UHD Safe area

[Roy Janke]

Does anyone have a full resolution, UHD (keyable) file showing the safe areas for UHD?  Preferably to the DCI (Discovery Communications) technical standard?  I just got a call from upstairs and we are going to be receiving programming shot full 4K and they’re concerned that the small bit of reformatting (cropping) to UHD may place some titles out of safe.

 

Thanks all!

Roy.

 

 

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[Roy Janke]

Thanks, that’ll work for my work, but I think they are looking for a keyable version because they’ve received that from Discovery in the past for HD and I guess want the same thing in 3840x2160….

[glenn sakatch]

I can hardly wait till i do a 4K project and some producer says the titles have to be 4:3 safe :)

[david friedman]

i haven’t seen a SMPTE standard for that yet but i have seen one for the EU that i think should help you out.

it’s located here:

https://tech.ebu.ch/docs/r/r095.pdf

a little photoshop work and you could make your own keyable.

HTH

david friedman

On Jan 15, 2016, at 10:34 AM, Roy Janke <Roy....@bellmedia.ca> wrote:

Does anyone have a full resolution, UHD (keyable) file showing the safe areas for UHD?  Preferably to the DCI (Discovery Communications) technical standard?  I just got a call from upstairs and we are going to be receiving programming shot full 4K and they’re concerned that the small bit of reformatting (cropping) to UHD may place some titles out of safe.

 

Thanks all!

Roy.

 

 

Roy Janke | Senior Editor | DS Artist

System:  HP Z820 (Dual 8-Core) | 48GB RAM | Nvidia Quadro K5000                DS 11.1.1 AJA | Media Composer [Symphony Option] 8.4.4 Nitris DX                Windows 7 Corporate 64-Bit

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[Dermot Shane]

i have..  airlines still requre a 4x3 sd version

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[Roy Janke]

Photoshop…that’s exactly what I was thinking when I saw the document you linked to!

 

Thanks all, much appreciated!

 

Roy.

 

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Sent: Friday, January 15, 2016 12:28 PM
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Subject: Re: UHD Safe area

 

i haven’t seen a SMPTE standard for that yet but i have seen one for the EU that i think should help you out.

[Roy Janke]

I made it past 4:3 a few years ago, but haven’t made it to 16:9 safe titles yet…still stuck at 14:9 for HD!

 

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I can hardly wait till i do a 4K project and some producer says the titles have to be 4:3 safe :)

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[david friedman]

from what I’ve been able to determine, the SMPTE standard hasn’t changed since 2009.

that specifies 90% for title safe and 93% for action safe in a 16x9 frame.

so whether it’s HD, 2K, 4K, or 8K, if it’s 16x9, those are the percentages.

david friedman

[Roy Janke]

That’s what I had figured too. I just hope that I’ll be able to move up to those numbers in the not-too-distant future!

[Ken Sirulnick]

That's AWESOME!  The, now defunct, Al Jazeera America not only had a 4x3 title safety requirement, but their custom 4x3 grid was slightly off center for some reason.

[glenn sakatch]

So are looking at EBU and Smtpe with different standards again?

Everything i see on UHD, and the pilot i just did, we did at 4096 x 2160

But Roy is looking for 3840 x 2160, which seems to be the European Standard.

I thought we got rid of that with 1920 x 1080

On Friday, January 15, 2016 at 8:34:19 AM UTC-7, Roy Janke wrote:

[Roy Janke]

UHD is the broadcast version of the true DCI 4K and is defined at 3840X2160 as its aspect ratio is 1.78:1 (16:9). I’m sure a lot of production companies are working at the full 4096x2160 and then deliver, or the broadcaster “downconverts”, as 3840x2160.  Frankly, other than the argument that we needed yet another format to accommodate 16:9 sets, I really wish we would’ve just left everything at “full” 4K and let those shows air with a slight letterbox.

 

Anyway, so yes, no matter what it’s called, I was looking to see if anyone had safe action/title guides for 3840x2160. J 

 

Roy.

 

 

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Subject: Re: UHD Safe area

 

So are looking at EBU and Smtpe with different standards again?

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