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Aakash

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Oct 8, 2009, 7:09:12 AM10/8/09
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I would like to bring it to the attention of the blog members and the
chairperson of the blog something that they should have thought of
earlier.

I understand that you have a so called anu legal consultant who is not
allowed to practice law in uae. I have developer friends who have been
to this anu and they feel that she is playing both sides and have
stopped going to her.

As both developers and investors go to her im surprised that you
people with your many millions of durhams have not thought about
"conflict of interest"?????

Ali P

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Oct 9, 2009, 10:51:10 AM10/9/09
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I have read of the person you have mentioned and that she and others
were actively providing assistance to the group. This is as per the
post from Mohammed Ali several months ago.

We should try to make sure we don't disenfranchise people who are
helping us. Protect yourself before engaging the services of a firm/
person and ask to be provided written assurance that there are no
conflicts of interest with your developer or companies and associates
related to the developer so your doubts are removed or later on you
can take them to task if you find proof.

The person you mention was not recommended to me by the group leader.
So maybe some members are using her independently for assistance.
Only local licensed law firms with arabic fluency are allowed to plead
cases in court.

There are two firms that Nigel / Farah posted that they had negotiated
fees with for litigation, one has been named by a member and the other
has not been named. These posts should be in the past discussion
history.

The law firm Farah provided me the contact for, when I asked her, has
a good reputation as per local standards and are the only local
reputable firm in Dubai that I have heard of that charge one fifth of
what other not so well known local firms want to charge upfront.

The rest of the fee, which is significantly lower than norm, is
supposed to be paid upon payment of monies by the developer. The
figures they charge were in a public post by Nigel in this group.

I am not using the recommended law firm at this time and am using
firms based outside the UAE for legal advice as my case is a bit
different.

I cannot comment on this instance, but in general, people I have
talked to as result of meeting them in this group are aware of
potential conflicts and understand that people are here, first and
foremost, because of their own self interests. So everyone has to be
careful and ask questions before engaging someone to provide
assistance.

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Oct 11, 2009, 10:37:30 AM10/11/09
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Muhammad Ali

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Oct 11, 2009, 3:43:55 PM10/11/09
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Dear All

First I thought not to reply to this email but on second thoughts since my
name was mentioned in these emails so I thought of putting some facts right.

First of all Anu was agreeably appointed as group consultant by Nigel in a
larger committee meeting and so her name was circulated by him, Farrah and
other committee members from day one.

Secondly never in any email it was mentioned that she is a lawyer who will
represent any of us in the court of law, she isn’t a practicing lawyer as
per UAE laws and so she was only appointed as an advisor for those who want
to seek her advice. It was always mentioned that since she knows a lot of
developers so it will be good to seek her assistance to seek mutual and
amicable settlements. Since she has always been involved with RERA so she
had been instrumental in arranging meetings and paving way for our group to
be known to various RERA and land department officials including the CEO.

I am sure not only me but a lot of our members will agree that they did
benefit from her however I will speak only for myself. I had a very
complicated case with a developer and it was her out of the way help without
charging me even a single dirham that I am AlhamdulAllah in a very good
shape now. Since that developer was her client too so she told me very
clearly that since it will be a conflict of interest so she wouldn’t
participate with me in ay legal cases against her and referred me to various
law firms from which I chose one. In the mean time she kept on trying to
achieve an amicable solution for me outside the court. The point I am trying
to make here is that she was upfront in telling me that she has a conflict
of interest so she can only guide me and refer me to good law firm but
cannot be a party.

I am not here trying to defend her or sell her services but I thought it
will be good to share my experience and put some facts together. However we
all can have personal experiences so I would request that if someone has got
any comments kindly prove them with concrete facts in public so that even if
I am wrong in my judgement I should have solid reason to believe so because
while pointing fingers we do forget that if one is towards someone else the
other four are pointing towards us.

Last but not the least after one and a half year of court cases I did come
to the conclusion that it is always better to reach and out of court
amicable solution if possible rather than wasting your time and money in
courts and still reach no where. (this was Anu's advice one and a half year
ago)

Ali

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Subject: [Dubai Property Investors] Re: legal consultant


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david parwiz

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Oct 11, 2009, 4:04:17 PM10/11/09
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Dear ALL,

I 100 percent agree with Ali and i was one of the first members of this group.  Anu has never given me or anyone that i have known any wrong advice.
Like Ali and Anu said try to settle with the developers , because there is no hope in courts.

David p

Imran R

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Oct 12, 2009, 8:00:20 AM10/12/09
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Has anyone had any luck settling with Damac?

steven

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Oct 13, 2009, 8:55:20 AM10/13/09
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I also agree with what Mr. Ali has mentioned above, the advise which
Anu gives is very practical, she never encourage investors to have
litigation unless there is surely no hope. I also have experience that
after hard & hard negotiation, finally we got through with developer
with some sort of settlement. Her advice to me was helpful as well.
steven
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Anu

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Oct 12, 2009, 9:23:09 AM10/12/09
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Dear Members Of The Blog,

Greetings.
I would like to introduce myself as Mrs. Anu Mangal.
I am a partner in Lawyer Point Management Consultancies. A company
duly registered in Dubai and authorised to carry out duties Of
Management Consultancy in the Emirate.
I am posting into this blog, since I have noticed that a few of the
members are apprehensive about my position as a legal consultant /
lawyer in Dubai’s Real Estate Domain.

I would like to reiterate that no where in this blog, or elsewhere
online and also in the real world have I made any claims to be a
Lawyer or a Legal Consultant.
My company , partners and I conduct business in the capacity of
Management Consultants advising Clients, developers and Investors on
Real estate & Compliance Issues.

We help our clients in the Real Estate Domain and also outside it on
issues of Corportate & Documentary Compliance.
We also help them in conducting Due Diligence Process for their
various investment and Development options and also during Business
Development Processes like Mergers And Acquisitions.
We specialise in advising clients on complete compliance and paperwork
with Governmental agencies like The Dubai Lands Department, RERA ,
Labour and Immigration.

In the process of the above procedures, if there are legal issues that
have to be handled by a Lawyer or a Licensed Law firm then we advise
our clients and put them on to appropriate “ Local “ entities like
Galadhari Advocates and M/s Hyder Bin Hyder to name a few.

We also have an in-house division that aids clients in setting up
legally compliant entities both in side Dubai and also in the various
FreeZones in the UAE.
It would also be noteworthy to mention that more than half of our 300
or so clients are individuals who have some kind of compliance or
contractual issues in their businesses and affairs.

As a professional I do represent Individual Investors as well as
Developers. So personally I feel that the feeling of existence any
bias towards developers is unfounded.Most of the initial memebers of
the Investors Group are well aware that I was actively invloved with
them ,in assisting the Group to rpresent themselves in RERA as a group
and also in organizing meetings in RERA with the officials to
resolve issues amicably .

On the personal front I hold a Master’s Law Degree by qualification
and I believe that this personal asset has helped me to understand the
needs of clients better even though I do not practise or claim to
practise law in the UAE.
In the early years of my career I have worked for one of UAE’S most
famous law firm as a Legal Consultant.That though is purely FYI.

I am posting this entry purely to put on record that I as an
indiuvidual or as part of my Company, ‘am not a Lawyer or a Legal
Consultant...and I have made no claims whatever to be one.


I sincerely hope that I have been able to clear any apprehensions
regards to my position in Dubai’s Real estate Domain. Please find my
co-ordinates appended below, for any further clarifications you may
need.

Regards Only,

Anu Mangal

rakes...@gmail.com

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Oct 14, 2009, 12:44:40 AM10/14/09
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Good ANU,

Relax and help as much as you can.CRITICISM IS A PART OF HUMAN LIFE,SOME SPEND THEIR LIFE TIME DOING AND SOME TAKING IT.

REAL STRONG HUMAN BEING IS THE ONE WHO CONTINUES GOOD WORK WITH ALL THE CRITICS AROUND.

We ALL need to appreciate the WORK she has been DOING with NO EXPECTATION OF ANY RETURN.

Folks all of us LOOK INSIDE ourselves and we will know we are all FEELING WE ARE IN A DIFFICULTY DUE TO OUR OWN MISTAKES-nobody put a GUN to our head to WRITE THOSE BIG CHEQUES to INCOMPETENT(some of them)DEVELOPERS.

Let us STOP criticising and leave ANU to continue the GOOD WORK for the benefit of the REAL ESTATE MARKET.

Rgds.
Rakesh

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Subject: [Dubai Property Investors] Re: legal consultant


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Oct 14, 2009, 12:54:54 AM10/14/09
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Well said Rakesh
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adnan h.

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Oct 18, 2009, 1:49:02 PM10/18/09
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Dear forum members,

This topic has caught my attention. I am aware of this legal person
who setup meetings and collect a fee from individuals on the pretext
that other individuals need to get paid but she eats it in the middle.
Anupma you lie to people, you represent both developers and investors
and you collect "fees" that never reach the intended party. The more
the person is in trouble the more you extort them. Anupma you should
leave investors alone. they have lost enough money as is. Stop preying
on them. Owner of the blog please get rid of this evil person

Adnan

Imran R

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Oct 18, 2009, 2:15:46 PM10/18/09
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Adnan,

I don't know of Anu... and I don't know you.. but just as easy it is to make claims in the online world, it is easy to make false claims. Therefore, if you have anything to say, please back it up with facts. Whether someone decides to entrust anyone with money is up to the individual, but making claims without any basis is pretty useless.

So back up what you've said or just stay put please.

Imran

2009/10/18 adnan h. <ahuss...@gmail.com>

Adnan A. Butt

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Oct 18, 2009, 3:27:18 PM10/18/09
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Imran,

How do u want me to back my claims I can't post my poa and reservation form on this group even if u want that I won't mind posting that as well.


Adnan Arshad Butt


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Date: Sun, 18 Oct 2009 19:15:46 +0100

Adnan A. Butt

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Oct 18, 2009, 3:28:45 PM10/18/09
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Sorry imran your last email was addressed to other adnan I thought u send that to me.


Adnan Arshad Butt


From: Imran R <imran....@gmail.com>
Date: Sun, 18 Oct 2009 19:15:46 +0100

Muhammad Ali

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Oct 19, 2009, 12:44:18 AM10/19/09
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Dear Mr. Adnan

As I mentioned before as well and a lot of members agreed with me too before making allegations you must have proofs. It is unacceptable to read such allegations and mud slinging towards various members of the blog who happen to help others and earn such dirt. 

If you do not have a proof like Mr. Imran very rightly said as well I am afraid if I were Anu I would take you to court for such a nasty email. Please make sure whatever we write or say can have repercussions for us and others. My advice to you is that please reveal your true identity with facts against Anu and only then you can win support from the rest of the world otherwise it can be more damaging for the group rather than you only because people and government agencies will loose faith in whatever is being posted on the group and we will loose all the good work we have achieved by now.

Ali

Imran R

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Oct 19, 2009, 4:49:24 AM10/19/09
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Adnan,

The comment wasn't directed to you, but to the Adnan with the email address, ahuss...@gmail.com

and in reference to how someone can back  up their claims, simply give facts based on what happened, when, etc.. rather than having the attitude of.. "i don't trust this person and neither should you".

Imran

2009/10/18 Adnan A. Butt <adnan....@cmreonline.com>

tajmahalr...@gmail.com

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Oct 19, 2009, 5:30:47 AM10/19/09
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Do you have proof that she has done any thing wrong. Plz give give your mobile no, when you reply

Anu

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Oct 20, 2009, 1:36:01 AM10/20/09
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Dear Forum members ,

I have already clarified my stand and definitely I am open to any
criticism and allegation but please note that any false allegations
being placed without disclosing identity and solid proof shall force
me to initiate necessary action .

Further such baseless allegations cannot stop us from doing work that
is positive towards acheiving amicable settlement options .

Please feel free to call for clarification if any.


Regards
Anu Mangal
Partner
Lawyerpoint ,
Office No 201, Al Nasr Plaza
Oud Metha, Dubai,
United Arab Emirates.
Email: con...@lawyerpoint.net

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Thanks ali ,u said what I wanted to say.
Anu

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From: Muhammad Ali <m...@ma1world.com>
Date: Mon, 19 Oct 2009 08:44:18 +0400

Anu

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Oct 19, 2009, 6:00:01 AM10/19/09
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Dear Forum members ,

I have already clarified my stand and definitely I am open to any
criticism and allegation but please note that any false allegations
being placed without disclosing identity and solid proof shall force
me to initiate necessary action .

Further such baseless allegations cannot stop us from doing work that
is positive towards acheiving amicable settlement options .

Please feel free to call for clarification if any.


Regards
Anu Mangal
Partner
Lawyerpoint ,
Office No 201, Al Nasr Plaza
Oud Metha, Dubai,
United Arab Emirates.
Email: con...@lawyerpoint.net

On Oct 19, 1:30 pm, tajmahalrealest...@gmail.com wrote:

adnan h.

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Oct 21, 2009, 11:41:41 AM10/21/09
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Imran,

I suppose you are right; my temper got the better of me. I however do
have proof and will be contacting the chairpeople of the blog
regarding this

Thanks

On Oct 18, 10:15 pm, Imran R <imran.ras...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Adnan,
>
> I don't know of Anu... and I don't know you.. but just as easy it is to make
> claims in the online world, it is easy to make false claims. Therefore, if
> you have anything to say, please back it up with facts. Whether someone
> decides to entrust anyone with money is up to the individual, but making
> claims without any basis is pretty useless.
>
> So back up what you've said or just stay put please.
>
> Imran
>
> 2009/10/18 adnan h. <ahussei...@gmail.com>

m...@ma1world.com

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Oct 21, 2009, 2:02:33 PM10/21/09
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Sure adnan being part of the exective committee we will all be interested in seeing the proofs. My cell number is 0555583283.

Ali

Nick Jasani

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KKDubai

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Oct 25, 2009, 10:09:26 AM10/25/09
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I would like to add comments on my experience with Anu :-
 
My colleague was detected with cancer and was told by the developer where he had invested his money that they were ready to give back his 20% payments but RERA required them to do a lot of paperwork and pay for Oqood registration which would take a lot of time.
 
Since my colleague needed the funds for his treatment urgently, I contacted Nigel (before he left Dubai) to ask if he could help me in getting in touch with the right people in RERA to expedite the cancellation and refund process,
 
He referred me to Anu.
 
Not only did Anu not charge me a penny for her help but she also saw to it that the cancellation and refund process was completed in record time and personally collected the documents from RERA on behalf of my colleague (as he was in London for his treatment) handed over the documents to the developer, collected the refund cheque from the developer and dropped it off to our office.
 
Therefore I for one can vouch for Anu.
 
KK
 


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Nader Sanati

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any good law firm anyone can suggest???please


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