Re: Cloanto Amiga Forever Keygen 14
Eliane Lebouf
I have been very interested in getting into the Amiga scene, but I have
had some problems and wanted to ask for some guidance. When I first learned
of Amiga emulation I got very excited, because I always wanted to have an
amiga, but I couldn't afford one back when they were popular. One website
"Amiga Emulation Zone" that used to be run by Shane Monroe, really sold me
onto the Cloanto "Amiga Forever" software package. This package was supposed
to let me run an emulated Amiga legally and I was all for that. Since I
never had an amiga before, I really did not know how to use it and pretty
much stopped messing with it after a month. I couldn't get deluxe galaga to
work (which I really wanted to play) and had no idea what commands to run
from the command prompt. So I had paid for something that I could not use
(It was only $19.95, so no big deal) Well recently I tried to use the Amiga
in a box software enhancement which supposedly can help amiga newbies
actually use the amiga, but it has a requirement that says I need the 3.1
Workbench ADF file. Well it turns out that Amiga forever only provides an
adf file for workbench 1.3, and the workbench 3.1 is pre-installed (I guess
that means it's an hard disk image). I think the 4.0 upgrade of amiga
forever might have the adf I need, but I feel the $19.95 upgrade price is a
little high, especially if it does not help me run the Amiga in a box
upgrade. Is there a way for me to convert the workbench 3.1 files provided
by amiga forever into an adf file? I feel that cloanto is trying to rip me
off (I mean they want me to pay full price for an upgrade of software I
purchased 6 months prior to the upgrade?). I am sorry if I posted an off
topic question to this newsgroup.Eric--
Either you didn't read the information at AIAB site about the 3.1WB thing
and how to use your Cloanto install to make a bootable 3.1 adf for
AIAB OR you never bought the Cloanto package to begin with.I'll give you the benefit of the doubt but you'll have to do the work.It's a RTFM issue. Go back to the AIAB site and read about how you
can make a useable 3.1 boot adf for the AIAB package from
your Amiga Forever setup. The info is right there on the site, not
hidden or under arcane links.
James Vigliotti
Thanks for the benefit of a doubt thing. I do have Amiga forever, and I
was not asking for a copy of the adf file. I just wanted to know if there is
a way to convert my image of the 3.1 to an adf. Before I posted my request I
did check on both the Amiga Forever and Amiga in a box pages and neither had
any information on that subject. I just re-checked the Amiga in a Box site
and I still didn't see any FAQS on how to convert what I have to an adf. I
even perused the forum and found nothing. If you have a specific URL with
the info you say is there that would be very helpful. Maybe I should ask
Cloanto to email me a copy of the ADF, since I thought that what I was
paying for when I bought the software from them originally anyway. I just
thought someone here could point me in the right direction, but instead my
integrity is put in question. Thanks for making me feel welcome. EricP.S. I have no idea what an "RTFM issue" is.--"Angelo Vigliotti" wrote in message
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If you read the links and forum on AIAB, it's there as well.
Of course it's part of Cloanto's package (the make_floppy).
Why do you think they have top billing at the AIAB site? ;-) James Vigliotti
Do you ever attempt to be helpful? Ever pretend to be useful? All I ever see
from you are criticisms and flames. I am sure your Amiga knowlege would be
helpful to someone if you weren't such a jerk about everything.
Whatever the slagging..
I think Eric has a point: it DOES NOT read on the aiab site how you could
transfer the hd installed WB 3.1 to a diskimage..
Cloanto provides the information... (duh..)
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Now let's all wear our Happy Helmets & enjoy the rest of the day
You really haven't been around long have you? I've given hundreds of help
bits to quite a few people. Try google for past responses from me and show
me all of these criticisms and flames you claim. Be careful in the reading
and
don't attribute others quotes to me from follow-ups missing the conversation
attribute indents. If you followed the thread, THIS was a response to....
Whom obviously did not read the links (it was on the main page)
And just wanted to quip claiming foul over his own mistake blaming
someone else.Fierman, you owe me one "oops yes it is there, shouldn't have been
so quick to judge" James Vigliotti
You really are funny. All of what I posted came exclusively from the
AIAB website. NONE of it came from Cloanto's website.
Did you miss the direct links and quotes from those links for some
arcane reason.You find yourself wrong and wish to play semantics over it being
"within" a file from the AIAB website instead of admitting that
it's actually coming from the website and not Cloanto's per se.And the text I posted was NOT from Cloanto's website even
if they might have that info there as well. All of it came from,
funny that, a readme on the main page that pointed to the documentation
in the AIAB download, ON the same page. Imagine that. James Vigliotti
Thanks to some instructions from James I was able to get AIAB up and
running. I did not realize that my question would cause so much trouble.
Regardless of what all of you say the information for how to setup anything
Amiga related is very hard for someone who never actually worked with a real
Amiga. I imagine a lot of people buy the CDROM version of Amiga Forever and
they never have to worry about making an 3.1 ADF file. I purchased the
online version "which for space reasons" does not include any extras. Well
I'm up and running now, thanks to James. Just reading through this thread
some of you remind me of System Administrators I have had to work with in
the past. I can just see your eyes rolling when someone posts a newbie
question. Well thanks for the help.Eric--
Long story short, back in the early 90s Commodore, a company that for close to two decades ranked as a giant of computing, collapsed. Years of mismanagement, poor leadership, if not outright shameful, had taken its toll on the once fierce giant; And as the saying goes: the bigger they are, the harder they fall. And boy did Commodore fall.
So all that buying and selling we saw in the 90s, with Amiga changing hands left and right, had nothing to do with saving the Amiga. The Commodore legacy was reduced to a piece of meat and thrownto the wolves, each ripping into its patents left and right. So while graphic, the piece of meat in this analogy held an estimated value of a billion dollars.
When Commodore fell, the vultures moved in quickly. People have focused so much on the Amiga computer and branding aspect of Commodore, that we often neglect that the true value of such a giant was never the end-product, but the intrinsic values of their patents and technological inventions.
Very few knew the identity of the party now in possession of the Commodore patent portfolio until quite recently. It caused quite a stir online when I published the name of the owner last year (both on this blog and Amiga Disrupt on Facebook).
To give you some examples of the epic battles at hand: they have argued in court over the right to use a checkered bathing ball, you know those you can buy almost anywhere and that resemble a french table-cloth? Oh yes I kid ye not.
It can be difficult to distinguish between Hyperion and Aeon, so lets start with a few words about that. Hyperion is ultimately a software company. They started (if I recall correctly) as software house porting PC games to the Amiga platform.
Until recently Aeon and Hyperion have focused completely on their Next Generation system. Aeon creates the hardware and Hyperion does the software. Hyperion also offers the older legacy roms and Workbench in their webshop. But until recently they have been more interested in selling next-generation software and machines.
The response from the community was quite frankly outstanding. Finally a proper update for both Workbench and the kernel! Everyone was ecstatic and the whole scene was filled with positive hopes that things were finally moving forward. This was after all the first real update since Napoleon was in office!
So the reason Cloanto took Hyperion to court for the 13th thousand time, has nothing to with open-source (a rumour that was planted before Xmas). It is motivated purely by greed and the fear that the Amiga might actually spring back to life.
Sure it may be legal but I find it somewhat tasteless. profiting on UAE for all those years, and not even a symbolic sum for the guys that keep UAE going? I mean, had they actively participated and contributed to the UAE codebase I would have applauded them for it. Sadly Cloanto presents itself as a blatant opportunist more than a preserver. They say one thing, but their actions speak of something else entirely.
With a new Workbench and kernel out in the wild, Cloanto find themselves in a difficult position. Who would want to buy an older kernel or Workbench when there is a newer, 2018 version available? Well, I would like all of them to be honest, but yes I obviously want to use the new versions as much as possible.
The Amiga A1222 is a Next Generation PPC Amiga that should retail at around USD 450. This product was supposed to reach the market in Q1 2018, but with the lawsuit(s) and drain on funds, getting the product out the door has been impossible. So much so that Cloanto is now damaging Hyperion (and Aeon) by proxy.
There is a whole generation that has grown up without any knowledge of Amiga. Who have no clue what Commodore was and represented. So while you guys have been fighting about who gets to sit where, the boat has left and you missed it.
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