ECBU antrenmanları

[Garrett Hubing]

hi Guys and Gals,

I'm curious about attendance at the ECBU practices.  Do you have lists of who has been coming?   I would also like to hear some people's views on how the trainings are going, who has been standing out and who has been showing dedication/motivation?  

Here is a google document showing attendance for Ankara.  It will be updated weekly:

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AhDxi-ZhgZAEdHh6X1pnV1ExczBBUzhpWGdYc2s3cHc

A couple of comments about the list:  

1. Kobe and Yiğit Şahin have been advancing steadily.  They are both extremely motivated and good athletes. 

2. There is a new-ish player that I think is going to have a realistic shot at making the squad:  Onur Demirel.  He is showing absolutely amazing potential (moreso than any new player I have seen in Turkey).  He's probably the best athlete of anyone on the list, has good field sense, and listens to and implements what we tell him.  Keep an eye on him at the training camp--he's fun to watch.

3. It is my understanding that Hüseyin will not be trying out for the team for Spain, just so you guys know.

Cheers,

Garrett

[Tunca Çaylant]

Garrett hi,
i'm happy for the ankara people seeing that you're quite dedicated and well organized. i'll talk in a devil's advocate way for the istanbul community now vut

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[Tunca Çaylant]

Excuse me for my lack of mobile internet usage abilities. i pushed "send" accidentally.
we're not as organized as you now due to the fact that we don't have assigned responsibilities for the management of this process in istanbul. the duties of coordination with ankara, preparation of training content, application and management of drills are quite improper now. gizem has a list of the attendees but we really did nothing up to now in terms of serious BULA preparation. i'm sure majority of istanbul community is not happy with this situation and the sunday after Hadimkoy is a perfect opportunity to talk and fix those issues with your attendance too. i'd love to say that "ali baris is really improving" or "kutay is becoming a complete handler" as you noted for kobe and yigit. but we don't have enough data with us to assess any player as of now, because we couldn't have a single practice, as it should be.
See y'all saturday and sunday.
Really looking fwd to this.
Tunca

[Eylem Caner]

In the 2 trainings I've been to (out of the 3), Gizem and Ece kept lists of who had attended. Only 7 people attended to the 3rd, so there should be a list of attendance.

Relating the rest, well, it's not looking good in İstanbul right now.

So, there are some names that we all know have a really good shot at making the team, which have told me that they are not interested in coming. I think this is a really big loss, Ali Berk, who is an amazing athelete and has a huge potential when he puts his head in the game and Kutay who is one of the best game/player readers I have met, are not interested in coming. 

Another issue is a good motivator for these kind of players. Kutay has a good ability of reading a player or a tactic, but he never puts it to use. I only know it because he loves rubbing it in my face. He's the only player in Turkey who notices my weaknesses and plays to shut those things down, which I love, that's when I have to improvise, and as I've said, he's the only player that does that to me. But he doesn't use it anywhere else, or at least I haven't noticed. I don't think either of them take it seriously, which is OK, but sad for us. I have personally talked with Kutay, told him that he has a great ability and that he should use it, I don't know if it changed anything though.

I gave their names because they just popped into my head, there are more names like them of course.

Another smaller problem is that Boğaziçi has practices that are really close to practice times and at distant locations so very few people from Boğaziçi show up at practices and we know they have some great players that we haven't seen at a practice yet. Normally I would say this is a poor excuse to miss a national team practice, but with the way things have been, it's normal, hopefully it won't be the same way from Sunday on.

The only people I have seen dedicated to actually getting better while attending practices are Tunca and Ali Barış. I have talked about the situation at practices in a previous email, so I will not go over them again. We have a huge lack of: 1) excitement/enthusiasm, 2) focus, 3) goals to look forward to and last but not least 4) any kind of structure in any kind of way.

I have brought these points up before and no one responded so I don't know if anything will change now. We love waiting so I guess we're just waiting for a savior again.

The biggest issue we have right now are the prices. We made a veeery rough calculation with Tunca and it came to at least 2000 liras for just the tournament days, including everything. This will mean that we will have a lot of dropouts, so it will most possibly not be the best team, but the players that we can take there.

Why I'm bringing this up, is because I believe we can use these trainings to increase the level of ultimate in Turkey in a wider sense. Normally most people are not that interested in clinics or getting better in general. This can be a really good goal to look forward to and a motivator for people to push themselves harder. Lets use this great excuse to the raise the level in a proper and structured way.

Would be nice to hear from all those people in the committee. I'm again writing very aggresively again just to provoke some answers. Let's hope it'll work this time.

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Eylem Caner

http://www.eylemplani.com

[Huseyin Camalan]

"Why I'm bringing this up, is because I believe we can use these
trainings to increase the level of ultimate in Turkey in a wider
sense. Normally most people are not that interested in clinics or
getting better in general. This can be a really good goal to look
forward to and a motivator for people to push themselves harder. Lets
use this great excuse to the raise the level in a proper and
structured way."

I thought we had already determined this to be one of our most
important goals, but the financial problems regarding the tournament
costs put us in a difficult situation. Ideally people would go to
practices with the expected reward of being picked to the national
team, but with so many people (including myself) not being able to pay
for it, this is not a reward anymore (and not being picked to the
national team isn't a punishment).

When you want to make an intervention to an unwanted situation (low
turnouts at practices) and you offer a reward or punishment, people
will comply, only as long as they can extract more rewards or avoid
punishments. Thus, such interventions working on the basis of a
punishment/reward will usually fail when there is no motivator,
because the motivation is solely extrinsic.

We might instead want to use different strategies to increase turnouts
at practices and this would involve fostering more intrinsic
motivations, things that make people think of how much they love
Ultimate and how much they would like themselves more if they improved
their game.

This is usually a more difficult way of implementing a change in
behavior but it is more sustainable and lasting. I don't know if this
interests anyone at all, but upon request I can bring some of my
course material on this subject to Hadımköy and we can brainstorm a
bit about how we can improve the situation in İstanbul.

But first of all, let's make sure that the workshops this weekend is
going to be awesome.

Hüseyin

[Gizem Mutlu]

Bu aralar sürekli bu para konusu gündemde. Ancak hatırlatmak isterim ki bu antrenmanlar sadece plaj şampiyonası için değil. Çıkarmak istediğimiz tek milli takım bula için değil.
Para bu kadar problemse belki bulaya takım bile çıkaramayız da başka bir turnuvaya gideriz. Plaja gelmeyecek olmaları belli olmasına rağmen antrenmana gelen bir sürü insan var.
Demek istediğimi tam anlatamadım sanki ama.. öyle işte.

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[Tunca Çaylant]

Kaldi ki biz bir dernegiz ve farkli kanallardan kaynak yaratabiliriz kendimize. Bununla ilgili ayri bir paragrafa sigacak seyler var aklimda. Pazar biraraya geldigimizde bahsedecegim detaylica.

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[Garrett Hubing]

gizem'e tamamen katılıyorum, bu antrenmanlar sadece BULA için olmasın, parası olmayan ama kendini geliştirmek isteyen biri varsa katılsın.  geleceğin türk milli oyuncularını yetiştirmeye çalışalım.  

para konusunda:  ORD mesela Türk oyuncuların vize ücretlerini bir şekilde ödeyebilse çok iyi olur.  

motivasyon konusunda:  kendinizi toplayın ve bir çözüm bulun.  İstanbul'da 15-20 daha iyi oynamak isteyen oyuncu vardır.  Türkiye'de açık aralı en tecrübeli olan ve en iyi koçluk yapabilen oyuncu da var: Melanie.  o antrenmanlara gelemese de onun fikirlerini kullanıp çok etkili antrenman yapma fırsatınız var.  bütün bileşenler duruyor, sadece birleştirip kullanmaya başlamak lazım.  

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2012/11/29 Tunca Çaylant <tunc...@gmail.com>

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