platform, the Landscape FInance Accelerator to support partnerships to fund their action plans, support for coalitions of landscape partnership (like the Kenya Landscape Actors Platform), and a policy advocacy working group.Leonard IYAMUREMYE:тЭдя╕П10:08:38 From Peter Gubbels Groundswell-West Africa to Everyone:I also am less comfortable for "needing" people to buy into a vision, and agree with John's proposal to lead with examples in local movements.John Hepworth:ЁЯСН10:08:46 From Aude P├йronne to Everyone:Thanks @Flip Town10:09:04 From Helen regenerativelaw.com to Everyone:Email for notesтАжHe...@regenerativelaw.com10:09:28 From Donna Nelham-Unstitution Founder to Everyone:And recognizing that what has been explored here are not really тАЬmechanismsтАЭ тАжwhich is what the pervasive paradigm reinforces that keeps people becoming re-entrappedтАжand contained. Insidious.Helen regenerativelaw.com:тЭдя╕П10:10:22 From Phoebe Barnard, Global Restoration Collaborative to Everyone:For more on our global documentary series The Climate Restorers (due out next month on broadcasters, EarthX TV, and then SBS TV in Australia, Arte TV in continental Europe, and hopefully CBC TV in Canada - https://www.theclimaterestorers.com. Episode 4 pulls it all together in the film тАЬEcosystem Restoration.тАЭ10:10:51 From Leonard IYAMUREMYE to Everyone:Friends, Also remember to follow Ecorestoration Alliance on socials if you did not before, check: Linkedin Instagram etc10:11:26 From Aude P├йronne to Everyone:@flip town, are you in Uganda? sorry I missed it10:11:32 From Phoebe Barnard, Global Restoration Collaborative to Everyone:pbar...@uw.edu and Phoebe....@stableplanetalliance.org are my emails; also https://www.linkedin.com/in/phoebe-barnard/ and https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phoebe_Barnard for more background.10:11:43 From Leonard IYAMUREMYE to Everyone:Replying to "@flip town, are you in Uganda? sorry I missed it":Yes he is10:11:49 From Leonard IYAMUREMYE to Everyone:Replying to "@flip town, are you in Uganda? sorry I missed it":we metSol:тЭдя╕П10:12:43 From robert patterson to Everyone:Phoebe & Jon - thanks so vey muchтАж. Got to head out to my 3-dimensional meetingsтАж rob...@thegrowingconnection.com10:12:53 From Aude P├йronne to Everyone:Take a look at these Ugandan practices of Kirimbi and Kuguzanya in Kagadi regionLeonard IYAMUREMYE, Sol:тЭдя╕П10:13:06 From Ananda Fitzsimmons to Everyone:Global network of bioregional decolonization10:13:10 From Jim R to Everyone:The US NRCS promotes a practice of rewilded farm field borders of modest width. If whole Midwest grain region did this, weтАЩd have rewilded тАЬlaceтАЭ of vast extent.10:13:11 From Aude P├йronne to Everyone:In Kenya they call it Mweria or MwethiaLeonard IYAMUREMYE:тЭдя╕П10:13:34 From Aude P├йronne to Everyone:ALl traditional practices that bring people together10:13:46 From ignas to Everyone:Many thanks for all thoughts and suggestions. Would love to stay in the loop.Phoebe Barnard, Global Restoration Collaborative:тЭдя╕П10:13:57 From Jon Schull, EcoRestoration Alliance to Everyone:If you would like to join the ERA and be listed at https://www.ecorestorationalliance.org/public-directory, please fill out the form at https://www.ecorestorationalliance.org/engage10:14:40 From Donna Nelham-Unstitution Founder to Everyone:Feels like we are all very at home here with one another, having reached common groundтАжand much of this тАЬworkтАЭ is about liberating/freeing more ways that invite agency to get underway on the journeys that cultivate coherent collective agency and capacity to amplify what is possible via grassroots efforts AND тАЬright-scalingтАЭ and scale-linking across effortsтАжLeonard IYAMUREMYE:тЭдя╕П10:14:58 From John Hepworth to Everyone:A huge obstacle in тАШrichтАЩ countries, is people donтАЩt recognize that they are - or could be - free. WeтАЩre still so trapped in social insecurity, status seeking, etc that people run around chasing trinkets. This is where things like self sustaining permaculture farms etc can DEMONSTRATE what freedom and sanity looks like.Leonard IYAMUREMYE:ЁЯСН10:15:55 From Helen regenerativelaw.com to Everyone:The transition is a bifurcation point but the choice is between collapse into containment and expansion into thriving. The potential for collapse is real.Donna Nelham-Unstitution Founder:ЁЯСН10:16:02 From Donna Nelham-Unstitution Founder to Everyone:And ++@Michael Haupt, Cape Town also recognizing how we might need to SHIFT patterns as TRANSFORMATION10:16:21 From John Hepworth to Everyone:Agree!! We are an adolescent species. WeтАЩve never been post industrial before. We just had a 100 year fossil fuel powered party, and now its time to start cleaning up.Flip Town:тЭдя╕П10:16:56 From Jon Schull, EcoRestoration Alliance to Everyone:There are two kinds of people in this world: those who engage in binary thinking, and those who who donтАЩt.Helen regenerativelaw.com:ЁЯШВ10:16:59 From Helen regenerativelaw.com to Everyone:Othering and binary thinking are one form of limitation. But Phase Shifts do face a binary choiceтАж transcend or devolve. The water boils or it does not.10:17:07 From Phoebe Barnard, Global Restoration Collaborative to Everyone:@Jon Schull, EcoRestoration Alliance and @FliptownDAO can you please mute?10:17:28 From Sara Scherr, EcoAgriculture Partnerse to Everyone:Yes, don't underestimate how many people are in conventional economic sectors, industry, etc. who are seeking solutions. Let's see them as allies and learn from one another.John Hepworth, Philip Bogdonoff, Robin Chazdon:ЁЯСН10:17:50 From Leonard IYAMUREMYE to Everyone:Replying to "This message has been deleted":Thanks10:18:55 From Helen regenerativelaw.com to Everyone:Replying to "There are two kinds of people in this world: those...":There is a third kind of thinking, not jus movement to a paradigm beyond binaries, but also recognizing all paradigms as limited by their measurement system (the observer)10:19:12 From John Hepworth to Everyone:Replying to "Yes, don't underestimate how many people are in co...":тАжand so many people feel completely overwhelmed in their тАШnormalтАЩ lives that anything тАШmoreтАЩ seems impossible. So we have to provide better options тАШinsteadтАЩ of current ones. Like labelling everything with its carbon footprint so people can shop their way to a lower carbon footprint10:20:35 From Helen regenerativelaw.com to Everyone:Scaling => fractal and holographicAude P├йronne:тЭдя╕П10:21:42 From Arjan Conijn to Everyone:At Phoebe, where can I find your quote on upscaling vs scaling out?10:21:59 From Peter Paap to Everyone:Let a thousand flowers bloom...Arjan Conijn:ЁЯСН10:22:08 From Flip Town to Everyone:Replying to "202503191004350000.jpg":Email please.10:22:34 From Flip Town to Everyone:Replying to "ERA organizers --Please do include the chat messag...":Email please10:22:43 From Aude P├йronne to Everyone:Replying to "Scaling => fractal and holographic":Decentralized networks that can replicate. Like tackling the functional patterns10:23:34 From John Hepworth to Everyone:WhatтАЩs tricky in тАШmovementsтАЩ is how language and especially metaphors are a bit like trying to capture a gas with a net. A really good net will capture some of it - for awhile - but the metaphors and words will never тАШholdтАЩ all the ideas тАж and so, like with our own тАШstoriesтАЩ - we have to be endlessly renewing the metaphors and languageAude P├йronne:ЁЯСНMichael Haupt, Cape Town:ЁЯТб10:24:48 From Sara Scherr, EcoAgriculture Partnerse to Everyone:I wrote a blog a few years ago about the 100 different names for landscapes, each of which is a different 'movement' that don't work together for collective policy change. https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/landscape-any-other-name-sara-scherr?trk=public_postMike Lynn:тЭдя╕ПJohn Hepworth:ЁЯСНSol:ЁЯШН10:25:05 From Jon Schull, EcoRestoration Alliance to Everyone:Replying to "ERA organizers --Please do include the chat messag...":What is your Email then?10:25:21 From Sara Scherr, EcoAgriculture Partnerse to Everyone:ssc...@ecoagriculture.org love to hear from you10:25:23 From Donna Nelham-Unstitution Founder to Everyone:Replying to "202503191004350000.jpg":@Flip Town donna....@unstitution.world Warm welcome to connect with me on LinkedIn too.10:25:50 From Jon Schull, EcoRestoration Alliance to Everyone:@Didi Pershouse those experiences ARE messages. From reality!10:25:54 From Victoria Zelin to Everyone:vze...@possiblerochester.org, also in the Design School for Regenerating Earth with Joe Brewer. Fantastic! BioregionalEarth.org for joining design school and our тАЬhow to organize your bioregionтАЭ learning journey over next 6 months.John Hepworth, Donna Nelham-Unstitution Founder:ЁЯСН10:26:01 From Peter Paap to Everyone:Not scaling but aggregatingMike Lynn:тЭдя╕П10:26:42 From Jon Schull, EcoRestoration Alliance to Everyone:E pluribus unum!10:27:40 From Jon Schull, EcoRestoration Alliance to Everyone:in diversity we trust10:27:45 From Victoria Zelin to Everyone:Victoria Zelin-Cloud https://www.linkedin.com/in/victoriazelin/10:28:27 From Jon Schull, EcoRestoration Alliance to Everyone:тАЬMy opinion of Western Civlization? I think it would be an excellent idea!тАЭтАФGandhiAude P├йronne:тЭдя╕П10:28:47 From John Hepworth to Everyone:Reaching out to tik tokkers and influencers - our kids and grandkids is a great way to amplify/spread whatтАЩs working10:28:58 From Donna Nelham-Unstitution Founder to Everyone:++@Didi Pershouse yesтАжand again the term тАЬscalingтАЭ is an example of the traps of тАЬlanguagingтАЭ and the need to invite inquiry and deep embodied workтАжexcavating beneath the surface of our words as a practiceтАжHelen regenerativelaw.com:тЭдя╕ПVictoria Zelin:ЁЯСН10:30:47 From Donna Nelham-Unstitution Founder to Everyone:In closingтАжoffering a poemтАжNavigating Between Worlds ЁЯОз ЁЯО╢Helen regenerativelaw.com:тЭдя╕П10:30:50 From Mark Haubner to Everyone:Not scaling but 'growing to capacity within its context.'10:30:58 From Mike Lynn to Everyone:Great session, thank you everyoneVictoria Zelin:ЁЯСН10:31:03 From Aude P├йronne to Everyone:Thank you everyone10:31:10 From Mark Haubner to Everyone:Thank you, all!!10:31:22 From Robin Chazdon to Everyone:Thank you! This has definitely gotten the juices flowing!10:31:25 From Michael Haupt, Cape Town to Everyone:Thank you all, very inspiring. ЁЯЩП10:31:25 From Donna Nelham-Unstitution Founder to Everyone:Thank you all!10:31:29 From John Hepworth to Everyone:Amazing session. Very inspiring10:31:31 From Flip Town to Everyone:Replying to "202503191004350000.jpg":Thank you Donna, looking forward.10:31:40 From Sol to Everyone:Thanks for the email reminder!Good to see everyone ЁЯЩВDonna Nelham-Unstitution Founder:тЭдя╕П10:31:43 From Sol to Everyone:10:32:15 From Robin Chazdon to Everyone:10:32:16 From Philip Bogdonoff to Everyone:10:32:17 From Aude P├йronne to Everyone:10:32:18 From Myra Jackson to Everyone:For recording: Myra L Jackson, mlja...@gmail.com10:32:19 From Jim Wilson to Everyone:Jim Wilson jplau...@gmail.com10:32:23 From Aude P├йronne to Everyone:Donna Nelham-Unstitution Founder:тЭдя╕П10:32:26 From Doris Brevoort to Everyone:Doris Brevoort10:32:26 From verena ahne to Everyone:10:32:34 From Phoebe Barnard, Global Restoration Collaborative to Everyone:https://bsky.app/profile/phoebebarnard.bsky.social and https://www.linkedin.com/in/phoebe-barnard/ will also share there10:32:45 From klah to Everyone:10:32:49 From Leonard IYAMUREMYE to Everyone:10:32:55 From Leonard IYAMUREMYE to Everyone:my linkedin10:33:03 From Jon Schull, EcoRestoration Alliance to Everyone:And when you get it pass it around!!10:33:16 From Miriam Holmeide to Everyone:Thank you, great to be a part of this call10:33:13 From Arjan Conijn to Everyone:Thank you, for inspiring! Kindest regars and respect, a.m.c...@rug.nl
On Wed, 19 Mar 2025 at 11:03, Jon Schull <jsc...@gmail.com> wrote:
Thanks again for attending today!Here is the recording, transcript and chat from today's meeting. (The chat is on the right; click a chat to play the video context.) https://fathom.video/share/8FMPzU-SGoe3phszNqWocaRQScEx-u6z
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