Dragonfly2 Releases

[Danesprite]

Hello all,

I've released version 0.10.0 of the dragonfly2 Python package. As I mentioned in the previous release post, dragonfly2 is the package distributed using my fork of dragonfly which includes a number of features, improvements and bug fixes that the original project doesn't have at the moment. The changes in this release and in previous releases are listed in the project's changelog file.

I'll reuse this thread for future releases to avoid cluttering this mailing list. I would use the old one, but I couldn't rename it.

I'll repeat the import note about migration from the other post:

To use dragonfly2 instead of dragonfly, you do not need to change import statements to use dragonfly2 instead of dragonfly. There are installation/migration instructions on the project page.

If you find any bugs or other issues, please let me know!

Dane Finlay

[jamison...@gmail.com]

Fantastic work! The new accessibility APIs are awesome as I can now access Chrome and Firefox without the dysfunctional Dragon NaturallySpeaking extension.

[Danesprite]

Yes, James Stout did a great job with that! There are also plans to implement the accessibility controller and other things like dragonfly's Window class for Linux/X11 too.

[Danesprite]

Hello all,

Version 0.11.0 of the dragonfly2 Python package is now released. The GitHub project has been moved from Danesprite/dragonfly to dictation-toolbox/dragonfly and is no longer a GitHub fork of the original project for a few reasons. There are quite a few changes in this version, please see the project's changelog file for more details.

[Dane]

Hello all,

Version 0.12.0 of the dragonfly2 Python package is now released. There are quite a few changes in this release. They are listed in the project's changelog file. The main changes are:

• A new optimize parameter for the Repetition element class that should help avoid grammar complexity errors.
  
• A rework of the CMU Pocket Sphinx engine backend with lots of improvements.
  
• WSR/SAPI5 backend can now be configured to save audio and utterance data into files in a folder, thanks to David Zurow.

There are more details on all of the above in the project's documentation. Please let me know if you find any bugs or other issues!

Dane Finlay

[Dane]

Hello all,

Version 0.13.0 of the dragonfly2 Python package is now released. The most notable change is that the Key, Text and Paste actions now work on X11 (Linux) and Mac OS. The project's changelog file lists all of the notable additions, changes and fixes in this release.

Please let me know if you find any bugs or other issues!

Dane Finlay

[alexander15w]

Sorry if this is old news, but I did not know that dragonfly was supporting Mac OS now. How does it do this? Thanks.

[500GMatt]

Hello all,

Is there a way to force capitalization to lower case?

I know Castor has a command where you can prefix a word and force the word to be lowercase, but that slows things down.

I'm trying to prevent Dragon from capitalizing the 1st letter of a word following a mouseclick, The start of a new line or period.

This happens using Gmail, and programming languages which are case-sensitive. There is the No-capitalization command in vocola, which does work but similar to the castor command, it slows things down considerably.

Thanks, Matt

[Dane]

Hello Alexander,

Dragonfly's Mac OS support is new in version 0.13.0, although there are some problems with it. The Key, Text and Paste actions work on Mac OS through the pynput Python library (https://github.com/moses-palmer/pynput).

Aenea's Mac support is currently much better, e.g. contexts and the Mouse action work.

Dane Finlay

[Anatole M]

What is the speech recognition engine behind dragonfly on Mac? For aenea I have had to set up a virtual machine running Windows with dragon naturally speaking and the server on the Mac.

I heard that nuance stopped supporting their Mac dragon dictate product.

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[Dane]

Well the CMU Pocket Sphinx engine should work, although Dictation elements don't work with it and it is not very accurate by default. Dragonfly's Window class also needs to be implemented for Mac OS before AppContexts can work. I am working towards fixing these issues. In the future, there may be other engine backends that work on the Mac.

Dragonfly will not be supporting Dragon Dictate. It is unfortunate that it was discontinued. I have heard good things about Talon though (https://talonvoice.com/).

Dane Finlay

On Saturday, 27 April 2019 14:01:46 UTC+10, alexander15w wrote:

What is the speech recognition engine behind dragonfly on Mac? For aenea I have had to set up a virtual machine running Windows with dragon naturally speaking and the server on the Mac.

I heard that nuance stopped supporting their Mac dragon dictate product.

On Fri, Apr 26, 2019, 8:47 PM Dane <dan...@gmail.com> wrote:

Hello Alexander,

Dragonfly's Mac OS support is new in version 0.13.0, although there are some problems with it. The Key, Text and Paste actions work on Mac OS through the pynput Python library (https://github.com/moses-palmer/pynput).

Aenea's Mac support is currently much better, e.g. contexts and the Mouse action work.

Dane Finlay


On Thursday, 25 April 2019 03:40:53 UTC+10, alexander15w wrote:

Sorry if this is old news, but I did not know that dragonfly was supporting Mac OS now. How does it do this? Thanks.

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[Shervin Emami]

Hi Dane,

Now that Dragonfly is starting to support a lot of key & mouse actions on other OSes, is the intention to eventually replace Aenea, or are these actions purely to support other backends like Sphinx & Kaldi, while Aenea will stay as the recommended setup for using Dragonfly on Linux & Mac for quite a long time?

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[Dane]

Hello Matt,

Dragon has a toggle command for this: "No Caps (on|off)". If Dragon doesn't have fulltext control of the application, then this only seems to work until you switch application. Nuance has a help page on formatting commands: http://www.nuance.com/products/help/dragon/dragon-for-mac/enx/Content/Formatting/Capitalization.htm

You could also add a custom rule to catch all free-form dictation (e.g. a dragonfly spec like "<dictation>"), convert the text to lowercase and then type it with the Text action. You could use that rule only in the contexts where you need it. A rule like that should not be repeatable with other commands.

Hope this helps!

Dane Finlay

[Dane]

Hi Shervin,

This is a good question. I was mainly thinking of using those actions with the other engine backends. I think Aenea could eventually use dragonfly for getting the server's window context, typing keys, etc. I don't see dragonfly ever replacing it though, that feels like scope creep to me really. Aenea already works pretty well once it's set up.

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[Shervin Emami]

Good points, that makes sense.

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[500GMatt]

Hi All,

Has anyone experienced compatibility problems with Dragonfly after installing Anaconda with Python 3.x?

I've noticed some threads mentioning Python 3.x  messing with Python 2.7.

Thanks, Matt

[Austin Nottingham]

Hi, the first time I tried to install Caster, I had all kinds of weird problems if Anaconda was anywhere on my system. I completely removed Anaconda, and everything worked. I don't really know enough to understand why. My best guess is that there's some sort of underlying virtualization built into the way Anaconda works.  I still have a lot to learn though, so that could be way off the mark. From what I've heard others in the community say, it should be possible to have vanilla installs of Python 2.7 and Python 3.x on the same system, so long as the system path variables are set up correctly. Although I've not tried it.
Hope this is helpful.

Austin

[Caspar]

For what it's worth, I have a regular python 2.7 install (only used for Dragonfly and dependencies of my Dragonfly setup) and a separate Anaconda Python 3.x install and they both work fine. I was careful to avoid adding Anaconda to my system's PATH though - had a sneaking suspicion that it might break things - so whenever I do want Python3 things I need to jump through some hoops (either use Anaconda's shell or specify the full path to its Python). In practice it has worked out okay because I mostly use WSL Python anyway.

- Caspar

[Dane]

Hello all,

Version 0.14.0 of the dragonfly2 Python package is now released. The project's changelog file lists all of the notable additions, changes and fixes in this release.

There are quite a few changes in this release. I guess the most notable change is the Remote Procedure Call (RPC) sub-package (dragonfly.rpc) that's been in the works for a while now. There are also a number of bug fixes and other improvements.

To those using WSR, you should update the dfly-loader-wsr.py module loader file you use. The PumpWaitingMessages loop near the bottom of that file has been replaced with a call to a engine.recognize_forever(). Multiplexing timer functions are called via that method as well as context updates when the window changes.

Please let me know if you find any bugs or other issues!

Dane Finlay

On Friday, 28 December 2018 18:54:52 UTC+11, Dane wrote:

[Dane]

Hello all,

Version 0.16.0 of the dragonfly2 Python package has now been released.

Looks like I forgot to do one of these posts on version 0.15.0 last month. The major addition for that version was a new Kaldi engine backend added by David Zurow. It works on Windows and Linux. The documentation for it is located here. That page also includes the setup instructions.

The major changes for version 0.16.0 are the following:

• Updated Kaldi engine backend with some optimisations, improvements and bug fixes.

• Some neat enhancements to Dictation and DictationContainer objects added by mrob95. This makes it significantly easier to manipulate dictation results for formatted dictation output (e.g. camel case). The documentation on that is here.
  

• A Window class that works on X11 (Linux) based on some of Aenea's xdotool & xprop code. This allows dragonfly's AppContext, FocusWindow, StartApp, BringApp and WaitWindow classes to work properly on Linux with the sphinx or kaldi engines. Dragonfly's Mouse and Monitor classes are the only major classes that are not supported on Linux yet.
  

• An improved X11 keyboard implementation that allows typing arbitrary Unicode characters on Linux.
  

There have been quite a few other bug fixes, improvements and other changes in the last two versions of dragonfly2. They are all listed in the project's changelog.

Let me know if you find any bugs or other issues!

Dane Finlay

[Theodore Rahm]

Hello,

I am new to the group and I would like to try to learn how to use Dragonfly. I haven't been able to install Dragonfly or Dragonfly2 successfully. Is there a new version that is easier to install?

Is there a new updated version to Dragonfly with instructions on how to use it? 

Thank you,

Theodore Rahm

[Dane]

Hello Theodore,

Welcome to the group!

Dragonfly2 should be installable by running "pip install dragonfly2". The installation instructions for Dragonfly2 are here. Can I ask what speech recognition engine you are trying to use it with? Dragon NaturallySpeaking? Window Speech Recognition? Kaldi? If you're using Dragon NaturallySpeaking and having trouble getting natlink installed and working correctly, then you may want to look at these instructions first.

The documentation contains lots of information on how to use dragonfly. The Related resources section has a list of useful resources, including demo videos, example command modules, other libraries, etc.

Hope this helps!

Dane Finlay

[Theodore Rahm]

Hello, Dane.

Thank you for answering my email.

I'm using Dragon NaturallySpeaking 15, and I'm having trouble trying to install natlink. 

I will try the installation instructions and if I run into any problems again I will contact Quintijn Hoogenboom on LinkedIn.

Thank you again.

Theodore Rahm

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[Dane]

No worries. Hopefully you'll have it all set up soon.

You can also find Quintijn in the dictation-toolbox Gitter channels, along with others who should be able to help you with this sort of thing.

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[Dane]

Hello all,

Version 0.17.0 of the dragonfly2 Python package is now released. There are quite a few bug fixes and improvements in this one. All of the changes are listed in the project's changelog. Thank you to everyone who contributed!

One exciting addition in this release is that, thanks to the work of James Stout, Dragonfly's accessibility API is now supported on Linux (alpha support). This allows enhanced text manipulation in applications that support AT-SPI. See the accessibility API documentation and James' blog post for more information on that.

Dragonfly's AppContext class has also been updated to be more compatible with Aenea's ProxyAppContext. This makes it easier to write grammars for applications on Linux/X11.

Please get in touch if you find any bugs or other issues.

Dane Finlay

[Theodore Rahm]

Hello, Dane. 

I just started learning python 3, and I could sure use some help. I imagine some of these questions are basic to someone like yourself, but it would be a big help to me if you could just help me figure out how to solve a few problems. I imagine if I had an example of code to work with it would start making sense to me. 

Respectfully,

Theodore Rahm

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[Dane]

Hello Ted,

Sure, I can probably answer some of your questions. I'd like to ask you some follow-up questions first though. Regarding your emails from July, were you able to get Dragon and Natlink working together? Or did you end up using one of the other Dragonfly engines? The reason I ask is that Natlink doesn't currently work with Python 3.

Also, are you coming from Python 2.7 and just want information on the differences between versions? Feel free to email me directly if your questions aren't really Dragonfly related.

All the best,

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[Theodore Rahm]

Hello,

I wasn't able to get Natlink to work. I am using Python 3, for the online class I'm taking. The GeekSquad tried to install Natlink with Python 3 already installed on my computer, but I felt that with Python 3 already installed on my computer it wouldn't allow Natlink to install properly. I asked the Geek Squad agent if it would cause a problem with the install of Natlink, but he told me it didn't matter, and of course, Natlink didn't work. The GeekSquad downloaded everything and tried to set it up for me, but they were unsuccessful and were not able to get it to work. I haven't tried any other method of installing Dragonfly because I have online classes that are taking up most of my free time. 

I have two problem examples that I need some help with. I don't have any examples to work with, but if you could give me an example it would help me make sense of this code problem. 

 If you could help me with the following problems, it would greatly appreciate.

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1. Assigning a sum.

Write a statement that assigns total_coins with the sum of nickel_count and dime_count. Sample output for 100 nickels and 200 dimes is: 300

1. total_coins = 0
2.
3. nickel_count = int(input())
4. dime_count = int(input())
5.
6. ''' Your solution goes here '''
7.
8. print(total_coins)

I think the number of nickels and dimes are already inputted I just need to write the solution on the third line. I have tried the following solution to this question, but it doesn't work.

6. sum = (nickel_count + dime_count)

7. sum = (total_coins

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(1) Prompt the user to input an integer between 0 and 155, a float, a character, and a string, storing each into separate variables. Then, output those four values on a single line separated by a space. (Submit for 2 points).

Note: This zyLab outputs a newline after each user-input prompt. For convenience in the examples below, the user's input value is shown on the next line, but such values don't actually appear as output when the program runs.  

Enter integer (0 - 155): 99 Enter float: 3.77 Enter character: z Enter string: Howdy 99 3.77 z Howdy  

1. userInt = int(input('Enter integer (0 - 155):\n'))

2. 

3. Finish reading other items into variables, then output the four values on a single line separated by a space

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If you have an idea how to work these prpblems please show me an example of how to work through the problem to get the answer.

Thank you,

Theodore Rahm     

 

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[Dane]

Hello Ted,

Sorry to hear you couldn't get Natlink set up. If you really need to use Dragonfly, then setting up the Windows Speech Recognition engine backend might be easier. See this section of the documentation. It should work with Python 2.7 and Python 3 (either 32-bit or 64-bit).

Regarding the two problems you sent through, this forum isn't really the right place to discuss them. There are plenty of Python tutorials out there. This one is specific to Python I/O (input and output) and has some example code to work with: https://pynative.com/python-input-function-get-user-input/

There is also a long list of resources for learning Python here: https://wiki.python.org/moin/BeginnersGuide/NonProgrammers
I'm sure you'll find something on that page useful.

Hope this helps!

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[Dane]

Hello all,

Version 0.18.0 of the dragonfly2 Python package is now released. Many thanks to everyone who contributed!

All notable changes in this release are listed in the project's changelog. Here are some highlights:

• Many improvements to and new features for the Kaldi engine backend.

• Mouse action support on Linux/X11 and Mac OS. All Dragonfly actions now work on Linux/X11 except PlaySound. Mac OS is only missing support for the Window and AppContext classes.
  

• Recognition state change callback functions (e.g. speech start). These are an easier way of using Dragonfly's recognition observer classes.

There are also quite a few bug fixes. Please get in touch if you find any bugs or other issues.

[Dane]

Hello all,

Version 0.20.0 of the dragonfly2 Python package has been released. Many thanks to everyone who contributed!

This release includes various improvements to the Kaldi engine backend, a Window class for macOS that allows AppContext to work properly as well as quite a few other bug fixes, additions and enhancements. All notable changes are listed in the project's changelog.

[Dane]

Hello all,

Version 0.21.0 of the dragonfly2 Python package has been released. Thanks very much to everyone who contributed!

This release includes various bug fixes, additions and improvements to existing features. All of these are listed in the project's changelog.

[Dane]

Hello all,

Version 0.22.0 of the dragonfly2 Python package has been released. Thanks very much to everyone who contributed!

This release includes various bug fixes and improvements to existing features. All of these are listed in the project's changelog. For any Mac users out there, Dragonfly's Kaldi engine backend now works on Mac OS. There are also quite a few improvements to the documentation, including a new Frequently Asked Questions (FAQ) page.

[Dane Finlay]

Hello all,

Version 0.23.0 of the dragonfly2 Python package has been released. Thanks very much to everyone who contributed!

This release includes various bug fixes and improvements to existing features. All of these are listed in the project's changelog.

[Dane Finlay]

Hello all,

Version 0.24.0 of the dragonfly2 Python package has been released. Thanks very much to everyone who contributed!

This release includes a few new additions:

• Optional recognition and grammar callback function arguments that expose internal SR engine recognition results objects for DNS/Natlink and SAPI 5/WSR.

• The ability to specify quoted words in Dragonfly compound specs. This can help to fix DNS recognition issues with certain phrases.

Also included are various bug fixes and improvements. All of these things are listed in the project's changelog.

[Dane Finlay]

Hello all,

Version 0.25.0 of the dragonfly2 Python package has been released. The additions, changes and fixes are listed in the project's changelog.

Thanks very much to everyone who contributed!

[Dane Finlay]

Hello all,

Version 0.26.0 of the dragonfly2 Python package has been released. This release contains mostly bug fixes. The additions, changes and fixes are listed in the project's changelog.

[Dane Finlay]

Hello all,

Version 0.27.0 of the dragonfly2 Python package has been released. This release contains improvements to the Kaldi engine back-end, many improvements to the documentation (especially for engines) and a few bug fixes. One other notable change is that the wmctrl program is now required to maximize windows on X11/Linux.The additions, changes and fixes are listed in the project's changelog.

[Dane Finlay]

Hello all,

Version 0.28.0 of the dragonfly2 Python package has been released. The additions, changes and fixes are listed in the project's changelog.

[Dane Finlay]

Hello all,

Version 0.29.0 of the dragonfly2 Python package has been released. The additions, changes and fixes are listed in the project's changelog.

[Dane Finlay]

Hello all,

Version 0.30.0 of the dragonfly2 Python package has been released, as of March 21. The additions, changes and fixes are listed in the project's changelog. You can upgrade to this new version by running the following command:

pip install --upgrade dragonfly2

Thanks very much to everyone who contributed! My apologies for the long gap between this release and the last one. Please get in touch if you find any bugs or other issues.

[Dane Finlay]

Hello all,

Version 0.31.0 of the dragonfly2 Python package has been released, as of May 4. The changes and fixes are listed in the project's changelog. You can upgrade to this new version by running the following command:

pip install --upgrade dragonfly2

Thanks very much to everyone who contributed! Please get in touch if you find any bugs or other issues.

[Dane Finlay]

Hello all,

Version 0.32.0 of the dragonfly2 Python package has been released. The changes and fixes are listed in the project's changelog. You can upgrade to this new version by running the following command: