Thru-the-Fence Fees

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Johan

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Jun 17, 2026, 12:43:02 PM (4 days ago) Jun 17
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Good morning,

Background 
Last February, the Town's Airport Economic Development Advisory Board (AB) presented recommendations to the Town Council for a new Through-The-Fence fee structure.  Depending on the Town's interpretation, these fees could impact everyone in the airpark, even if you do not use the airport/EAP access points as a pilot. In April, the AB requested the EAP HOA board (HOA) to present comments on those recommendations. 

Near Term
So, tomorrow evening, as a member of the HOA, I will present our response, which is firmly against those recommendations.

I will update you all on Friday with the outcome.

Thank you to those who actively supported this effort!

Johan

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Patricia Miller

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Jun 17, 2026, 1:44:27 PM (4 days ago) Jun 17
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Thank you, Johan. I put in my two cents worth in February. A fee is something you pay to use xyz.  If you don't use xyz you don't pay a fee.They're suggesting a tax.

Pat Miller

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Scott deLuise

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Jun 17, 2026, 1:44:56 PM (4 days ago) Jun 17
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Johan, just so I’m clear, you don’t believe it’s fair that every lot that has access to the airport should pay a through the fence fee? 

You believe this, even though there is an outstanding appraisal on the value of through the fence on your property of $250,000 whether you have an airplane, hanger, or use either to access the airport?

Please advise.


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Airpark Guest

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Jun 17, 2026, 2:08:19 PM (4 days ago) Jun 17
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Asset appraisal value isn't a fee justification. Let's start with financial literacy first and go from there.

Regards

Richard Radcliffe

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Jun 17, 2026, 5:25:04 PM (4 days ago) Jun 17
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A point of clarification on Johan's email. As I understand it, the TTF fees would only apply to homeowners who have access to the airport, whether they use it or not, not every homeowner in the air park.

As to Mr.deLuise's point, which admittedly I don't quite understand, what do appraisals have to do with this? The bottom line is why should someone who does not not use the airport in any manner be required to pay for its upkeep? Issues of appraisal would seem to be irrelevant in this case.


Richard A. Radcliffe

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Erie, Colorado 80516

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Scott deLuise

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Jun 17, 2026, 6:00:29 PM (4 days ago) Jun 17
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I trust that the "financial literacy" comment was not directed at me, and that it's just the opinion of an anonymous member? 

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Scott deLuise

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Jun 17, 2026, 6:00:39 PM (4 days ago) Jun 17
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Richard, your good question deserves a good answer.

  1. If you don't have access via easement to the airport, you don't have a $250k bump in your value and  therefor should not be required to pay the assessment. This may or may not be reflected in your appraised value per Weld County but doesn't mean it's not there.
  2. The linkage between the $250k value comes at the time you sell your property and you've not supported the airport asset by paying your dues and respecting the easements. In a number of instances, the prior HOA board has not supported our nice neighbors who requested assistance when other nice neighbors built septic fields, landscaped, built homes or garages, or otherwise spoliated those easements, thereby eliminating access to the airport and reducing their values by $250k. I guess it depends on your moral and ethical perspective: should I pay for the upkeep of an asset that will bring my property an increase in value of $250k or freeload on those who do pay. Classic problem.

R. Scott deLuise, CCIM, SPPA

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From: Richard Radcliffe <ra.rad...@gmail.com>
Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2026 1:01 PM
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Subject: Re: [Airpark HOA] Thru-the-Fence Fees
A point of clarification on Johan's email. As I understand it, the TTF fees would only apply to homeowners who have access to the airport, whether they use it or not, not every homeowner in the air park.

As to Mr.deLuise's point, which admittedly I don't quite understand, what do appraisals have to do with this? The bottom line is why should someone who does not not use the airport in any manner be required to pay for its upkeep? Issues of appraisal would seem to be irrelevant in this case.


Richard A. Radcliffe

270 Commander Drive

Erie, Colorado 80516

(303) 570-8852

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Gerald Gienger

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Jun 17, 2026, 6:17:38 PM (4 days ago) Jun 17
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Johan,
In my opinion when the town purchased the airport out of bankruptcy, they refused to acknowledge and abide by any of the existing agreements in effect at the time. I believe that they created in essence a divorce from the homeowners  and removed any obligation for us to support the town's public use facility.  Those of us who want to have access use an FAA created program and pay  a fee for access. The non flying neighbors have no responsibility to contribute to the town's facility. 
Thanks,
Gerald Gienger

Tim Drnec

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Jun 17, 2026, 6:17:44 PM (4 days ago) Jun 17
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1. Homes that have easement access have been repeatedly sold on the market. The values of those homes, and by extension the value of airport access, is reflected in the real-world prices those homes have sold for and are therefore reflected in the appraised value of the homes in the Air Park. Taxes are paid based on those appraised values.

2. Let’s try to stick to the current fee structure discussion. 

Tim Drnec

On Jun 17, 2026, at 3:58 PM, 'Scott deLuise' via Erie Air Park HOA <eap...@googlegroups.com> wrote:

Richard, your good question deserves a good answer.

  1. If you don't have access via easement to the airport, you don't have a $250k bump in your value and  therefor should not be required to pay the assessment. This may or may not be reflected in your appraised value per Weld County but doesn't mean it's not there.
  2. The linkage between the $250k value comes at the time you sell your property and you've not supported the airport asset by paying your dues and respecting the easements. In a number of instances, the prior HOA board has not supported our nice neighbors who requested assistance when other nice neighbors built septic fields, landscaped, built homes or garages, or otherwise spoliated those easements, thereby eliminating access to the airport and reducing their values by $250k. I guess it depends on your moral and ethical perspective: should I pay for the upkeep of an asset that will bring my property an increase in value of $250k or freeload on those who do pay. Classic problem.

R. Scott deLuise, CCIM, SPPA
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Stephen Lloyd

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Jun 17, 2026, 8:19:14 PM (4 days ago) Jun 17
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I understand that the Advisory Board negotiated an agreement that unfairly treats homeowners the same as commercial property operators, charging each class the same rates.  Below is the case against this approach: 

While we support the airport’s goal of fiscal self-sufficiency, the "one-size-fits-all" pricing model is inequitable, economically unsound, and potentially conflicts with federal guidelines regarding "fair and reasonable" rates.

1. Distinction in Economic Value and Use (Revenue vs. Recreation)
A commercial lease is an "income-producing asset." Businesses utilize airport land to generate billable hours, sell parts, and provide services. Conversely, a residential hangar is a "cost-center" used solely for the storage of personal property. Charging a resident a "commercial rate" for non-commercial activity ignores the fundamental economic reality that the business user derives significantly higher financial value from the same square footage.

2. Disproportionate Impact on Infrastructure
Identical square footage does not equate to identical impact. Commercial operations (FBOs, Flight Schools, Maintenance) bring daily staff, high-volume customer traffic, frequent vendor deliveries, and heavy equipment usage to the airport’s common areas. Residential users typically have a negligible impact on airport roads, security gates, and parking facilities. Forcing residents to pay the same rate as high-intensity commercial users effectively asks private citizens to subsidize the infrastructure wear-and-tear caused by for-profit entities.

3. FAA Compliance and "Fair and Reasonable" Standards
Under FAA Grant Assurance 22, the airport is required to make its facilities available on fair and reasonable terms without unjust discrimination. The FAA’s own Airport Compliance Manual (Order 5190.6B) recognizes that airports may—and often should—establish different "classes of users." Establishing a commercial rate for a residential user can be viewed as "unreasonable" because the fee is not commensurate with the cost of the service provided to that specific user class.

4. The Risk of Hangar Devaluation and Displacement
Artificially inflating residential rates to match commercial market values risks "pricing out" the general aviation community that forms the backbone of this airport.

Closing Request:
We request that the Board conduct a formal Comparative Use Study before moving forward. This study should analyze the actual cost-to-serve for residential vs. commercial tenants. We believe such data will clearly demonstrate that a tiered pricing structure is the only way to ensure the airport remains both solvent and compliant with federal nondiscrimination standards.

  

Talking Points for a Public Meeting

  • The "Profit vs. Property" Point: "A business uses this land to make money; a resident uses it to store a plane. In no other sector of the economy—utilities, property tax, or zoning—do we charge a private citizen the same rate as a for-profit corporation."
  • The "Impact" Point: "Commercial tenants bring 50 cars a day through the gate and dozens of heavy deliveries. I visit my hangar twice a week. Why should I pay the same infrastructure maintenance fee as a high-traffic business?"
  • The "Fairness" Point: "The FAA requires rates to be 'fair and reasonable.' It is not 'reasonable' to charge a hobbyist the same rate as a flight school just because they occupy the same amount of dirt. Differentiation is not discrimination; it is fair accounting."

Your airport's Rules and Regulations or Minimum Standards document. Often, these documents already define "Commercial" and "Non-Commercial" users as separate entities, which gives you legal leverage to demand separate rate scales.


Stephen Lloyd

2380 Cessna Drive



Scott deLuise

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Jun 19, 2026, 2:45:58 PM (2 days ago) Jun 19
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Regards,

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Scott,

Credentials noted, though of everyone on this thread, a CCIM should be the first to flag the category error here.

The harder you justify this charge by the $250,000 it supposedly adds to property value, the less it looks like a user fee and the more it looks like a special assessment or a value-based property tax. Those are three different legal instruments with three different sets of requirements, and an appraisal satisfies none of them.

That's not my read; it's Colorado's. In Bloom v. City of Fort Collins, the Colorado Supreme Court held that a charge measured by property value is a direct tax on the property, while a lawful service fee has to be "reasonably related to the overall cost of the service", not to its resale value. A special assessment is its own box again: it must fund a specific improvement, be capped at each property's actual benefit, and can't be diverted to other purposes. The proposed charge is none of these.

So the appraisal answers a question no one asked. It measures value; a fee measures the cost of a service provided to those charged. Either the $250,000 is irrelevant, or you've just made the case that the Town is proposing a tax that needs a TABOR vote.

https://law.justia.com/cases/colorado/supreme-court/1990/88sa162-0.html

Class dismissed. An appraisal is not a rate study.

Regards

Braun Mincher

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Jun 19, 2026, 2:45:58 PM (2 days ago) Jun 19
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Johan,

Thank you again for taking the time to attend last night’s AEDAB meeting and present the Airpark-related response you described in your June 17 email below.

For those of us who were not able to attend, would you be willing to provide a brief update on how the meeting went? In particular, it would be helpful to know:

  1. How your presentation was received;
  2. Whether AEDAB took any vote or action on the resident TTF fee recommendation;
  3. Whether Jennifer Webb’s motion to rescind the resident TTF fee recommendation was discussed or voted on; and
  4. Whether you can share a copy of any presentation slides, handouts, white paper, written comments, or other materials that were provided to AEDAB.

I checked the Town’s meeting page and the Airpark website this morning, but I did not see posted minutes, video, final action, or presentation materials yet. I understand that official minutes are the Town’s responsibility and may take time, but a short community update in the meantime would be very helpful, especially given the limited visibility many residents have into these meetings and discussions.

I am also attaching, for context and documentation in this same thread, the supplemental comments I previously submitted to AEDAB on June 15, 2026 regarding the resident TTF fee recommendation, the public record, and community engagement. My intent is simply to make sure related resident concerns and materials are easier for neighbors to find in one place.

Thanks again for any update and materials you can share.

Sincerely,

Braun Mincher
2520 Cessna Drive
Erie, Colorado 80516
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Shaaron WestoverGoswick

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Jun 19, 2026, 10:16:30 PM (2 days ago) Jun 19
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Hello All,
 
I realize this is an important issue for some of you, but would you please stop selecting "all" when you send out these messages.  I'm really not interested in this.  We don't own a plane and there is technically no access to the runway from where we live unless someone wants to do a bunch of plowing and paving at their expense.  Plus, I think if you did your homework, you would quickly learn what the rest of us already know.  Check FAA rules and regulations for trying to charge people who don't use the airport & check out TABOR and other laws that will exclusively prevent you from implementing these charges.  I would have thought you would have done that before getting everyone riled up for nothing.
 
Thank you very much!
 
Shaaron Westover
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