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Madhuri varshney

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Sushil ji,
 
As I told you that cleaning job of service lane in sector -3 has been started with great enthu but MCD guys have not cleaned the malba or the stones lying there. Rest pictures are self explanatory.
Regds
Madhuri

On Thu, Mar 1, 2012 at 10:25 PM, <sushil...@gmail.com> wrote:
This is not correct sir.
We have been working on the issue of garbage collection for long.In fact there was series of meetings and as per our feedback it is being and a special team is working on it sector wise.
If you have specific case please let us know so that it can be forwarde to concerned authority.
And one more request kindly raise the same issue which in thread else new thread may be created.

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Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2012 13:13:43 +0530 (IST)
Subject: Re: [DWARKA FORUM] At sec 7 opp sri niketan

Sir,
 
It is an everyday affair.  we may find it in all over dwarka. Civic body is not at all taking care garabage collection.
 
regards
 
C P Arora

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REJIMON C K

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Mar 2, 2012, 6:14:12 AM3/2/12
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It is not MCD guys it is DDA contractor.
The MCD SK's still Missing , while this private DDA contractor did little work.
I hope after clearnng sector 3 their next was sect 4 which is done .. Any update from their ?
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Madhuri varshney

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ok

Madhuri varshney

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Reji ji,
 
But two of them (ladies) are known to me since long and they are from MCD.
Regds

REJIMON C K

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i was referring to guys in the pictures with green apron
so that mean its now jointly done?

Madhuri varshney

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u r right.

NarayananSL

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Dear all

Would like to share & like to have your experience on change of garbagebin by DMSWL. I called up DMSWL as follow up of replacing bin which is badly smashed & broken wheel tilting towards one side resulting in spillage of garbage. I was informed by the supervisor that henceforth DMSWL will charge one time charge of Rs. 25000/- towards replacement by way of chq/DD. I told this is too high r u not suppose to supply free the bins moreover the condition of the bin is because of your staff who have not handled it properly. This way have opened one more source of fund & it will be a major hit to the society.

Seek your advise if someone can provide me the contact person no with whom this issue may be discussed.

Thanks

SL Narayanan
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REJIMON C K

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Mar 3, 2012, 8:27:28 AM3/3/12
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NOT A SINGLE PENNY TO BE PAID PLEASE.

Ask them to send a demand notice and written request on their letter head.
 

 

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Anil Rajput

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Mar 3, 2012, 4:22:06 AM3/3/12
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We are paying property tax to MCD, Sanitation is
their job , they are to provide the bins and clean
the city regularly .
Anil Rajput

REJIMON C K

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Mar 3, 2012, 8:42:49 AM3/3/12
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Exactly that the fact.
Let the DMSWSL formally raise the demand in written then we will see.

Sanjeev Goyal

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In one of my meeting with DDA, it was pointed out by DDA itslef that malba collection is not within the purview of MCD. It is with DDA.
 
I don't know if there is any technical definition of garbage.
 
Thanks
 
S K Goyal

REJIMON C K

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Mar 3, 2012, 9:15:56 AM3/3/12
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Sanjiv
Do u have any document by Dda stating
Malba definition may b there in MSWHR 2000
The municipal authority is responsible for Garbage as well as C&D waste
DDA is responsible for anything within land EMTY under possession
Rest transfer to MCD by Dda

sushil...@gmail.com

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Mar 3, 2012, 10:54:25 AM3/3/12
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Absolutely correct Reji.No question of paying money .

It is ridiculous.Even if it is in contract how MCD can enter in such agreement.This is the responsibility of MCD and that is why they are charging tax.How any MCD can say that we are giving our work to u and u charge the amount from user who has already been or likely to be received by us.This is ultra wires.
Again reiterating only way available is legal remedy and such contract is supposed to be scraped.

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REJIMON C K

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Add to our demands with Councillor candidates
1. Cancel the concession agreement with DMSWSL (RAKMY) for Dwarka for default & breach.

I am sure all are in agreement

Sudha Iyer

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Absolutely. No question of disagreement.


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Add to our demands with Councillor candidates
1. Cancel the concession agreement with DMSWSL (RAKMY) for Dwarka for default & breach.
I am sure all are in agreement

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Absolutely correct Reji.No question of paying money .

It is ridiculous.Even if it is in contract how MCD can enter in such agreement.This is the responsibility of MCD and that is why they are charging tax.How any MCD can say that we are giving our work to u and u charge the amount from user who has already been or likely to be received by us.This is ultra wires.
Again reiterating only way available is legal remedy and such contract is supposed to be scraped.
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NOT A SINGLE PENNY TO BE PAID PLEASE.

Ask them to send a demand notice and written request on their letter head.
 

 
On Sat, Mar 3, 2012 at 2:24 PM, NarayananSL <naraya...@gmail.com <mailto:naraya...@gmail.com> > wrote:
Dear all

Would like to share & like to have your experience on change of garbagebin by DMSWL. I called up DMSWL as follow up of replacing bin which is badly smashed & broken wheel tilting towards one side resulting in spillage of garbage. I was informed by the supervisor that henceforth DMSWL will charge one time charge of Rs. 25000/- towards replacement by way of chq/DD. I told this is too high r u not suppose to supply free the bins moreover the condition of the bin is because of your staff who have not handled it properly. This way have opened one more source of fund & it will be a major hit to the society.

Seek your advise if someone can provide me the contact person no with whom this issue may be discussed.

Thanks

SL Narayanan

On Friday, March 2, 2012, Madhuri varshney <vmadhu...@gmail.com <mailto:vmadhu...@gmail.com> > wrote:
> u r right.
>

> On Fri, Mar 2, 2012 at 8:15 PM, REJIMON C K <reji...@gmail.com <mailto:reji...@gmail.com> > wrote:
>
> i was referring to guys in the pictures with green apron
> so that mean its now jointly done?
>

> On Mar 2, 2012 7:55 PM, "Madhuri varshney" <vmadhu...@gmail.com <mailto:vmadhu...@gmail.com> > wrote:
>
> Reji ji,
>  
> But two of them (ladies) are known to me since long and they are from MCD.
> Regds
>

> On Fri, Mar 2, 2012 at 7:51 PM, Madhuri varshney <vmadhu...@gmail.com <mailto:vmadhu...@gmail.com> > wrote:
>
> ok
>

> On Fri, Mar 2, 2012 at 4:44 PM, REJIMON C K <reji...@gmail.com <mailto:reji...@gmail.com> > wrote:
>
> It is not MCD guys it is DDA contractor.
> The MCD SK's still Missing , while this private DDA contractor did little work.
> I hope after clearnng sector 3 their next was sect 4 which is done .. Any update from their ?
>
>  
> On Fri, Mar 2, 2012 at 2:56 PM, Madhuri varshney <vmadhu...@gmail.com <mailto:vmadhu...@gmail.com> > wrote:
>
> Sushil ji,
>  
> As I told you that cleaning job of service lane in sector -3 has been started with great enthu but MCD guys have not cleaned the malba or the stones lying there. Rest pictures are self explanatory.
> Regds
> Madhuri
>

> On Thu, Mar 1, 2012 at 10:25 PM, <sushil...@gmail.com <mailto:sushil...@gmail.com> > wrote:
>
> This is not correct sir.
> We have been working on the issue of garbage collection for long.In fact there was series of meetings and as per our feedback it is being and a special team is working on it sector wise.
> If you have specific case please let us know so that it can be forwarde to concerned authority.
> And one more request kindly raise the same issue which in thread else new thread may be created.
>
> Regards
> Sent from my BlackBerry® smartphone
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> Subject: Re: [DWARKA FORUM] At sec 7 opp sri niketan
> Sir,
>  
> It is an everyday affair.  we may find it in all over dwarka. Civic body is not at all taking care garabage collection.
>  
> regards
>  
> C P Arora
>

> --- On Thu, 1/3/12, RAJEEV SOLANKI <rajeev...@hotmail.com <mailto:rajeev...@hotmail.com> > wrote:
>
> From: RAJEEV SOLANKI <rajeevsolanki@hotm

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Anoop Rohera

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Yes absolutely.

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True - not a penny to be paid.
 
The Contractor for handing waste should be worried about the garbage bins and we should somehow try and get a copy of the Agreement MCD signed with them. Anyway the  garbage bins procured and supplied by these guys are of inferior quality. Aren't these guys suppose to supply two bins in one location (one for Biodegradable Substance and the other to store Non-Biodegradable) ? Plus there are many conditions stipulated regarding garbage bins - are they following all these stipulations - I am sure these guys are losing money somewhere and trying to offset it with cash rich Dwarka !!!
 
The best to is write to Ramky Enviro directly and seek their answer on this payment ?? Let them state that, public will have to pay for it, then we take this up with MCD.
 
Rama

REJIMON C K

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Rama,
It was already taken up higher up in Ramky who are another brand of Reliance type guys seems to be.
 
Each and every Para of this CONTRACT is Breached as we had through them.
 

1.       Doorstep collection (Segregated, Municipal Solid Waste) from the designated area

Breached the Contract

Comment

Door to Door collection:

        

The collection service has to start from door of the MSW producer i.e. source. The bidder shall collect segregated garbage (biodegradable and non-biodegradable) in an auto tipper containing two-bins, having colour coded system as per MSW (M&H) Rules 2000 and a sound Management Information System (MIS) for monitoring of MSW collection, aimed at 100% MSW pick up.

 

The colour coding of the bins (and also of the corresponding transporting vehicles) have to be as per the MSW (M&H) Rule 2000– green for bio-degradable waste, white for recyclable waste and black for other waste.

Efficiency has to be achieved by deployment of mechanized system. Manual systems will be allowed only on those roads where mechanical system may not be feasible due to lesser right of way. The project proponent is required to give an indicative flow-sheet (showing the capacity and type of vehicles to be employed) at the RFP stage.

 

Note: Bin(s) of required size [in any number, as per their requirement] to segregate the MSW at source shall be purchased/maintained by the producer/generator him/her self.

 

 

 

NO DOOR TO DOOR in Entire Dwarka Sub-City(Sector 1 to 23)

 

 

No bins were provided with COLOR CODED

 

 

It may be graded semi-mechanised

 

 

2.       Lifting and transportation of sweeping silt from the concession area.

 

 

Transportation of MSW:

 

In view of the large area and long road network, one transfer stations for each zone is proposed. The waste collected from the doorsteps is brought to the transfer station if required, where it is/would be shifted to transfer trailers [no transfer of MSW at ground]. Bulk refuse carriers would be deployed to take the MSW transferred in these large bins and or transfer trailers to the site for processing and disposal. Collection vehicles operating in the areas between the disposal site and the nearest transfer station may be sent directly to the disposal site (site for processing and disposal).

Different types of waste would be transported in different vehicles which would also be colour coded as above. From the transfer stations, different types of waste would be sent to respective destinations for further processing and final disposal.

The transportation vehicle shall be fixed with Geographic Positioning System (GPS) and a sound MIS based monitoring mechanism. All the vehicles would be fitted with GPS tracking equipment. The GPS would be accessible from the Urban Local Body (ULB) control room, also. The ULB Control room shall be set up by the BOT Operator.

 

As per record NO existence of Transfer Station in Dwarka.

 

 

 

 

 

Collected in one truck irrespective Blue or Green

 

Not a single Vehicle found GPS and as per internal source in MCD No Control Room with access GPS Data

 

3.       Transportation of the collected waste in segregated form, to Processing Facilities

 

 

Processing facility:

 

The work at the Narela-Bawana site can be divided into three broad categories:

(i) Works relating to the site development,

(ii) Works related to construction and operation of waste processing unit(s) and

(iii) Works related to the development and operation of engineered landfill site.

 

This is for SLF/DEMS to verify

 

4.       OTHER TECHNICAL DETAILS:

 

 

[C]            Awareness Programme:

 

The bidder shall organize and conduct public awareness programs for ensuring segregation/separate collection of waste at/from source. Two percent of tipping fees; payable to the bidder shall go to Escrow account and this fund shall be utilised by the bidder for organizing and conducting public awareness programs [interval to be decided by the MCD, in consultation with IC and the bidder]. The bidder shall engage a firm of international repute for implementing the awareness programme. Independent Consultant will supervise this activity during the entire concession period.

 

NOT a single AWARNESS campaign till Nov 2011 from July 2009

What is now learned another Institution with name of RAKY FOUNDATION is doing some awarness campaign while the contract is with DMSWSL and not with RAMKY FOUNDATION. MCD confirmed this and No THIRD PARTY

 

5.        Swept Material/Silt:

It is proposed that the concession area shall be free from Dust Bin/Dhalao. The Safai Karamcharies of the MCD [of that particular ward] shall bring the swept material/silt after sweeping of road and cleaning of small drains [of size less than 4 feet depth as well as height] in wheel barrows/Tri-Cycle Rickshaw etc. The bidder shall ensure the availability of compactor/tipper trucks [in required number] at the designated place between 8.00 A.M. to 11.00 A.M. [365 days in a year] to collect the swept material/silt. From these designated places the swept material/silt shall be transported to the Narela- Bawana site; developed by the bidder.

6.        Organizing and conducting public awareness programs for segregation/separate collection of waste at source and

7.        The successful bidder will be required to submit a detailed operational plan with complete details of the movable/immovable infrastructure and time schedule for its implementation of the system within 30 working days after the execution of the agreement.

7.

8.        The performance evaluation shall be based on criteria of measurement on daily work and the payment for work done shall be on per day basis proportion to the points obtained in daily performance evaluation for collection of Biodegradable, Non biodegradable collected from sources of generators doorstep i.e. from premises to premises, building to building, properties to properties and from street sweeping to processing/ landfill site. The evaluation of the processing and Land fill site shall also be made.

9.       Looking to the contract period of work of 20 years duration, due care should be taken for planning of the services for their total integrated approach by the bidder.

Not a single location found SK's Swept Material have been taken care by DMSWL at least in Dwarka

 

 

 

 

As above till date no PAP

 

As  per RTI response no OPERATIONAL Plan exists

 

Payment is based on the weight of the truck load not on PERFORANCE. Also without independent consultatns approval of the bills and scoring done by Corrupt set of DEMS officials.

 

 

 

 

 

3 Year performance is evident and this contract breach by all means.

 

 

 



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