(ASCEND) Re: TFTP with NAT (WAS Pipeline 85)
owner-asc...@max.bungi.com
>From: Bennie Warren <ben...@lemoorenet.com>
>
>I am using dynamic addressing from my maxes to my pipeline. I am trying
>to TFTP the config out of the maxes first to see how well this works and
>then upload code to them. Is there an easy way to see the real address of
>the pipeline related to the max for its host address? Will this even
>work? Any info on this would be great.
If I understand your question correctly, you're trying to TFTP new software
into Pipelines that are using NAT connections. This doesn't work out of the
box, although it should if you put some static mappings in the Pipeline to
handle TFTP. I haven't bothered, so I don't know that it'll work.
As for what IP the Pipeline got when it connected, you can show users in
the Max and see who's got what.
Peter Lalor Infoasis
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The answer I was hoping for was a way at the pipeline to see its address.
I can go to the maxes but it would be easier to look at the pipeline.
Bennie
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Wait a minute here... Something doesn't make sense..
Going back to the original question:
>I am using dynamic addressing from my maxes to my pipeline. I am trying
>to TFTP the config out of the maxes first to see how well this works and
>then upload code to them. Is there an easy way to see the real address of
>the pipeline related to the max for its host address? Will this even
>work? Any info on this would be great.
I no longer have the original post so I only had the piece of the message
above. I don't know where NAT entered into this -- perhaps in a paragrah
that was removed..
Is the Pipeline running NAT or the MAX? Where is the tftp server -- on
the max side or the PL side? A typical config would be to have a PL
running NAT calling into a max and to have the tftp server on the max
side. If this is the case, you can use tsave accross NAT and you can also
do tloadcode across the NAT.
You can also use 'show ip route' on the PL to find out IP info...
Maybe I missed something..
Steve
owner-asc...@max.bungi.com
>Is the Pipeline running NAT or the MAX? Where is the tftp server -- on
>the max side or the PL side? A typical config would be to have a PL
>running NAT calling into a max and to have the tftp server on the max
>side. If this is the case, you can use tsave accross NAT and you can also
>do tloadcode across the NAT.
Really? Every time I've tried TFTPing on a Pipe using NAT to a Max (with
the TFTP server on the Max side as you say), it's never worked at all. It
just times out. It works fine on subnet-routed connections, so I always
assumed it was yet another reason to dislike NAT. I also assumed it could
be fixed with a static mapping, but I've never gone that far. The less I
think about NAT, the happier/less irritated I am.
Peter Lalor Infoasis
pla...@infoasis.com http://www.infoasis.com/
415-459-7991 x102 415-459-7992 fax
owner-asc...@max.bungi.com
Hi Bennie,
You can go into debug mode on the pipeline and use the "nattoggle" command (no
quotation marks) to see the IP assigned to the pipeline when it connects to the
MAX. You have to enter the command a second time to turn it off. You will need
to make sure you are not already connected and watch the debug output when the
link comes up.
You can get a list of available commands and syntax by typing "help ascend" at
the debug prompt. just typing "help" at the debug prompt will also give you some
command references.
I have not tried to TFTP using the IP assigned by a MAX.
Hope this helps.
Scott Starbuck Aobe Network Group
sc...@aobe.com 5340 Millertown Pike
http://www.aobe.com Suite 131
Phone: 423-689-7290 Knoxville, TN 37924
Fax: 423-688-0068
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Bennie Warren wrote:
> The answer I was hoping for was a way at the pipeline to see its address.
> I can go to the maxes but it would be easier to look at the pipeline.
>
> Bennie
>
> >>From: Bennie Warren <ben...@lemoorenet.com>
> >>
> >>I am using dynamic addressing from my maxes to my pipeline. I am trying
> >>to TFTP the config out of the maxes first to see how well this works and
> >>then upload code to them. Is there an easy way to see the real address of
> >>the pipeline related to the max for its host address? Will this even
> >>work? Any info on this would be great.
> >
> >If I understand your question correctly, you're trying to TFTP new software
> >into Pipelines that are using NAT connections. This doesn't work out of the
> >box, although it should if you put some static mappings in the Pipeline to
> >handle TFTP. I haven't bothered, so I don't know that it'll work.
> >
> >As for what IP the Pipeline got when it connected, you can show users in
> >the Max and see who's got what.
> >
> >Peter Lalor Infoasis
> >pla...@infoasis.com http://www.infoasis.com/
> >415-459-7991 x102 415-459-7992 fax
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>
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> Bennie Warren /\
> LemooreNet / /
> 320 West D Street / /
> Lemoore, CA 93245 / / /\ /\
> Phone: 209.924.5909 / /_ _ / \ / /
> Fax 209.924.9578 \ _ _ / /\ \/ /
> ben...@lemoorenet.com / / \ /
> http://www.lemoorenet.com /_/ \/
> **************************************
>
owner-asc...@max.bungi.com
As you can see below the IP address assigned by the max does not show up.
Also the Pipeline is running Nat and the tftp server is behind the
pipeline.
Thanks for the info. I found that setting the set def server on the
pipeline to the machine I wanted to be the tftp server it worked
flawlessly. As the max assigns the address all the time I started using
MaxStat to find the address. I would think just like most networking I
should be able to see the address somewhere that the max is assigning it.
But I guess not. Anyway it works fine now.
Bennie
ascend% show ip route
Destination Gateway IF Flg Pref Met Use Age
0.0.0.0/0 100.100.100.100 wan6 Sn 100 1 4141 45910
100.100.100.0/24 100.100.100.100 wan6 rTn 100 1 0 45910
100.100.100.0/24 100.100.100.100 wan6 *SG 120 7 0 177543
100.100.100.100/32 100.100.100.100 wan6 rTn 100 1 0 45910
100.100.100.100/32 100.100.100.100 wan6 *S 120 7 2 177543
127.0.0.0/8 - bh0 CP 0 0 0 177543
127.0.0.1/32 - local CP 0 0 0 177543
127.0.0.2/32 - rj0 CP 0 0 0 177543
192.168.100.0/24 - ie0 C 0 0 57520 177543
192.168.100.100/32 - local CP 0 0 68 177543
224.0.0.0/4 - mcast CP 0 0 0 177543
224.0.0.1/32 - local CP 0 0 0 177543
224.0.0.2/32 - local CP 0 0 0 177543
224.0.0.5/32 - bh0 CP 0 0 0 177543
224.0.0.6/32 - bh0 CP 0 0 0 177543
224.0.0.9/32 - local CP 0 0 0 177543
255.255.255.255/32 - ie0 CP 0 0 4 177543
>
>Wait a minute here... Something doesn't make sense..
>
>Going back to the original question:
>>I am using dynamic addressing from my maxes to my pipeline. I am trying
>>to TFTP the config out of the maxes first to see how well this works and
>>then upload code to them. Is there an easy way to see the real address of
>>the pipeline related to the max for its host address? Will this even
>>work? Any info on this would be great.
>
>I no longer have the original post so I only had the piece of the message
>above. I don't know where NAT entered into this -- perhaps in a paragrah
>that was removed..
>
>Is the Pipeline running NAT or the MAX? Where is the tftp server -- on
>the max side or the PL side? A typical config would be to have a PL
>running NAT calling into a max and to have the tftp server on the max
>side. If this is the case, you can use tsave accross NAT and you can also
>do tloadcode across the NAT.
>
>You can also use 'show ip route' on the PL to find out IP info...
>
>Maybe I missed something..
>
>Steve
>
>
owner-asc...@max.bungi.com
Bennie
ascend% show ip route
>>Is the Pipeline running NAT or the MAX? Where is the tftp server -- on
>>the max side or the PL side? A typical config would be to have a PL
>>running NAT calling into a max and to have the tftp server on the max
>>side. If this is the case, you can use tsave accross NAT and you can also
>>do tloadcode across the NAT.
>
>Really? Every time I've tried TFTPing on a Pipe using NAT to a Max (with
>the TFTP server on the Max side as you say), it's never worked at all. It
>just times out. It works fine on subnet-routed connections, so I always
>assumed it was yet another reason to dislike NAT. I also assumed it could
>be fixed with a static mapping, but I've never gone that far. The less I
>think about NAT, the happier/less irritated I am.
>
>Peter Lalor Infoasis
>pla...@infoasis.com http://www.infoasis.com/
>415-459-7991 x102 415-459-7992 fax
owner-asc...@max.bungi.com
Thanks for the info. I found that setting the set def server to the
assigns the address all the time I started using MaxStat to find the
address. I would think just like most networking I should be able to see
the address somewhere that the max is assigning it. But I guess not.
Anyway it works fine now.
Bennie
>Hi Bennie,
>> >>I am using dynamic addressing from my maxes to my pipeline. I am trying
>> >>to TFTP the config out of the maxes first to see how well this works and
>> >>then upload code to them. Is there an easy way to see the real address of
>> >>the pipeline related to the max for its host address? Will this even
>> >>work? Any info on this would be great.
>> >
>> >If I understand your question correctly, you're trying to TFTP new software
>> >into Pipelines that are using NAT connections. This doesn't work out of the
>> >box, although it should if you put some static mappings in the Pipeline to
>> >handle TFTP. I haven't bothered, so I don't know that it'll work.
>> >
>> >As for what IP the Pipeline got when it connected, you can show users in
>> >the Max and see who's got what.
>> >
owner-asc...@max.bungi.com
>Thanks for the info. I found that setting the set def server to the
>machine I wanted to be the tftp server it worked flawlessly.
Cool....an alternative would be to static map the relevant ports...
>As the max
>assigns the address all the time I started using MaxStat to find the
>address. I would think just like most networking I should be able to see
>the address somewhere that the max is assigning it. But I guess not.
It should show up in the natt debug, and in the routing table on the P85
when it's connected.
>Anyway it works fine now.
Well that's something :)
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