Re: udpates to multi-unit housing
Patrick Anderson
> Alex Rollin wrote:
>>
>> One of my assumptions in all of this work I'm doing is that
>> common resources or common property is a necessary
>> assumption with p2p.
>>
>> I don't go into a lot of details yet about how I think it
>> should be aquired, or even what legal structrue should own
>> it or what to do with debt.
There may be a way of funding this without going into traditional debt
by having groups of consumers pre-pay for the products they need while
using that money to buy the [[Physical Sources]] required to begin.
This is another way of looking at how some groups make bulk purchases,
but has the potential for much more impact (though a longer window of
return) when the target is a tree instead of a box of fruit.
Though this also nearly requires the production be already somewhat
'proven' for those investing consumers to feel comfortable handing us
money - so to solve that problem we could find artisans that are
already skilled and being productive, but are becoming financially
stressed. We then organize the current consumers of that very same
facility to simply pay-off the debt begin held.
For example, say a dairy owner is about to go bankrupt even though his
customers enjoy that product. We would approach all of those
customers with an offer: if they can prepay a sufficient amount, then
the dairy becomes their collective property which allows them to then
recieve the milk [[At Cost]] and under their full control.
> Or when a networked structure creates a "de-facto" commons,
> even temporary, through participation.
> De-facto "process" commons ?
Dante, are you talking about how [[Physical Sources]] are sometimes
shared among participants without any formal agreements? This is a
great thing, but I doubt it can 'scale' to a sufficient degree for us
to replace Capitalism...
Dante-Gabryell Monson
Hi Patrick,Hi Alex.
I like your comments and proposed architectures.
What I want to enable through the tool I may have described to you earlier,
is a granular notation system which includes any type of transaction, and new approaches to empower users to such transactions, while visualizing interdependencies,and transfers between various systems.
As I understand Patrick's model,the way it would be annotated is possibly :
"create project object"
and describe it.
Then issue a "request" which can have a "conditionality" : only be activated when a tipping point of "supporters" offering the requested units are reached.
This is a simple annotation.
Much more complex interdependencies can be annotated ( hence creating code ) to enable interdependent transactions.
Dante,from the park,on he's phone.
On Jul 4, 2010 5:31 PM, "Alex Rollin" <alex....@gmail.com> wrote:
There are a number of pages about 'how' things are owned, but very few
about how a p2p network would aqcuire such things, needing to look
outside itself for resources and collaborating in the process.A
On Sun, Jul 4, 2010 at 5:30 PM, Patrick Anderson <agnu...@gmail.com> wrote: > Dante-Gabryell Monso...