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Sib6.x: My score disappeared

Posted by Tom Herman - 18 Jan 01:26AM Hide picture Hi,

I have a score I'm working on which doesn't come up when I try to open it. All I get is the background and the keypad image. Nothing else comes up. If I go back to Open and click on this score again, I get a message saying I'm already editing the score and do I want to lose my changes? Okay, so where is it? Sometimes a score gets pushed off the screen and needs to be coaxed back into view, but I can find no way to do this in this case. Also I've looked behind other objects where it could be hiding. No trace. All my other scores show up normally.

Any ideas?

Thanks,

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Posted by Laurence Payne - 18 Jan 02:52AM Hide picture Do you see anything if you switch into Panorama View?

Or if you hit the Home key on your computer? Back to top Allthreads Re: Sib. 6.x: My score disappeared

Posted by Peter Ballinger - 18 Jan 04:59AM Hide picture While we are on the topic of disappearances, "my" disappearing Mixer thread disappeared too, 5 minutes ago, but not before I followed Laurence's advice and restored the Mixer panel. Thanks very much. That solved, my method of selecting instruments in GPO is now to choose them in the mixer, but not try to use them! (otherwise endless search followed by crash). Instead, save the file, close it and reopen it in "recent files": as it returns, the chosen instruments are loaded and ready to play. Don't understand it, but will live with it, I suppose.

Win7 Professional 64bit, 2 x 3.0Ghz, 8GB RAM, Sib 6.2, GPO, Sound Essentials Back to top Allthreads Re: Sib. 6.x: My score disappeared

Posted by Steven Edis - 18 Jan 11:12AM Hide picture Tom, to make your score reappear, try pressing Ctrl+A (or Cmd+A) to select the whole score, then press any arrow. Back to top Allthreads Re: Sib. 6.x: My score disappeared

Posted by Ronald Pearl - 18 Jan 01:03PM Hide picture This would occasionally happen to me in 6: I would open a score, and it would be blank. If I clicked on the Navigator, the score would suddenly appear. You might try that.

Ron Pearl

7.1.2

Posted by Jeff Hale - 18 Jan 02:58PM Hide picture I assume you are on Windows. If so, right-click the tab on the Windows tool bar at the bottom of the screen and click on "restore." That should do it.

windows XP Professional, Sibelius 7.1.3 Back to top Allthreads Re: Sib. 6.x: My score disappeared

Posted by Tom Herman - 18 Jan 04:08PM Hide picture Thanks to you all: Jeff, Ron, Steven, Peter and Laurence! I had so many responses I couldn't try everything, but in fact, clicking on the navigator (Ron's idea) brought my score back. I should have thought of this because the onscreen part of my score often flips to the wrong page when I try to drag it rather than use the keyboard to move it. The navigator brings it back to the correct page. Somehow I didn't try that.

Thanks to you all again.

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Posted by Laurence Payne - 18 Jan 04:12PM Hide picture All the suggestions basically did the same thing! Back to top Allthreads

Sib. 7.1: No Title and composer

Posted by Peter Hignett - 26 Oct 10:43AM Hide picture I am in the middle of arranging a hymn tune and have set up the Score Information with title/composer etc. I have checked that this information still shows in FILE>INFO, but it doesn't show on the actual score, nor does it print out. I don't know what I've done to hide this information. Must be something stupid as I'm a new user. I would appreciate a solution please. Back to top Allthreads Re: Sib. 7.1: No Title and composer

Posted by Roy Moore - 26 Oct 11:52AM Hide picture You can add Title/Composer/Lyricist etc without using the score info page. Right click on first page of score.

Text>Other System Text > Title(Composer/Lyricist)

If you want to use the score info box see thread below. Basically you use a wildcard to access the text from the score info page. This can be useful if you use the Title in several places as a header or on blank page as well as first page of music.

-bin/helpcenter/chat/chat.pl?com=thread&start=612910&groupid=3

Roy Moore

Sib 7.1.3,Windows 7 SP 1 pro x64 8gb ram,2x quad core 2.5ghz ,

Audiophile 2496, JABB 3, GPO 4, Rock & Pop, Garritan Steinway, EWQLSO platinum

Posted by Laurence Payne - 26 Oct 11:59AM Hide picture It's better to consider the Score Info page as reflecting what you put in the score rather than controlling it. Insert the Title as a text object, in Title Text style, at the top of your score. The Info page, for what it's worth, will follow. Back to top Allthreads Re: Sib. 7.1: No Title and composer

Posted by Peter Hignett - 26 Oct 04:55PM Hide picture Many thanks Roy and Lawrence for your advice. I have now been able to reinput the missing score information.

It's a mystery why it just disappeared though, especially as I followed the tutorial guidance for adding title/composer etc when setting up the score and it was certainly visible to start with. Back to top Allthreads Re: Sib. 7.1: No Title and composer

Posted by Bob Zawalich - 26 Oct 06:08PM (edited 29 Oct 01:55AM) Hide picture If you add title and composer data in Quick Start, then Sibelius will put that data in the Score Info block, and will also, independently, create system text items that contain that text. The system text items do not contain wildcards, and so there is no actual link between the Score Info data and the system text.

You can then delete the Score Info data without changing with is in the score.

If you have Score Info data, you can instead create System Text data (text style Title or Composer, for example)in the score, and type a wildcard into the text item. So in the title you could type /$Title/ (Edit: this should be \$Title\).

When you leave editing mode, the contents of the corresponding Score Info item (Title in this case) will appear in the score, and if you change the Score Info data, the change will be reflected in the text.

If you are not using wildcards, text items just display what you typed into them. If you use wildcards and delete the Score Info data, the text will be blank.

So it pays to understand how these types of text work, and how wildcards work. And also that QuickStart does not create text with wildcards, but just text items with the text you typed in to the appropriate field.

Bob

Sib 1.2 - 7, Windows 7 Pro SP 1 64 bit, 4 G RAM. Year 2012. Back to top Allthreads Re: Sib. 7.1: No Title and composer

Posted by Roy Moore - 28 Oct 12:09PM (edited 28 Oct 12:16PM) Hide picture A word of warning when using Wildcards, you should only edit this text from the score info page or the score (which brings up the score info page) If you change (say Title) in a dynamic part, even though this brings up the score info box, it breaks the link with the Score, it will no longer reflect changes in the score's - score info page. You have to delete and create a new dynamic part to restore the link.

A wildcard is also useful for adding 'Date/Time Footer'

Roy Moore

Sib 7.1.3,Windows 7 SP 1 pro x64 8gb ram,2x quad core 2.5ghz ,

Audiophile 2496, JABB 3, GPO 4, Rock & Pop, Garritan Steinway, EWQLSO platinum

Posted by Peter Hignett - 28 Oct 08:33PM Hide picture Thanks very much chaps, for your expertise. I am a beginner, so shall avoid Wildcards etc. for the time being! Its enough for me grappling with the rest of the complexities of this excellent program. Peter Back to top Allthreads

Finally, I isolated one particular sequence in the score where the problem is especially noticeable and I then created a new score from scratch in which I replicated the section down to the last note, using the same playback configuration and Mixer settings as the original score. Whilst playback of the original score continues to glitch, the second, new score plays back just fine. However, if I copy elements (such as a staff) from the original score into the new one, the problem then infects the new score as well.

It seems the problem is with my custom House Style specifically. I exported the original score (the full one, not the above-linked excerpt) to MusicXML and imported it back into a new score. The problem was gone. Yet when I import my custom House Style, the problem returns immediately. Hitting Ctrl+Z to undo the House Style import gets rid of the problem again.

Depending on how far fetched the variations you mention actually are, the described behaviour could be due to a setting of Espressivo or even Molto Espressivo in a complex multipart score with many expression marks.

Yes, you can save as a MIDI file (which will contain all the note information for each instrument in the Sibelius score as a separate track when imported into Cubase) and then do all the production you want in Cubase - as you say, the reverse. Both programs can import/export MIDI files so they can communicate note information between them quickly and easily.

In larger scores you will often have combined staves in the score, flutes 1&2, clarinets 1 &2, horns 1&2 etc. However in the parts, there needs to be one instrument per staff. If we pick up where we left off in my last blog post, we now need to hide the staves horn 1, horn 2, horn 3 and horn 4 in the score. The key to this is using the Sibelius feature of hide in score and show in parts.

Select the the Horn 1, Horn 2, Horn 3 and Horn 4 staves in your full score page view from bar 1 to the end of the score (make sure focus on staves is not on), then go to the Home Tab>Hide or Show>Show in parts. You will see all the notes etc in those staves disappear. Then with those 4 staves still selected, go to the Layout Tab>Hide empty staves. The staves will be hidden in the score but show in the parts and in panorama view.