Re: Dearth of headers.
Stuart
not.bo...@all.anymore says...
> On Fri, 17 Sep 2004 21:48:37 GMT, robot <ro...@rusty.com> wrote:
>
> >Why does alt.security.scramdisk have headers from only September 8th?
> >Articles in this group usually last for many weeks.
>
> It's the same for all text groups in alt.*
>
> Easynews gives alt.* text newsgroups a paltry 10-day retention so that
> they can give the DVD-hogs in the alt.binaries.* newsgroups up to
> 30-day retention.
>
> If you want to get reasonable retention in the alt.* text groups,
> you'll have to use one of the free text-only newsservers or get an
> account at just about any other premium NSP.
They could...
1. List the number of articles in each group
2. List the number of binaries in each group on the web
3. Give text retention to all groups with no binaries (unless the
group is control.cancel or or *test*)
4. Give text retention to all groups with only spam binaries (ie
duplicated binaries in greater than, say, 10 groups)
5. Give text retention to all groups with less than, say, 1 binary per
100 non-binary articles (or whichever numbers work best, after
excluding the binary spam)
6. Recheck daily (it'd be a script) so any groups which are newly
being used for binaries, or text, are appropriately allocated.
No doubt the above process could be refined. This is simply what could
do with the information available to customers, the only exception
being checking for spam, which may be possible with the global search,
but not possible from this side with the current group and file limits.
Even better would be the new server software, which should be able to
seperately spool text and binaries with different retentions, but we
don't have an ETA on that coming out of beta, so the above should be
eminently possible in the meantime...
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Stuart
Uni
> On Fri, 17 Sep 2004 21:48:37 GMT, robot <ro...@rusty.com> wrote:
>
>
>>Why does alt.security.scramdisk have headers from only September 8th?
>>Articles in this group usually last for many weeks.
>
>
> It's the same for all text groups in alt.*
>
> Easynews gives alt.* text newsgroups a paltry 10-day retention so that
> they can give the DVD-hogs in the alt.binaries.* newsgroups up to
> 30-day retention.
I find that hard to believe. You could probably fit all alt.* text
groups, for a single day, on one (1) DVD.
Uni
Stuart
not.bo...@all.anymore says...
> Still, there must be some reason they have to throttle the retention
> on those groups only when there's no reason to and no other NSP does.
It's not that they're throttling the retention. They're simply not
trying very hard to identify the text groups. Easynews will apparently
readjust retention for groups on individual requests to
sup...@easynews.com, or in this group if they notice the request.
Unfortunately though, that's not going to catch all text groups, and
new users will be constantly coming along, wondering why retention in
their group is so low.
--
Stuart
godzilla
>Why does alt.security.scramdisk have headers from only September 8th?
>Articles in this group usually last for many weeks.
let us know what text groups you would like longer retention in and
we'll add them to our text server.
we are working on new backend nntp code that will allow us to have
seperate spools for text and binary posts.. so ALL groups will have
very long text retention.
this new code will be alpha tested in the next 3-7 days at
alpha.news.easynews.com.
I'll make a post when it goes live.