Opinion about Semi High Mast Lights being installed by SDMC in Housing Societies of Dwarka

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panka...@gmail.com

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Dec 23, 2013, 11:52:51 AM12/23/13
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Dear Fellow Members,

  • Maybe in Sept 2013 or earlier SDMC had allocated funds for installation of Semi High Mast Lights (12 Meters) in DDA and CGHS societies. Soon after Election Code of conduct was enforced so only a few societies of Dwarka Sub-City could get these lights in their premises.  Now, remaining CGHS societies are also also being allotted with one such light and the authorities would require consent of CGHS management before installation of the same.
  • Sometimes it feel strange that the same corporation was unable to order for the repair of street lights already installed in front of societies. It also couldn't provide minimal lighting in the deserted back lanes or parks behind most of the societies. Now maybe more than 2 Lakhs have been sanctioned for each society to have this huge pillar of steel. Above that another 3 - 4 Lakhs annually are estimated to be spent on maintenance of all Mast lights installed in an MCD Ward say Matiala.
  • In my personal opinion these lights should get installed at traffic intersections / parks / markets but not in group housing societies. As most of societies already have so many energy saving CFL’s and we should strive towards reduction in Electricity Consumption not increasing it by having High Mast lights. 
However, I would be glad to know the view of the fellow members who have got these Semi-High mast lights of 12 Meters installed in their premises. Request you to please provide your opinion so that other societies may decide on whether to have the same installed or not.


I could think of following Pros and Cons of having these mast lights; members can suggest more points: - 


Pros

  • Better Illumination in society premises, park and street in front or rear of the society. Existing CFL / street lights can be switched off. Also, no need of installing halogens whenever there is some celebration / gathering in the park.
  • SDMC is distributing something in free so we should not refuse it even though we don’t really want it.
  • High power consumption of this lights would get compensated by the promised of government to reduce power bills by 50%.

 Cons

  • These high capacity lights would light up the flats at night and the resident’s may have to put up extra thick / dark curtains to get proper sleep at night.
  • We teach Energy Conservation to our kids and still want to consume more power.
  • Higher electricity consumption should be avoided at any cost. A populist promise of the upcoming govt. of bill reduction must not lead to wasteful power consumption.
     Request all to provide their opinion / views [and votes :-) in favor or against "High Mast Lights in CGHS Societies" as its the time of referendums, today we got a govt in our city after a sort of referendum].

Regards,


Pankaj

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Dec 27, 2013, 3:35:13 AM12/27/13
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Dear All,

I urge fellow members to respond with their views and opinions about the High Mats Lights...

Regards,

Pankaj

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Arun Banerjee

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Dec 27, 2013, 12:50:26 AM12/27/13
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Will update on street light their updation, maintenance, repair etc. in the first week of Jan.'14.


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Dec 26, 2013, 2:05:24 AM12/26/13
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Thanks Mr. Menon,

What is your opinion about these Semi High Mast Lights. Would be glad if you can share your views too.

Regards,
Pankaj
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Date: Thu, 26 Dec 2013 14:55:40 +0800 (SGT)
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Subject: Re: [Dwarka Forum-] Opinion about Semi High Mast Lights being installed by SDMC in Housing Societies of Dwarka

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Prem Bihari Mishra

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Dec 26, 2013, 1:45:50 AM12/26/13
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It may be better if the high mask light is installed in such a manner that it provides light to society/DDA-pocket back side and back side lane.  


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p. menon

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Dec 29, 2013, 12:18:40 AM12/29/13
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Before commenting on Lights, benches & swings (Joolas) supplied by Mr.Rajesh Gahlot & Mr.Sumesh Shokeen to Societies and DDA Pockets:

- Two years back UPA Govt. hv written off Rs.17,000 crores loan to farmers.
- In Tamil Nadu, Jaya Lalita Govt. is distributing colour televisions,  rice at Rs.1 & Rs.2, full meals at Rs. 2 & 5.  These heavily subsidized TVs and rice are smuggled to neighbouring states at higher rates.
- In UP the young leader is distributing free laptops.
- etc., etc.
All these distributions are purely misuse of public funds, advertisement grimaces, to gain votes.  If these lakhs of crores of  funds misused during last few years were spent on education, health, employment generation, transport, energy, etc. country would hv reached to such a level where no need of distribution of freebies.  

P.Menon
 


On Saturday, 28 December 2013 1:50 PM, Prem Bihari Mishra <pbmish...@gmail.com> wrote:
It may be better if the high mask light is installed in such a manner that it provides light to society/DDA-pocket back side and back side lane.  
On Mon, Dec 23, 2013 at 10:22 PM, <panka...@gmail.com> wrote:
Dear Fellow Members,
  • Maybe in Sept 2013 or earlier SDMC had allocated funds for installation of Semi High Mast Lights (12 Meters) in DDA and CGHS societies. Soon after Election Code of conduct was enforced so only a few societies of Dwarka Sub-City could get these lights in their premises.  Now, remaining CGHS societies are also also being allotted with one such light and the authorities would require consent of CGHS management before installation of the same.
  • Sometimes it feel strange that the same corporation was unable to order for the repair of street lights already installed in front of societies. It also couldn't provide minimal lighting in the deserted back lanes or parks behind most of the societies. Now maybe more than 2 Lakhs have been sanctioned for each society to have this huge pillar of steel. Above that another 3 - 4 Lakhs annually are estimated to be spent on maintenance of all Mast lights installed in an MCD Ward say Matiala.
  • In my personal opinion these lights should get installed at traffic intersections / parks / markets but not in group housing societies. As most of societies already have so many energy saving CFL’s and we should strive towards reduction in Electricity Consumption not increasing it by having High Mast lights. 
However, I would be glad to know the view of the fellow members who have got these Semi-High mast lights of 12 Meters installed in their premises. Request you to please provide your opinion so that other societies may decide on whether to have the same installed or not.

I could think of following Pros and Cons of having these mast lights; members can suggest more points: - 

Pros
  • Better Illumination in society premises, park and street in front or rear of the society. Existing CFL / street lights can be switched off. Also, no need of installing halogens whenever there is some celebration / gathering in the park.
  • SDMC is distributing something in free so we should not refuse it even though we don’t really want it.
  • High power consumption of this lights would get compensated by the promised of government to reduce power bills by 50%.
 Cons
  • These high capacity lights would light up the flats at night and the resident’s may have to put up extra thick / dark curtains to get proper sleep at night.
  • We teach Energy Conservation to our kids and still want to consume more power.
  • Higher electricity consumption should be avoided at any cost. A populist promise of the upcoming govt. of bill reduction must not lead to wasteful power consumption.
     Request all to provide their opinion / views [and votes :-) in favor or against "High Mast Lights in CGHS Societies" as its the time of referendums, today we got a govt in our city after a sort of referendum].

Regards,

Pankaj
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Rajesh Garg

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Dec 28, 2013, 4:06:26 AM12/28/13
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Dear Friends,
 
we got installed high mast light in our Society Premises. We are finding it useful. Out of 6 lights on Mast, we put-on only 2 lights and it is sufficient light. Further we are keeping off about 14 nos.society lights each of 60 watts, so 840 watts off. Using 2 lights of High mast consume 800 watts, so saving of about 40 watts for our society.
 
regards,
 
Rajesh Garg


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ashok gulaty

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Dec 28, 2013, 9:42:27 AM12/28/13
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Thanks for the lights.Very effective and really required

SK MALIK

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Dec 28, 2013, 10:44:43 AM12/28/13
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12 Mts Mast cover area of 60 Mts radius circle
Use full if you need in illumination in area say 60 X 60 Sq Mts
Shall be installed at least 60 Mts away from building structure
In most of CGHS/RWA this much area is not available
Lamp wattage is 400 W, sodium color light
You can switch 2/ 4/ 6 lamps with three switches
Power consumption will be 0.8, 1.6 & 2.4 units per hour
You can adjust angle & tilting of lamps
Top light is always good for security lighting
CGHS/RWA are not using regularly due to running cost
 
In most of CGHS/ RWA it is not required may be expensive in running cost
SDMC is silent about after sale service/ maintainance erc, but very clear about power consuption

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Sanjeev Goyal

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Dec 28, 2013, 3:34:05 AM12/28/13
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There are a few points:

(I) The installation location is important, the area covered should be
outside lanes as well,
(ii) There can be 2 on-off switches to cover lights e.g. half of
alternate lights may be switched off at 11 pm to save electricity,
(iii) Since maintenance is not cheap, if society feels that this is
not required they should refuse it, one should not accept it only
because it is coming free.
(iv) It may not be easy to switch off the lights fixed in public
street to avoid duplication, payment for which is also being made by
different agencies.


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Krishna

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Dec 30, 2013, 2:43:40 AM12/30/13
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Hi

One thing is i have seen on few societies front gates, 2 bulbs are lighting the front of gate but rest two are lightng the top of tree which is sheer wastage.. 
Timely operation as suggested by Sanjeev is good. Turn 1 bulb off after certain time.

regards
Krishna

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Jan 3, 2014, 12:50:59 AM1/3/14
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Dear Fellow Members,

I thank you all for your views and opinions on these high mast lights. 

Our management have taken a decision and rightly refused these Semi High Mast Lights and kid rides/slides. As we already have so many Energy Saving CFL's in our society. Also, our Society Playground already have swings and slides for children and no extra space is available for the doles given by SDMC.

We wish that unused High Mast Lights may get installed in the adjoining parks which are always deserted and without any lightning. Swings can also be put up in the parks for the benefits of common public.

Regards,

Pankaj
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On Monday, December 30, 2013 1:13:40 PM UTC+5:30, Krishna wrote:
Hi

One thing is i have seen on few societies front gates, 2 bulbs are lighting the front of gate but rest two are lightng the top of tree which is sheer wastage.. 
Timely operation as suggested by Sanjeev is good. Turn 1 bulb off after certain time.

regards
Krishna
 
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On Saturday, December 28, 2013 5:34:05 PM UTC+9, Sanjeev wrote:
There are a few points:

(I) The installation location is important, the area covered should be
outside lanes as well,
 
(ii) There can be 2 on-off switches to cover lights e.g. half of
alternate lights may be switched off at 11 pm to save electricity,
 
(iii) Since maintenance is not cheap, if society feels that this is
not required they should refuse it, one should not accept it only
because it is coming free.
 
(iv)  It may not be easy to switch off the lights fixed in public
street to avoid duplication, payment for which is also being made by
different agencies.
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Arun Banerjee

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Jan 3, 2014, 3:17:04 AM1/3/14
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I agree with Pankaj Ji. These masks be high or semi are energy guzzling items whose cost will ultimately will be borne by the residents of the society.


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M Jayaraman

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Jan 3, 2014, 4:29:28 AM1/3/14
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We have also taken the same decision for the same reasons as given by
Pankaj ji!
We also wish the High Mast Lights may get installed in the adjoining
parks and even the streets, which are always deserted!

M Jayaraman - Abhiyan CGHS Ltd

panka...@gmail.com Jan 02 09:50PM -0800

*Dear Fellow Members,*

I thank you all for your views and opinions on these high mast
lights.

Our management have taken a decision and rightly refused these Semi
High
Mast Lights and kid rides/slides. As we already have so many Energy
Saving
CFL's in our society. Also, our Society Playground already have
swings and
slides for children and no extra space is available for the doles
given by
SDMC.

We wish that unused High Mast Lights may get installed in the
adjoining
parks which are always deserted and without any lightning. Swings can
also
be put up in the parks for the benefits of common public.

Regards,

Pankaj
==================================================

On Monday, December 30, 2013 1:13:40 PM UTC+5:30, Krishna wrote:





Arun Banerjee <banerj...@gmail.com> Jan 03 01:47PM +0530

I agree with Pankaj Ji. These masks be high or semi are energy
guzzling
items whose cost will ultimately will be borne by the residents of
the
society.



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