Orbs...check this out
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soulsaver
Mar 9, 2008, 4:55:49 PM3/9/08
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soulsaver
Mar 9, 2008, 4:56:53 PM3/9/08
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Sorry, I forgot to mention to watch the video on this site. I was not
sure how the link came through.
Elke
On Mar 9, 1:55 pm, soulsaver <elkehutto...@yahoo.ca> wrote:
> http://paranormal.about.com/gi/dynamic/offsite.htm?zi=1/XJ&sdn=parano...
sure how the link came through.
Elke
On Mar 9, 1:55 pm, soulsaver <elkehutto...@yahoo.ca> wrote:
> http://paranormal.about.com/gi/dynamic/offsite.htm?zi=1/XJ&sdn=parano...
DFBear
Mar 10, 2008, 4:10:06 PM3/10/08
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Hi Elke
Thanks. That link is a page "inside" About.com. To get it without
advertising, go to
http://roswellrods.com/pre.html
Videos are on the blog at:
http://affiliate.kickapps.com/kickapps/_UFO-the-greatest-story-ever-denied/video/166059/16995.html
A TV thing on Rods, if you can listen through the drama they add.
http://affiliate.kickapps.com/kickapps/_Rods-TV-Special-2002-part-1-of-3/video/161296/16995.html
You really have to sift through all the conclusion jumping, like that
they are aliens, more advanced technologically, and so forth. Just
know that there is something very different out there we have not yet
come to know. May have been here longer than we have. Spooky maybe but
thats just an emotional response to the unknown. No indications of
sinister.
When I was young, there were 2 forms of "UFO's" discussed - orbs or
discs and rods. Recent stuff I've seen indicate both may be other
forms of intelligence that function at many sizes. I've seen small
orbs in photos like these and massive ones in NASA photos in space.
Likewise, these rods with apparent spiral "fins" are shown at scales
the size of an arm and at hundreds of feet in size. Both function
within the atmosphere and apparently outside of it. Both behave much
more "organically" than was first observed.
It all suggests the final frontier is not outer space but other values
or resolutions of where we already are.
David
Thanks. That link is a page "inside" About.com. To get it without
advertising, go to
http://roswellrods.com/pre.html
Videos are on the blog at:
http://affiliate.kickapps.com/kickapps/_UFO-the-greatest-story-ever-denied/video/166059/16995.html
A TV thing on Rods, if you can listen through the drama they add.
http://affiliate.kickapps.com/kickapps/_Rods-TV-Special-2002-part-1-of-3/video/161296/16995.html
You really have to sift through all the conclusion jumping, like that
they are aliens, more advanced technologically, and so forth. Just
know that there is something very different out there we have not yet
come to know. May have been here longer than we have. Spooky maybe but
thats just an emotional response to the unknown. No indications of
sinister.
When I was young, there were 2 forms of "UFO's" discussed - orbs or
discs and rods. Recent stuff I've seen indicate both may be other
forms of intelligence that function at many sizes. I've seen small
orbs in photos like these and massive ones in NASA photos in space.
Likewise, these rods with apparent spiral "fins" are shown at scales
the size of an arm and at hundreds of feet in size. Both function
within the atmosphere and apparently outside of it. Both behave much
more "organically" than was first observed.
It all suggests the final frontier is not outer space but other values
or resolutions of where we already are.
David
Elke Hutton
Mar 12, 2008, 2:13:03 AM3/12/08
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Thanks David for putting the links straight. It helps a lot to have a direct page. I just got so excited when I read the info (which certainly is not new!!!) that I didn't pay too much attention to its origin.
With that being said I do believe that there is definitely stuff out there and just because we have not honed our senses to pick up their energies does not mean that they are not out there.
All I can say for myself is that I feel the orbs are the "good guys"! I can feel them and see them around me and when that happens I feel good, happy and at ease. Whatever these energy forms are is yet up to us to discover, but I feel really excited about the possibility of intelligent life out there. They could simply be lifeforms from space...who knows. Maybe they are the mitochondria from outer space or something. I certainly don't buy the "alien" label or UFO stuff. Quantum physics is getting more and more elaborate about what's in space and
I think the more we look the more we will find. Perhaps sensitives along with scientists will be able to discover what they are all about, but prophecies have told us that we will be able to see them when we are ready and I suppose not many people are, or else this stuff would have made the front-page news back in 1993.
Adam has spoken about orbs quite a bit and also feels that they have healing abilities. I suppose a lot of it depends on how you interpret the energies personally...if you look at them with fear they could possibly represent "alien forces"! I choose not to think like that!
This may be somewhat simplistic thinking, but sometimes the simplest thing is often the best explanation. If you consider fractals and how everything in nature replicates and duplicates maybe space is nothing but another body with a ton of energy forms (Material and non-material to us at least!) in it that makes it work?
Elke
> On Mar 9, 1:55 pm, soulsaver wrote:
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> >http://paranormal.about.com/gi/dynamic/offsite.htm?zi=1/XJ&sdn=parano...
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DFBear
Mar 12, 2008, 1:48:49 PM3/12/08
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Hi Elke
As Adam has observed, in our culture we focus on the physical, the
surface values of our experience. Less physical things like
electricity and magnetism are somewhat mysterious. Many people are
only vaguely aware that they have thoughts, and feelings are often
these apparently random events that wash over us. We have no context
for subtler values of anything. Physics however tells us there is a
whole host of subtler values, many with different laws of nature
operating.
If we do a systematic study on the subjective side of the equation we
quickly find that consciousness, that inner sense of lively awareness,
is not a side effect of brain functioning but rather is causal. In
other words, we are that awareness and brain function arises from the
activity within that consciousness. Indeed, we soon find that all of
our experience arises in and takes place in our awareness. Inside of
us. Within that experience, we have subtle ideas and inspirations, we
have thoughts, we have feelings and emotions, and we have sensory
experiences of the physical world.
Its not hard to see how different values of those experiences are
associated with different values of expression of the world. Just as
there are various values or resolutions of manifestation, so too is
there corresponding values in our inner world.
We also know that some things we experience are due to some underlying
values. For example, we may have some sense of restlessness or anger
which we soon find is a symptom on an underlying fear. The sense or
feeling doesn't make much sense until we find the root cause. In the
same way, some effect in the physical world may have a more subtle
origin that will help it make sense. It would not surprise me in the
slightest if orbs are an effect of some deeper underlying activity
taking place. Most of our inner world is subtler - why do we expect
the outer world to be any different?
If you understand that our inner experiences arise in our awareness
and the outer world arises as a result of more subtle energy, we can
quickly see that our world is a series of effects with an underlying
cause. It does not begin in the physical world but rather from a less
resolved value. It should come as no surprise then that some things
are less expressed and may not be physical. Doesn't make them any less
real. In fact, in some ways they are more real even if they are
outside of our usual sensory perception.
As you suggest, theres a lot more going on than our physical senses
are capable of perceiving. The eyes see a very narrow part of the
electromagnetic spectrum. What of things that are not even expressed
enough to create electromagnetic effects? Adam talks about some of the
energy he sees in treating people. Given the wide agreement of
experience of aura values, its obvious theres something there, even if
we don't all understand it yet.
Curiously, many people find that sutler values are perceivable if they
simply allow for the possibility and exercise the skill. We have not
perceived the values simply because we've filtered out that
information in the past. Change your mind, change your world.
I would not say that space is another body - that puts the cart before
the horse. But I would say that space sits within consciousness and
that from the one arises the many. Individual spaces within individual
expressions of the one consciousness. How that consciousness expresses
is as varied as there are possibilities.
Adam is a forerunner, helping to guide people who have been waking to
their own abilities. All these people who have self-healed. Thats big
news.
But I would also not expect this to make front page headlines for a
bit. Presently, the newspapers are focused on the lowest common
denominator, the ego in fear. This mistake of the mind needs to make
things wrong to make itself right and seeks confirmation of its
position. It looks for things to be afraid of. And that sells papers.
The waking thats been going on starts inside, in opening and allowing.
Theres a revolution going on, but its an inner revolution. A
revolution of unprecedented awakening. Occasionally, a symptom arises,
like the popularity of the Secret, but much of it is happening pretty
quietly. Its not until the silent being is established within that it
really starts moving out into the world. Thats when we'll really start
to see things change. When enough people are expressing the pure
silence in form, that is the Age of Gods, the age of enlightenment,
the decent of heaven on earth.
People have been talking about it for a long time. It will take some
more time yet. But theres an unmistakable momentum now, deeper than we
can imagine.
David
As Adam has observed, in our culture we focus on the physical, the
surface values of our experience. Less physical things like
electricity and magnetism are somewhat mysterious. Many people are
only vaguely aware that they have thoughts, and feelings are often
these apparently random events that wash over us. We have no context
for subtler values of anything. Physics however tells us there is a
whole host of subtler values, many with different laws of nature
operating.
If we do a systematic study on the subjective side of the equation we
quickly find that consciousness, that inner sense of lively awareness,
is not a side effect of brain functioning but rather is causal. In
other words, we are that awareness and brain function arises from the
activity within that consciousness. Indeed, we soon find that all of
our experience arises in and takes place in our awareness. Inside of
us. Within that experience, we have subtle ideas and inspirations, we
have thoughts, we have feelings and emotions, and we have sensory
experiences of the physical world.
Its not hard to see how different values of those experiences are
associated with different values of expression of the world. Just as
there are various values or resolutions of manifestation, so too is
there corresponding values in our inner world.
We also know that some things we experience are due to some underlying
values. For example, we may have some sense of restlessness or anger
which we soon find is a symptom on an underlying fear. The sense or
feeling doesn't make much sense until we find the root cause. In the
same way, some effect in the physical world may have a more subtle
origin that will help it make sense. It would not surprise me in the
slightest if orbs are an effect of some deeper underlying activity
taking place. Most of our inner world is subtler - why do we expect
the outer world to be any different?
If you understand that our inner experiences arise in our awareness
and the outer world arises as a result of more subtle energy, we can
quickly see that our world is a series of effects with an underlying
cause. It does not begin in the physical world but rather from a less
resolved value. It should come as no surprise then that some things
are less expressed and may not be physical. Doesn't make them any less
real. In fact, in some ways they are more real even if they are
outside of our usual sensory perception.
As you suggest, theres a lot more going on than our physical senses
are capable of perceiving. The eyes see a very narrow part of the
electromagnetic spectrum. What of things that are not even expressed
enough to create electromagnetic effects? Adam talks about some of the
energy he sees in treating people. Given the wide agreement of
experience of aura values, its obvious theres something there, even if
we don't all understand it yet.
Curiously, many people find that sutler values are perceivable if they
simply allow for the possibility and exercise the skill. We have not
perceived the values simply because we've filtered out that
information in the past. Change your mind, change your world.
I would not say that space is another body - that puts the cart before
the horse. But I would say that space sits within consciousness and
that from the one arises the many. Individual spaces within individual
expressions of the one consciousness. How that consciousness expresses
is as varied as there are possibilities.
Adam is a forerunner, helping to guide people who have been waking to
their own abilities. All these people who have self-healed. Thats big
news.
But I would also not expect this to make front page headlines for a
bit. Presently, the newspapers are focused on the lowest common
denominator, the ego in fear. This mistake of the mind needs to make
things wrong to make itself right and seeks confirmation of its
position. It looks for things to be afraid of. And that sells papers.
The waking thats been going on starts inside, in opening and allowing.
Theres a revolution going on, but its an inner revolution. A
revolution of unprecedented awakening. Occasionally, a symptom arises,
like the popularity of the Secret, but much of it is happening pretty
quietly. Its not until the silent being is established within that it
really starts moving out into the world. Thats when we'll really start
to see things change. When enough people are expressing the pure
silence in form, that is the Age of Gods, the age of enlightenment,
the decent of heaven on earth.
People have been talking about it for a long time. It will take some
more time yet. But theres an unmistakable momentum now, deeper than we
can imagine.
David
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