ECBU2013 Katilim Sartlari

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caliskanyigit

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Sep 21, 2012, 6:37:21 PM9/21/12
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Asagida BULA'nin avrupa sorumlusu Pedro'ya sordugum sorulari ve Pedro'nun attigi cevabi gorebilirsiniz.

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Dear Pedro,

I hope you remember me from Spirit of the Game Association in Turkey. I have a few questions regarding European Championships of Beach Ultimate 2013. As you know, upon your invitation, we are planning to send one squad or maybe more than one squad to ECBU2013. We are in progress of selecting our tournament squad(s) and start our practices. Your answers will help to shape this selection. Here are our questions:

i) Is it possible to send two national teams for same division?

ii) Are the tournament format, fixture, rules determined?

iii) Is it mandatory that the squads have to have all Turkish players? Can there be any foreigners in the squads? Do you have any restrictions about this like quota for foreigners or requirements? Since we have a few foreigners who have been playing ultimate more than 3-4 years in Turkey and have residence permit.

That's all for now, I hope everything goes well. Thank you in advance.
Best regards,
Yigit Caliskan

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Dear Yigit,

 

Thanks for your email.

 

As for your questions:

 

1)      No it isn’t. Only one national team, per country, per division;

2)      Yes they are. All that info will be released by the end of the month;

3)      No it isn’t. Turkey integrates a special category of countries. You’ll be considered a small ultimate community (see below), which will allow you to field one extra foreign player.

Here is the eligibly rules, as you’ll be able to find in the player’s manual, as soon as it is released:


Citizenship

 

Citizens

Players are deemed to be Citizens and can automatically qualify for participation if:

·         They own a passport or equivalent legal document issued by the country's government; or

·         If they have moved to the country at least four years prior to the start date of the event and spent more than 75% of those four years in the country.

Resident Non-Citizen

 

Each team can put up to 3 players on their roster that are deemed to be "Resident non-citizens". These players:

own a legal certificate of permanent residency issued by the country's government; or

moved to the country at least 20 months prior to the start date of the event and spent more than 75% of those 20 months in the country.

 

Ultimate Community Member

Each team can field one player that is deemed to be an "Ultimate Community Member", if a player is considered to be a significant part of that Country’s ultimate community, but doesn’t fall under the above categories. This choice is at the discretion of the country’s National Association and following may be taken into account in making this decision:

·         Residency history in that Country

·         Participation in that Country’s ultimate events, especially national championships

·         Past representation on National Teams

·         Participation in the development of ultimate in the Country

 

The reasoning shall be provided along with the remaining registration information.

 

Small Ultimate Community

 

A country which fulfills the following criteria will be considered a small Ultimate community:

·         A maximum of 300 Ultimate players are registered with the National WFDF member (Ultimate Federation, Flying Disc Federation or similar).

·         The country has been a WFDF Member for less than 16 years.


Teams from small Ultimate communities will be allowed to add one extra Resident Non- Citizen or Ultimate Community Member to their Roster.

Hope it helps.

Cheers


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Pedro'nun cevabina gore 3(Non-citizen resident) + 1(Ultimate Community Member) + 1(Small Ultimate Community) olarak 5 yabanci kotamiz var gibi duruyor. Benim burada kafami karistiran kisim surasi. Citizens kisminda soyle denmis:

Players are deemed to be Citizens If they have moved to the country at least four years prior to the start date of the event and spent more than 75% of those four years in the country.

Mesela bu cumleye gore ornek veriyorum Garrett 2009 Haziran ayinda Turkiye'ye yerlestiyse vatandas olmamasina ragmen citizen kategorisine giriyor gibi geldi. Dogru muyum? Eger oyleyse isim yazdiran yabancilar arasinda 2009 Haziran'da Turkiye'ye yerlesmis olan var mi?

Gorusuruz,

Yigit


Emrah Demir

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Sep 24, 2012, 11:33:10 AM9/24/12
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Ben de ayni seyi anladim.
1- 4 senedir turkiyede olani zaten vatandas sayiyorlar. Onda bir sikinti yok. Yani turnuva 2013 haziransa 2009 haziran limit oluyor.
2-20 aydir turkiyede olan yabancilardan 3 kisi gelebiliyor. Bu da subat 2011 kasim oluyor heralde.
3-Ayrica 2 tane de ne kadar suredir burada oldugu onemli olmayan ama turkiyede bu spora katkisi olmus yabanci oynatabiliyoruz.
Ben boyle anladim.

Emrah

22 Eyl 2012 01:37 tarihinde "caliskanyigit" <calisk...@gmail.com> yazdı:


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> Asagida BULA'nin avrupa sorumlusu Pedro'ya sordugum sorulari ve Pedro'nun attigi cevabi gorebilirsiniz.
> ========================================
> Dear Pedro,
> I hope you remember me from Spirit of the Game Association in Turkey. I have a few questions regarding European Championships of Beach Ultimate 2013. As you know, upon your invitation, we are planning to send one squad or maybe more than one squad to ECBU2013. We are in progress of selecting our tournament squad(s) and start our practices. Your answers will help to shape this selection. Here are our questions:
> i) Is it possible to send two national teams for same division?
> ii) Are the tournament format, fixture, rules determined?
> iii) Is it mandatory that the squads have to have all Turkish players? Can there be any foreigners in the squads? Do you have any restrictions about this like quota for foreigners or requirements? Since we have a few foreigners who have been playing ultimate more than 3-4 years in Turkey and have residence permit.

> That's all for now, I hope everything goes well. Thank you in advance.Best regards,Yigit Caliskan

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Tunca Çaylant

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Sep 25, 2012, 10:42:01 AM9/25/12
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Aynen böyle.
Citizen (C) sayılabilen, 2009 Haziran'dan evvel yerleşmiş yabancımız varsa ve sayısı da n ise 3 RNC+2UCM+n tane C sayıda yabancımız kadroda olabiliyor.
Ancak C ve RNC'ler için ülkede geçirdikleri toplam sürenin %70'i burdalar mıydı, bi tek ona dikkat edeceğiz sanırım.

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Gizem Mutlu

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Sep 25, 2012, 3:49:07 PM9/25/12
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Ben diyorum ki , eğer ismini yazdıran yabancılar hakkında bilgi sahibi değilsek, kendilerine mesaj atalım soralım ‘siz bu koşulları sağlıyor musunuz?’ diye. ya da bilen varsa söylesin.

Gelecek cevaba göre de takımdaki yabancı kontenjanı hakkında daha kesin bir şekilde konuşabiliriz.

Eğer hayır demezseniz, ben Perşembe günü listedekilere ulaşmaya çalışabilirim.

 

Bir de, neden 2 tane UCM anlamadım? “Each team can field one player that is deemed to be an "Ultimate Community Member” diyor?

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Tunca Çaylant

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Sep 25, 2012, 3:53:54 PM9/25/12
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"You’ll be considered a small ultimate community (see below), which will allow you to field one extra foreign player." cümlesine ek olarak,
"Teams from small Ultimate communities will be allowed to add one extra Resident Non- Citizen or Ultimate Community Member to their Roster." cümlesinden Pedro'nun çıkıyor bu sonuç.
Valla bence iyi olur tabi, yabancılara tek tek de ulaşmak..

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Gizem Mutlu

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Sep 25, 2012, 3:57:07 PM9/25/12
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Tamam. Ben de 3+1+1 diye düşünmüştüm de, 1+1=2 olduğunu hesaplamadım =)

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Tunca Çaylant

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Sep 25, 2012, 4:00:47 PM9/25/12
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Ben de kafa karıştırmışım istemeden :)
3+1+1+vatandaş(citizen) olmuş varsa o kadar daha foreigner yani.

Yani Garrett mesela (veya başkaları da?) Haziran 2009 ve öncesinde gelip TR'ye, yüzde 70'ini bu zamanın da burda geçirdiyse bir Yiğit, bir Mecit'ten farksız oluyor ve aslında 6 yabancıyla gidebiliyoruz bu şampiyonaya!

Bunu da Gizem sen tek tek ulaşıp sorar, kayıt altına alırsan, güzel bir iş hallolmuş olur tabi ki...

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