If you cannot love an eternal torment god

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If you cannot love an eternal torment god

For the first 500 years after Christ, universalism was the prevailing
doctrine believed and taught by the Christian church.

http://www.tentmaker.org/books/Prevailing.shtml
Universalism The Prevailing Doctrine Of The Christian Church During
Its First Five Hundred Years

The author, J.W. Hanson wrote “The purpose of this book is to present
some of the evidence of the prevalence in the early centuries of the
Christian church, of the doctrine of the final holiness of all
mankind. The author believes that the following pages show that
Universal Restitution was the faith of the early Christians for at
least the First Five Hundred Years of the Christian era. He has aimed
to present irrefragable proofs that the doctrine of Universal
Salvation was the prevalent sentiment of the primitive Christian
church.

The salient statements and facts in all which will be found in these
pages show that the most and ablest of the early fathers found the
deliverance of all mankind from sin and sorrow specifically revealed
in the Christian Scriptures.” And they were using the Bible in its
original language. This online book also explains why and how this
changed.

Up until now, after reading this post, many believers in eternal
torment have said something like, “I truly sympathize with your
sufferings, but it’s what the Bible says that matters, not whether or
not it makes you suffer.” That’s why I want to say right at the outset
that many of the links posted here show that a correctly (literally,
not interpretively) translated Bible actually teach universal
salvation, not eternal torment, or even annihilation.

I’m 69 years old. The idea that God lets anyone suffer forever has
caused me more suffering (including a twelve year nervous breakdown
1966-78) than all the other sufferings of my life combined.

This suffering was caused by the fear produced by not being able to
love a god who would let anyone suffer forever and wondering what this
god would do to me for not being able to love him. Even though I was
and am trusting for my salvation in what Jesus accomplished by His
death and resurrection, through the power in the blood of His cross, I
was, and still am unable to love a god who would let anyone suffer
forever. Here are testimonies similar to mine.

http://www.tentmaker.org/articles/hells_fruit.html

http://greater-emmanuel.org/Hope4You/consequences.html

If you are like me and cannot love a god who would let anyone suffer
forever, you can copy and paste (if necessary) the following urls into
the address bar and find out that a literally (not interpretively)
translated Bible actually teaches universal salvation, not even
annihilation.

THE SAVIOUR OF THE WORLD

If necessary, copy and paste the following urls into the address bar.
http://www.tentmaker.org/articles/savior-of-the-world/circularity.htm

At the top and bottom of that same THE SAVIOUR OF THE WORLD page,
there is the following link to fourteen other writings in the same
series that are related to this same subject.
http://www.tentmaker.org/articles/savior-of-the-world/index.htm

Don’t kid yourself. If anyone suffers forever JESUS IS DOING IT TO
THEM

http://www.tentmaker.org/articles/savior-of-the-world/circularity.htm

THE GOD THAT CALVINIST AND ARMINIAN ETERNAL TORMENTORS PROFESS TO LOVE

The eternal torment theology of the Arminian Christian relies on so-
called “free will” and luck.

The god that Arminian eternal tormentors profess to love says to his
fallen creatures

“Unless you are lucky enough to find out about my son during this
lifetime, and even if you are that lucky, if you don’t have the good
sense to cooperate with my son properly before you die, then I am
going to raise you from the dead and I will sustain you alive in an
inescapable state of eternal torment forever.”

The eternal torment theology of the Calvinist Christian relies on God
alone, not “free will” at all. It is summed up by the word TULIP:
Total depravity, Unconditional election, Limited atonement,
Irresistible grace, and the Perseverance of the elect.

The god that Calvinistic eternal tormentors profess to love says to
his fallen creatures

"I created most of you for the purpose of torturing you forever.
However, I am going to choose a few of you undeserving ones to go to
heaven where you will be happy forever." John Calvin said there will
be infants a span long in hell because they were not among the elect.
(A span is the distance between the tip of the thumb to the tip of the
little finger.)

And then both the Arminian and Calvinistic eternal tormentors say that
the feelings that they have for this god of theirs is “love.”

To read a description of eternal torment combination Calv-Arminianism
see
ABSOLUTE ASSURANCE IN JESUS CHRIST – Charles Slagle
http://www.tentmaker.org/books/Absolute-Assurance-in-Jesus-Christ.html

This next url sums up the end result of all three
http://www.tentmaker.org/articles/savior-of-the-world/circularity.htm

Without God’s sustaining power everyone would cease to exist.
So if anyone were to suffer forever, our all-powerful God (Who is Love
in essence, not just loving) would be fully 100% responsible for it.
We would have to conclude that any definition of the manifestation of
“love-in-essence” includes eternally sustaining people alive in an
inescapable state of suffering. What a travesty; what a revolting
definition of love it is that God, Who is love personified, would
grant any creature a will so strong that they can choose themselves
into an irreversible state of never ending suffering!

Thank God the Bible does not teach such an insane idea!

Here is what the God that universal transformationists love and
worship with complete abandon will do. He will complete the process of
salvation for the first fruits of election, (the remnant chosen by
grace), after the first resurrection. Then He will complete the
process of salvation for the non-elect after the great white throne
judgment. For some, it will include an experience in the lake of fire.

Jesus died on the cross and rose from the dead to guarantee that any
necessary "kolasis aionian" (age-during corrective chastisement) will
be 100% effective in changing wrong attitudes. All acts of sin have
been forgiven for everyone. Attitudes cannot be forgiven. Attitudes
must change. This is what the lake of fire which is the second death
will do. It will last no longer than God sees is good for everyone
involved.

http://www.tentmaker.org/articles/savior-of-the-world/TheLakeOfFire-Eby.html

You can Google up good articles on this subject by typing in kolasis
aionian

Also see

http://www.tentmaker.org/articles/savior-of-the-world/index.htm

For anyone who cannot love an endless-hell god ---
BIBLICAL CHRISTIAN UNIVERSALIST RESOURCES

Copy and paste the following urls into the address bar

http://www.christian-universalism.com/links.html

http://www.christianuniversalist.org

Also see

Information, and frequently asked questions in support of a correctly
(literally, not interpretively) translated Bible teaching universal
salvation,

http://www.tentmaker.org/bloglinks.htm

http://www.tentmaker.org/sitemap.html

http://www.tentmaker.org/ScholarsCorner.html

http://www.tentmaker.org/articles/savior-of-the-world/index.htm

http://www.tentmaker.org/books/BibleThreateningsExplained.html

(If necessary, copy and paste them into your address bar)

and they will learn that the Bible actually teaches universal
salvation instead, not even annihilation.

Or, they will go to the search engine at the top of http://www.tentmaker.org
and will type in a key word or phrase from any argument or scripture
passage. Ten articles will come up refuting the claim that the Bible
teaches eternal torment or annihilation. Then they may click to the
next page and ten more articles will come up, and so on and so on for
many pages.

The many entries in my guestbook that is accessed towards the bottom
of my front page at http://greater-emmanuel.org/Hope4You/

and the many entries at http://www.tentmaker.org/visitorcomments.htm
show just how much this information is helping people.

Also see http://www.tentmaker.org/articles/hells_fruit.html

This was the information that enabled me to recover from a twelve year
nervous breakdown 1966-78, and it gives me great joy to keep learning
that it is helping more and more other people too!! I’m 69

I am also going to guide you to the testimony of a man whose
experience was almost identical to mine. Even the thought processes
that took him into, through, and out of his breakdown are the same as
mine. His name is Charles Slagle.
He answers the question, "Which view of salvation is true?"

http://www.tentmaker.org/books/Absolute-Assurance-in-Jesus-Christ.html

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We live in a fallen world in which God does not force men to love Him
or his word or to honor Him with their lives. The sins of mankind
cause devastation to all mankind and all of creation. Faith in God
challenges us to trust Him and allow us to walk this walk with His
help. We and loved ones are murdered, get sick and die, suffer
irreversible losses and yet we are to know that we serve a loving and
caring God. That type of faith only comes from God, not from human
understanding. Our very faith challenges us to know that our lives are
more than the here and now; our hope is in the Lord, our future with
him in heaven.

Hebrews 11:6 But without faith it is impossible to please him: for
he that cometh to God must believe that he is, and that he is a
rewarder of them that diligently seek him.

We are a part of creation and not the Creator, our limited
understanding causes us great pain in times of trial. But if we
sidetracked by that pain, we might miss the opportunity to share the
hope that is in Christ!

John 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten
Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have
everlasting life.

Romans 5:8 But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we
were yet sinners, Christ died for us.

Hebrews 13:15 Let your conversation be without covetousness; and be
content with such things as ye have: for he hath said, I will never
leave thee, nor forsake thee.

We all want good things in life and question what we deem bad. God
give us the faith to accept what we don't understand and realize that
God remains on the throne. God give us the measure of mercy we need
when we need it!