Why we only get 1gb for doing GRID?
testaccount2004
your system and about $15.0 in utility bills. If you
normally use your pc only for 5 hours a day (5 days a
week) then you will have to pay extra $15.0 on your
electric bill (U.S. NE charge) if you decide to
participate in GRID and leave your PC on for 24h a day and
7 days a week. So my gripe is: If you are paying extra
and useing up your cpu just so the DoD can have better
weapons and EasyNews higher ranking then I would like
EasyNews to bump up the reward for participating in the
GRID project and listing EasyNews as one of the
beneficiaries. I mean if you get half a gig for filling
up a survey and survey virtually doesn't take any effort
on your part ($15.0 a month extra is effort since time is
money and money is time), then you should get higher
payoff for doing GRID and actually dedicating your PC. I
know all the cancer and humanity thing, I am sorry but
Bush does not pay for my Electric Bill neither does DoD.
Also if I accumulate 60 days of CPU time in one month then
will EasyNews credit me 4 gig or is 2 gig the max (per
month)?
testaccount2004
godzilla
wrote:
It's not about money and is 100% voluntary.
-- godzilla
godzilla
wrote:
>On Sat, 18 Sep 2004 00:47:15 GMT, godzilla <sup...@easynews.comm>
>wrote:
>Testaccount's references to the DoD amd military research on top of
>that money matters make me smell a troll.
I wouldn't doubt it though.. I know United Devices does do work for
the DIA and such.. not sure if they would throw those work units into
non-classified networks though.
godzilla
wrote:
>On Fri, 17 Sep 2004 23:42:29 GMT, testaccount2004 <n...@email.supplied>
I agree that it costs more to run grid.org on your machine.. not sure
if I agree with your figures though.
Also, don't most people leave their machine on all the time anyways?
Here is a good link for CPU consumption:
http://www.fact-index.com/c/cp/cpu_electrical_consumption.html
testaccount2004
I am not a troll, I contribute 11 machines to the cause as of this moment. I
work for bioengineering and photonic research for certain grands so I do know
some things about things. I would just like the site to consider crediting
it's users with more data bandwith if that specific user decides to sign up for
GRID. Logically speaking, if you look at the amount of energy exerted while
participateing in the survey vs participateing in the GRID you will realize
that .5gb for survey vs 1gb for 15 days of grid is kind of wrong. I mean here
you get .5gb for doing basically nothing in a term of 3 mintues it takes you to
fill out the survey vs. 15 days of your cpu cycles and hardware stress of doing
GRID. It's just simple ratios.
Cheers,
testaccount2004
P.S.
My figures came from an A64 system w/ 4 Raptors, Radeon 9800Xt, 1 gig of ram which
comes close to 350-400 watts (useing Measure-watt and my UPS).
Let assume 350 Watts so .35 Kwh with Mass Nstar it's $0.09 per Kwh and now system
usage of 24h vs 6 hours so 18 hours of extra usage per day. Now (1000/350 = 2.85
hours to equal 1Kwh = $0.09) so 18 hours in a day divided by 2.85 equals 6.3 extra
KwH which equals $0.56 extra per day now multiply that by 30 days which will now
euqal an EXTRA $17.0 per month. Now you must realize that the system will use most
of the power since you are RUNNING it at 100% all the time. Of course that does
not factor in the wear on your system and yes it does wear out...mostly your caps.
The caps are designed to lasst for about 3-4 years of continual usage, after that
the dielectric breaksdown.
godzilla
wrote:
my comment about people leaving their machine on all the time == the
increase in power consumption for grid.org would be at most the power
consumption delta between your CPU's max and idle states.
what about the 10's of thousands of grid.org participants that don't
have easynews accounts.. isn't it even more of an economic drain for
them as they are not getting the 2gb subsidy that you are? Why on
earth do they accept this?!
testaccount2004
I know unfreaking believable! But seriously all I am asking for is for the site to revamp
their reward statistics. In surveys you see people aksing for more bandwith...so you can
give them that by providing more GB rewards by participateing in the GRID. (like let say
2gb per 15 days or 1gb per 7 days that would be 4gb per 30 days which would be about 4
dollars ($10.0 for 10gig singup price). As you can see I am participateing in the GRID and
no I usually don't leave my pc on all day. And no without an award system I would not
participate. Why others are doing? Well I guess they really have a strong feeling of
purpose by doing this.
Basically all I am aksing for is for the site to take a look into my proposal of upping the
reward system for GRID participants. And yes DoD does send a packet or two of low level
data that can be spared and used as a double check against the system data or a procurosor
to the main data. I have nothing against it I am all for it since eventually somone will
find that specific molecule that allows them to do specific things, it's not a question of
if it's a question of when...so well it might as well be DoD (hell some of my equipment
grands come from subs).
Basically I am proposeing a better award system for GRID participants.