EU-standard bans home charging ?!

[Jiri Räsänen]

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European Car Manufacturers' Association (ACEA) plans European wide  

standards for charging that would exclude home charging, if not  

certified by a third party. But it's not about Europe only. ACEA  

members include also American GM and Ford. Both standardization white  

papers state the aim is to create a global standard. First in Europe,  

then it's a matter-of-fact everywhere else.

This is nonsense and absolutely not needed. Standard 220V and 110V  

work just fine. Of course both fast charge and smart V2G charging  

need standards, but in no way there's any need to exlude the existing  

standars.

In Nordic countries almost all apartment buildings have already  

charging points, which are actually build for warming purposes.

The whole paper can be found here:

http://www.acea.be/index.php/news/news_detail/ 

auto_manufacturers_agree_on_specifications_to_connect_electrically_charg 

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And the crucial piece of text is as follows:

"ACEA recommendation for home charging (infrastructure side):

Mode 3 uniform EU solution (Type plugs specifications to be finalized  

by the end of 2010 in conjunction with the CEN/CENELEC activities,  

having in mind global context).

Remark: Standard domestic sockets or industrial sockets (Mode 2)  

should still be allowed on condition of third party certification of  

the household electricity grid to be conducted before the  

electrically chargeable vehicle is first charged."

The manufacturers view that the standards should be decided before  

the end of 2010 and to be functional in 2017.

This is so crazy, yet something like this has been waited for a long  

time.

Empire strikes back? - You bet!

But what they didn't take into account is that we know better, the  

trilogy had yet another part...

Best Regards,

Jiri Räsänen

eCars - Now! activist

www.eCars-Now.org

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[Alex Basualdo]

I believe that this is done for two reasons:

1)to ensure that charging methods which may exceed household cabling and or protection devices don't cause disasters.

2)The grid suppliers also want to control how many people "join in" so that they have a feel of how much they need to prepare to supply.

In some cases step down transformers need to me amplified.  But it wouldn't be reasonable for the user to pay for the inspection or paperwork 

if their electric bill is increased and paid for.  Or will they want to loose their opportunity of charging for more consumption if people start charging with 

solar panels or wind generators, which don't interfere with any of the 2 problems above mentioned.

My admiration to all the ones working for a clearer future.

Alex Basualdo

[Al Hodges]

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From: Alex Basualdo <basual...@gmail.com>
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From: Al in San Diego

Nissan and the State of California are preventing this problem. Before anyone
can take delivery on a Nissan Leaf, a Nissan contracted inspection team visits
each buyer's home and checks the electricity installation, often requiring a
separate circuit breaker and wiring box just for the home charger. Even though
homes have 220 volt lines for the clothes dryer and electric stove, these 20 amp
systems are not sufficient to handle the 60 amp chargers.

The power companies believe that most charging will be at night when there is
an over supply of power, so charging cars probably will not affect the grid. The
Department of Transportation in Washington estimates that the country could
easily handle over 100 million electric cars charging at night with no additional
electric capacity needed. Many California electric car owners have installed a
supplemental solar system to lower their costs, which also reduces the power
demand on the utility companies.

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[ecarsnowspain]

That is very true, assumptions on increasing capacity would only affect the power supply increase at day time due to car charging.

Good point to have cleared out, it defines where we stand to what may happen very soon.

Regards,

Alex

[Victor Krasnyansky]

Dear Jiri
 
Hope all is better there.
 
I decided to write you as I can not think around and alone.
I spent a decade in monitoring information on esoteric information and technology.
No so long ago - 5 years - I discovered a channeling to me.
 
Now the matter. I do not know whether you have seen this channeling from Krion or not - anyway.
 
1. Kryon had been issuing warnings quite long time up to now.
2. Currently he developed very alarming two - one in Feb and second in September
3. Gaia also issued a warning - can be found in Pepper Lewis books of the latest issue
 
The issue is - our sources of energy tend to be stopped far earlier then Gov-s admit.
Level of water will rise - means that huge populations of sea level CITIES will have two options - to move higher or to breath under water.
Then you may imagine all transition to next stable period.
In US you see that Obama feels - changes happen.
 
Thus - please read carefully and open-mindly st least Kryon's channeling http://www.kryon.com/k_channel10_albuquerque.html - and let we think what we can do.
 
I feel that we need a rebranding and sort to say IPO - to bring in resources and knowledges. Then we perform RND on issues and involve real scientists and share results with the world.
 
If some of you will think that we have enough time to do nothing - OK for me. But in our history happened a moment in the city when half of its population died. And most of them thought that they have enough time to do nothing counting on gvmnt.
 
Our greatest luck as a phisical beings will be the stadiness of all those mentioned processes.
 
I am open to see what can we do in terms of real convertion of the Earth.
On the Pepper Lewis site Gaia's channelings about near future.
 
I guess we need to develop a plan who and what should do - project like. If some will be resistant - we must find friends more.
 
I am here for your anwers.
 
Best regards to all and every our members
 
Victor Krasnyansky
Saint-Pete Russia  
5 meters above sea level
and 5 mlns people with 
5 roads out of the city except sea
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 

 

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Subject: [eCars-global] EU-standard bans home charging ?!
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