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David Hecht
Jul 15, 2013, 4:25:22 PM7/15/13
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The latest version of these are now at the usual spot. I have also added
a PDF that states what I currently use as the tile quantities. The
changes are summarized in the ReadMe.txt file.
All the changes shown have been tested except for the pre-printed PRR
base. The PRR and the NYNH appear to be the weakest of the seven
companies, but giving the NYNH a pre-printed base with access to the
revised Hartford-Springfield hex has substantially improved their lot.
By doing the same for the PRR, we allow them to achieve their
destination or to go to the mine in a single turn, thus allowing them to
run (on the assumption that both they and the Erie open) for $130 with a
single 2-train (this assumes they buy a mining rights token).
The other issue that remains open is the status of the mining concession
itself. At the moment, the mining concession is represented by two +$40
bonus tokens. There are indications that--even after restricting the
bonus to only once per OR--this may still give a substantial advantage
to both the president of the purchasing corporation, and of course to
the concessionaire.
I see two possibilities:
1. Change the bonus tokens from two +$40 tokens to four +$20 tokens.
This would allow basically all the nearby companies to gain access to
the mines, while at the same time making the bonus less formidable. The
private company would likely last longer (providing its $20/OR revenue)
but the concessionaire wouldn't get all of his $80 investment back so
quickly (there have been plenty of games where both bonus tokens go
before the end of the first pair of ORs!). An extra $80--or even
$40--may well mean an entire extra share for the concessionaire, which
is significant.
2. Same as above, but eliminate the private company itself as well. The
money for the tokens would now just go to the bank. This would take away
the perceived advantage of the private company owner. The obvious
disadvantage is that the first tranche of the auction would now only
consist of the remaining private (P1 aka #0, the Erie Canal Company) and
the three pre-NYC companies (#1, #2, and #3). One possible approach
would then be to merge the two tranches of the auction. In order to
ensure sale of the three pre-NYC companies, a round of passes would
still result in a $10 reduction in face value to any unsold pre-NYC
companies only.
I would appreciate any thoughts, alternative suggestions, or other
comments. However, allow me to point out that we are in the final stages
of the development process: therefore, please avoid suggestions that
entail adding more rules or components. We are, at this point, largely
in a reduction-simplification-elimination phase.
a PDF that states what I currently use as the tile quantities. The
changes are summarized in the ReadMe.txt file.
All the changes shown have been tested except for the pre-printed PRR
base. The PRR and the NYNH appear to be the weakest of the seven
companies, but giving the NYNH a pre-printed base with access to the
revised Hartford-Springfield hex has substantially improved their lot.
By doing the same for the PRR, we allow them to achieve their
destination or to go to the mine in a single turn, thus allowing them to
run (on the assumption that both they and the Erie open) for $130 with a
single 2-train (this assumes they buy a mining rights token).
The other issue that remains open is the status of the mining concession
itself. At the moment, the mining concession is represented by two +$40
bonus tokens. There are indications that--even after restricting the
bonus to only once per OR--this may still give a substantial advantage
to both the president of the purchasing corporation, and of course to
the concessionaire.
I see two possibilities:
1. Change the bonus tokens from two +$40 tokens to four +$20 tokens.
This would allow basically all the nearby companies to gain access to
the mines, while at the same time making the bonus less formidable. The
private company would likely last longer (providing its $20/OR revenue)
but the concessionaire wouldn't get all of his $80 investment back so
quickly (there have been plenty of games where both bonus tokens go
before the end of the first pair of ORs!). An extra $80--or even
$40--may well mean an entire extra share for the concessionaire, which
is significant.
2. Same as above, but eliminate the private company itself as well. The
money for the tokens would now just go to the bank. This would take away
the perceived advantage of the private company owner. The obvious
disadvantage is that the first tranche of the auction would now only
consist of the remaining private (P1 aka #0, the Erie Canal Company) and
the three pre-NYC companies (#1, #2, and #3). One possible approach
would then be to merge the two tranches of the auction. In order to
ensure sale of the three pre-NYC companies, a round of passes would
still result in a $10 reduction in face value to any unsold pre-NYC
companies only.
I would appreciate any thoughts, alternative suggestions, or other
comments. However, allow me to point out that we are in the final stages
of the development process: therefore, please avoid suggestions that
entail adding more rules or components. We are, at this point, largely
in a reduction-simplification-elimination phase.
Chris Shaffer
Jul 15, 2013, 5:34:04 PM7/15/13
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Four +20 tokens seems a bit too nerfed - everything is equal and there isn't any interesting competition. How about trying three +30 tokens? This would retain the competition for the tokens while still reducing the impact of the overly large run bonuses.
Chris
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Jul 15, 2013, 5:55:10 PM7/15/13
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Or to make the competition really fierce, four tokens: +40, +30, +20, +10?
Or to make it a bit less imbalanced, two +30's and two +20's.
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David Hecht
Jul 15, 2013, 6:34:28 PM7/15/13
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Thanx to both of you. I shall consider the possibilities! :-)
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