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Fwd: Translation of Quran in different languages... - 1 new
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---------- Forwarded message ---------- ...To: Moyez Kamani <moyez.kam...@
gmail.com> YAM Moyez, Can you please put this on e-bapa? Thanks & YAM, I*t is
not action or effort that we must surrender; it is self-will, and this is
terribly difficult. You must do your best constantly, yet never allow yourself
to become involved in whether things work out the way you - Wed, Aug 6 2008 7:
58 am
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Hello Moyez, A job opening matching your profile has just been posted to our
career site. When you last visited our career site, you indicated that you
might be interested in applying to this type of position should it become
available. Job: Senior Engineers /Officers Location*: Ontario/Southwest/
Niagara Plant Group - Wed, Aug 6 2008 10:48 am
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Lisbon Didar Analysis - 1 new
-----------------------------
Forwarded as received Lisbon golden jubilee Darbar Darbar venue International
expo Lisbon, Portugal Date 13th July 2008. Deedar is an individual spiritual
journey. Jubilee Darbar is a very important milestone in Imam's life and so in
murids life. Lisbon Darbar was unique in the way it touched my intellect I saw
Hazar Imam in a totally different mood. He is meeting the Lisbon jamat after
10 years and after customary thanks to the government and blessings for
everyone he right away came to the point that "Jubilee is a time of
celebration and happiness" "Even a child's smile is a blessing and Happiness
is a gift from Allah" He wanted us to wear a big smile all day and rejoice and
be happy! Eat Biryani and Samosa and play Dandiya raas and just be happy! The
concluding message in London sent via Mukhi saheb after leaving the hall now
in Lisbon was an opening message! Then what was it all about BROCO…LLI? How
many people even understood whether he was recommending eating broccoli or not?
Or whether he was even trying to do that? The lady sitting next to me said "I
am now onwards going to bring broccoli for Mehmani at Jamat khana, because I
think Mawla likes broccoli" I stopped her quickly and said "Oh no, Please
don't he is finding it to be an ugly vegetable he does not like it" But
irrespective of who understood what every single person including a lot of
women who are always crying in the Deedar because of emotions started laughing
and clapping despite strong request by Alvaez not to clap but say salvat
loudly. But how can you not when Imam was literally pushing us to laugh and
clap? If some one is cracking joke and if you do not respond with a laugh it
will be an insult to the speaker! And how can you say Salvat when Mawla is
saying laugh!!! And be happy!! He just wanted his jamat to be happy! No matter
what! Goal achieved! He literally had to demonstrate that happiness is a gift
Take it! I am here to give you happiness! may be we have forgotten to be happy
and laugh! Peers have always said in the Ginans "DEEDAR takes away one's
difficulties (janjal)"(ashaji Parts) So if that is his promise why be unhappy?
Also I think the pressures of modern life and scantier and scantier social
life has produced sadness and wide spread depression everywhere. There is so
much depression among professionals and youth. And everywhere in the world in
general! Our youth has moved away from jamatkhana trying to find happiness in
materialism and drugs and alcohol. To deny the facts is a big mistake.like
ostrich trying to hide his head! Family ties are getting weaker and sometimes
even breaking. We are becoming more and more individualistic (selfish in
correct words) Imam wants us to come together, establish the bonds , work to
gather Have more celebrations. I remember when I first came to USA, 20 years
ago there used to be so many Jamat celebrations and involvement that we never
felt left out or lonely! There used to be New year's eve celebration, Thanks
giving, valentine day, two picnics, two big Dandiya Khushali and frequent
other dinners and get to gathers. We used to take our kids every where with us
because all these programs were family oriented rather than couple oriented.
And I used to see supervised mingling of kids, And many when they grew up
married in the community, less divorce rates fewer conflicts Now everything
has changed! No food is allowed in Jamatkhana (except now for GJ celebrations)
There are constant conflicts among Mukhi kamadias and jamat about food issues,
sometimes ugly! One ex Mukhi constantly said "there are ruhani khushias; you
don't need food for khushias"!!!!! Then why is Hazar Imam Saying eat Biryani
and Samosa and play Dandiya! What message is there? Universally FOOD is always
a part of expression of love and happiness cross culturally! How can we be
different? 20 years ago we were amazing! My children loved going to jamatkhana!
They were happy!! We were happy!!! Now there is nothing in jamatkhana for
them. Long announcements are boring!! Politics and favourism is disturbing and
frustrating. No one listens to the grievances of jamat. Mukhi kamadias are
afraid of Council for fear of no repeat appointments. The respect and love for
leadership is diminishing because injustice by leadership is obvious. Any one
who tries to fix the problem or help or try to do the right thing is quickly
black listed. Result? More and more persons are staying away from jamatkhana.
Jamat khana which used to be a great relaxing place even for singles and
lonely because they could interact with some one and have some emotional
outlet . It had great therapeutic value!!besides the prayer and it's benifit.
Now are finding pushed out because jamatkhana needs to be closed right away.
Everyone has to rush to work. Youth across the board is absent in jamatkhana
very worrisome! Where are they? Big question? Few young kids who are in
jamatkhana are preferentially treated by Mukhi kamadias which further puts off
other youth!! Mukhi Kamadias feel it is none of their business if they are not
coming to jamatkhana. It is the loss for them! What is the solution? Hazar
Imam is demonstrating by actions in his Farman make my jamat happy!! Make them
laugh!! My jamat is so wonderful and great they are easy to be pleased!! They
did not get broccoli joke yet all of them laughed and clapped! How cute it is!!
How much they love their Mawla! Let the relaxed atmosphere return once again
among the jamat Let our youth mingle among the community, so we do not deal
with youth depression and substance abuse To deny it is existing is the
biggest mistake! We will have fewer intercaste marriages and fewer divorces
inshaallah! Let us reduce the red tapes every where. Let us be able to trust
each other and not cheat!brothers and sisters do not cheat! Let there be more
honesty and broadmindedness and transparency! Let our leaders communicate all
important stuff to jamat also so Mawla does not have to talk about it in the
farman! It is not for their private use only! It needs to be shared! Also
share instances which can invoke more love for our Mawla.do not is selfish! "
Love for Imam" is the fundamental requisite for the murid to obtain full
benefit of the faith. When Mawla is coming after 10 years he must have so much
to talk about!! Instead he is talking about "THE BROCCCOLLLI…"and invoked a
laugh! He wanted us to be happy! He found a great need for that! It is pretty
hard to cry and weep when Mawla is cracking jokes! Every word and action and
gesture of Mawla has meaning to it, nothing is by the way It is our duty to
understand the exoteric as well as esoteric meaning to it! In council there
are so many boards there should be one board promoting "happiness" Happiness
Board! Allah's gift! Golden jubilee gift! Function being to take care of the
mental well being of the jamat, promote happiness give them laughs!! Aged
parents are also very depressed!!Professionals are overworked! Computers have
made them lose their social interacting skills. Result? Loneliness! Youth is
lonely and confused! Make them laugh! It will be the biggest blessing It will
be greatest Farman bardari! Let us stand up for weak and disabled! Let us make
the old people happy, get the youth in jamatkhana! Food is a connecting portal!
Why hate it? Biryani and Samosa are not bad! It is a powerful expression of
love unity care and generosity, all being principles of Islam! When child
comes home first thing mom does is gives FOOD! It is an expression of love and
care! Let there be more Biryani and Samosa and let us have fun with innocent
topics like Broccoli, and not at the expense of individuals! You can pretty
much have fun innocently with simple subjects without hurting anyone! Let us
have more Dandiya raas functions than less! Our jamat is Mashaallah very
generous! 1.4 million Pounds for an esoteric Awal Sufra on the Darbar day in
London! What bigger proof is needed for showing the incredible generosity on
the part of jamat! How much love for the Imam! Mashaallah let us all come to
gather to make our Mawla happier! Let us not be divided! Let "jamat's
happiness" be a motto from jubilee year onwards Yaali madad Dolly Chandani M.D.
[link] -- Wish you all the Best! Shenaz -- Narmeen Live simply. Love
generously. Care deeply. Speak kindly. Leave the rest to God - Wed, Aug 6 2008
6:36 am
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Fwd: Pir Ismailbhai Gangji - 1 new
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Worth a read. ---------- Forwarded message ---------- ...To: Moyez Kamani <
moyez.kam...@gmail.com>, assif habib <assifha...@gmail.com ...Pir Ismailbhai
Gangji - Wed, Aug 6 2008 6:43 am
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For Princess Zahra - 1 new
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Sharing. Bernhard Viehweber is a glass painter from Germany, trained at the
renowned Glass Academy in Hadamar, where he also successfully completed his
master course. - Tues, Aug 5 2008 7:05 am
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2008 5:53 am
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Fwd: FW: Speech by Mahmoud Eboo - 1 new
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Regards Sadru *Subject:* Fw: Speech by Mahmoud Eboo If you have not already
heard this already. Anar *PLEASE TAKE TIME AND LISTEN TO THIS VERY INTERESTING
LECTURE, YOU WILL HAVE - Tues, Aug 5 2008 5:31 pm
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------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Hello Moyez, A job opening matching your profile has just been posted to our
career site. When you last visited our career site, you indicated that you
might be interested in applying to this type of position should it become
available. Job: Heating Ventilating & Air Conditioning Technicians - Tues,
Aug 5 2008 10:16 am
1 message, 1 author
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Fwd: Translation of Quran in different languages... - 1 new
-----------------------------------------------------------
---------- Forwarded message ---------- ...To: Moyez Kamani <moyez.kam...@
gmail.com> YAM Moyez, Can you please put this on e-bapa? Thanks & YAM, I*t is
not action or effort that we must surrender; it is self-will, and this is
terribly difficult. You must do your best constantly, yet never allow yourself
to become involved in whether things work out the way you - Wed, Aug 6 2008 7:
58 am
1 message, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/E-Bapa/t/03b5d919417602ae?hl=en
OPG Career Alert // Senior Engineers /Officers - 1 new
------------------------------------------------------
Hello Moyez, A job opening matching your profile has just been posted to our
career site. When you last visited our career site, you indicated that you
might be interested in applying to this type of position should it become
available. Job: Senior Engineers /Officers Location*: Ontario/Southwest/
Niagara Plant Group - Wed, Aug 6 2008 10:48 am
1 message, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/E-Bapa/t/ad43dd69882cca05?hl=en
Lisbon Didar Analysis - 1 new
-----------------------------
Forwarded as received Lisbon golden jubilee Darbar Darbar venue International
expo Lisbon, Portugal Date 13th July 2008. Deedar is an individual spiritual
journey. Jubilee Darbar is a very important milestone in Imam's life and so in
murids life. Lisbon Darbar was unique in the way it touched my intellect I saw
Hazar Imam in a totally different mood. He is meeting the Lisbon jamat after
10 years and after customary thanks to the government and blessings for
everyone he right away came to the point that "Jubilee is a time of
celebration and happiness" "Even a child's smile is a blessing and Happiness
is a gift from Allah" He wanted us to wear a big smile all day and rejoice and
be happy! Eat Biryani and Samosa and play Dandiya raas and just be happy! The
concluding message in London sent via Mukhi saheb after leaving the hall now
in Lisbon was an opening message! Then what was it all about BROCO…LLI? How
many people even understood whether he was recommending eating broccoli or not?
Or whether he was even trying to do that? The lady sitting next to me said "I
am now onwards going to bring broccoli for Mehmani at Jamat khana, because I
think Mawla likes broccoli" I stopped her quickly and said "Oh no, Please
don't he is finding it to be an ugly vegetable he does not like it" But
irrespective of who understood what every single person including a lot of
women who are always crying in the Deedar because of emotions started laughing
and clapping despite strong request by Alvaez not to clap but say salvat
loudly. But how can you not when Imam was literally pushing us to laugh and
clap? If some one is cracking joke and if you do not respond with a laugh it
will be an insult to the speaker! And how can you say Salvat when Mawla is
saying laugh!!! And be happy!! He just wanted his jamat to be happy! No matter
what! Goal achieved! He literally had to demonstrate that happiness is a gift
Take it! I am here to give you happiness! may be we have forgotten to be happy
and laugh! Peers have always said in the Ginans "DEEDAR takes away one's
difficulties (janjal)"(ashaji Parts) So if that is his promise why be unhappy?
Also I think the pressures of modern life and scantier and scantier social
life has produced sadness and wide spread depression everywhere. There is so
much depression among professionals and youth. And everywhere in the world in
general! Our youth has moved away from jamatkhana trying to find happiness in
materialism and drugs and alcohol. To deny the facts is a big mistake.like
ostrich trying to hide his head! Family ties are getting weaker and sometimes
even breaking. We are becoming more and more individualistic (selfish in
correct words) Imam wants us to come together, establish the bonds , work to
gather Have more celebrations. I remember when I first came to USA, 20 years
ago there used to be so many Jamat celebrations and involvement that we never
felt left out or lonely! There used to be New year's eve celebration, Thanks
giving, valentine day, two picnics, two big Dandiya Khushali and frequent
other dinners and get to gathers. We used to take our kids every where with us
because all these programs were family oriented rather than couple oriented.
And I used to see supervised mingling of kids, And many when they grew up
married in the community, less divorce rates fewer conflicts Now everything
has changed! No food is allowed in Jamatkhana (except now for GJ celebrations)
There are constant conflicts among Mukhi kamadias and jamat about food issues,
sometimes ugly! One ex Mukhi constantly said "there are ruhani khushias; you
don't need food for khushias"!!!!! Then why is Hazar Imam Saying eat Biryani
and Samosa and play Dandiya! What message is there? Universally FOOD is always
a part of expression of love and happiness cross culturally! How can we be
different? 20 years ago we were amazing! My children loved going to jamatkhana!
They were happy!! We were happy!!! Now there is nothing in jamatkhana for
them. Long announcements are boring!! Politics and favourism is disturbing and
frustrating. No one listens to the grievances of jamat. Mukhi kamadias are
afraid of Council for fear of no repeat appointments. The respect and love for
leadership is diminishing because injustice by leadership is obvious. Any one
who tries to fix the problem or help or try to do the right thing is quickly
black listed. Result? More and more persons are staying away from jamatkhana.
Jamat khana which used to be a great relaxing place even for singles and
lonely because they could interact with some one and have some emotional
outlet . It had great therapeutic value!!besides the prayer and it's benifit.
Now are finding pushed out because jamatkhana needs to be closed right away.
Everyone has to rush to work. Youth across the board is absent in jamatkhana
very worrisome! Where are they? Big question? Few young kids who are in
jamatkhana are preferentially treated by Mukhi kamadias which further puts off
other youth!! Mukhi Kamadias feel it is none of their business if they are not
coming to jamatkhana. It is the loss for them! What is the solution? Hazar
Imam is demonstrating by actions in his Farman make my jamat happy!! Make them
laugh!! My jamat is so wonderful and great they are easy to be pleased!! They
did not get broccoli joke yet all of them laughed and clapped! How cute it is!!
How much they love their Mawla! Let the relaxed atmosphere return once again
among the jamat Let our youth mingle among the community, so we do not deal
with youth depression and substance abuse To deny it is existing is the
biggest mistake! We will have fewer intercaste marriages and fewer divorces
inshaallah! Let us reduce the red tapes every where. Let us be able to trust
each other and not cheat!brothers and sisters do not cheat! Let there be more
honesty and broadmindedness and transparency! Let our leaders communicate all
important stuff to jamat also so Mawla does not have to talk about it in the
farman! It is not for their private use only! It needs to be shared! Also
share instances which can invoke more love for our Mawla.do not is selfish! "
Love for Imam" is the fundamental requisite for the murid to obtain full
benefit of the faith. When Mawla is coming after 10 years he must have so much
to talk about!! Instead he is talking about "THE BROCCCOLLLI…"and invoked a
laugh! He wanted us to be happy! He found a great need for that! It is pretty
hard to cry and weep when Mawla is cracking jokes! Every word and action and
gesture of Mawla has meaning to it, nothing is by the way It is our duty to
understand the exoteric as well as esoteric meaning to it! In council there
are so many boards there should be one board promoting "happiness" Happiness
Board! Allah's gift! Golden jubilee gift! Function being to take care of the
mental well being of the jamat, promote happiness give them laughs!! Aged
parents are also very depressed!!Professionals are overworked! Computers have
made them lose their social interacting skills. Result? Loneliness! Youth is
lonely and confused! Make them laugh! It will be the biggest blessing It will
be greatest Farman bardari! Let us stand up for weak and disabled! Let us make
the old people happy, get the youth in jamatkhana! Food is a connecting portal!
Why hate it? Biryani and Samosa are not bad! It is a powerful expression of
love unity care and generosity, all being principles of Islam! When child
comes home first thing mom does is gives FOOD! It is an expression of love and
care! Let there be more Biryani and Samosa and let us have fun with innocent
topics like Broccoli, and not at the expense of individuals! You can pretty
much have fun innocently with simple subjects without hurting anyone! Let us
have more Dandiya raas functions than less! Our jamat is Mashaallah very
generous! 1.4 million Pounds for an esoteric Awal Sufra on the Darbar day in
London! What bigger proof is needed for showing the incredible generosity on
the part of jamat! How much love for the Imam! Mashaallah let us all come to
gather to make our Mawla happier! Let us not be divided! Let "jamat's
happiness" be a motto from jubilee year onwards Yaali madad Dolly Chandani M.D.
[link] -- Wish you all the Best! Shenaz -- Narmeen Live simply. Love
generously. Care deeply. Speak kindly. Leave the rest to God - Wed, Aug 6 2008
6:36 am
1 message, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/E-Bapa/t/4cd64c7bf18ee6fe?hl=en
Fwd: Pir Ismailbhai Gangji - 1 new
----------------------------------
Worth a read. ---------- Forwarded message ---------- ...To: Moyez Kamani <
moyez.kam...@gmail.com>, assif habib <assifha...@gmail.com ...Pir Ismailbhai
Gangji - Wed, Aug 6 2008 6:43 am
1 message, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/E-Bapa/t/f85cf20c36bb2ea8?hl=en
For Princess Zahra - 1 new
--------------------------
Sharing. Bernhard Viehweber is a glass painter from Germany, trained at the
renowned Glass Academy in Hadamar, where he also successfully completed his
master course. - Tues, Aug 5 2008 7:05 am
1 message, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/E-Bapa/t/4434f282910aecb5?hl=en
FW: Job Posting Notification - 1 new
------------------------------------
... Dear Amin: A job opening matching your profile for a position of OCAD
STUDENTS!!!!!- Part-time Back-to-School on campus Promotions and Marketing!!!-
MAR099 has just been posted in our Career Section. If you would like to apply
online, click here or click Jobs to consult the list of other positions
currently available. If you do not wish to receive further job notifications,
please let us know by deselecting the check box labeled "Accept invitations by
email on career opportunities matching this profile." This is located in the
Basic Profile Information section at the top of the Candidate Profiler page.
To confirm, click here. We thank you for your interest in Mosaic. - Wed, Aug 6
2008 5:53 am
1 message, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/E-Bapa/t/7559243f8fa56d94?hl=en
Fwd: FW: Speech by Mahmoud Eboo - 1 new
---------------------------------------
---------- Forwarded message ---------- ...To: moyez.kam...@gmail.com ---------
- Forwarded message ---------- ...To: <sadru.pirb...@googlemail.com> ...
Regards Sadru *Subject:* Fw: Speech by Mahmoud Eboo If you have not already
heard this already. Anar *PLEASE TAKE TIME AND LISTEN TO THIS VERY INTERESTING
LECTURE, YOU WILL HAVE - Tues, Aug 5 2008 5:31 pm
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