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Pickwick & Plum
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I've signed up and am very excited! I'm also very interested in getting into
your PNCA class. I'd seen this listed last Spring term, but then it was
cancelled. I'm thrilled that it's being offered for Fall!
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Today's Topics:
1. Re: Maple Bacon class - appropriate for beginner? Try Two.
(D Delmar Davis)
2. Re: random inquiry. (Paul Stoffregen)
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From: D Delmar Davis <art...@suspectdevices.com>
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I hope so.
The point of the the Maple bacon is to try to make the arm accessible in a
way that leverages an existing community. Leaflab's has taken a lot of the
pain out of working with the arm while still giving you full access to it
and working with another existing framework, Wiring(/Arduino) to make it
easy to learn. The past year Wiring and Maple have been working together to
create a unified platform with the advantages of both.
I have arrived at this platform through my own frustrations with the gap
between scratch building, and having it all done for you.
In the class I will try to cover c(++) programming as recommended by the
maple team and work on some of the stumbling blocks that I have come upon
applying my experiences in an embedded environment. I come at this as
someone who is not an EE but rather an experienced (though busy and not
particularly brilliant) programmer who has learned most of his lessons the
hard way in an artistic and professional capacity.
I hope that this class serves both those looking for a little more depth in
embedded programming while still being accessible to artists and musicians.
As always with new things there will be stepwise refinement.
Hope to see you there.
Don.
On Aug 20, 2012, at 3:03 PM, Pickwick & Plum wrote:
> Is this class going to be appropriate for an absolute beginner of
> microprocessors? I took the Dorkboard class last month at FreeGeek and
> I don't think I learned much about how to work with these kinds of
> things. I learned how to build a Dorkboard but that is all...
>
> I'm a web developer, so I understand coding to a certain degree -
> would I be lost in this class? I really want to learn how to use
> microprocessors in my artwork - but I have no relative experience.
>
>
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> 1. Re: Cooking with the Maple Bacon, Saturday 25AUG12, 1-5
> FreeGeek, $40 (Aaron Eiche)
> 2. Re: Cooking with the Maple Bacon, Saturday 25AUG12, 1-5
> FreeGeek, $40 (Aaron Burt)
> 3. Re: Cooking with the Maple Bacon, Saturday 25AUG12, 1-5
> FreeGeek, $40 (Jerry Biehler)
> 4. Re: Cooking with the Maple Bacon, Saturday 25AUG12, 1-5
> FreeGeek, $40 (Aaron Eiche)
> 5. Re: Cooking with the Maple Bacon, Saturday 25AUG12, 1-5
> FreeGeek, $40 (Joel)
> 6. Re: Cooking with the Maple Bacon, Saturday 25AUG12, 1-5
> FreeGeek, $40 (D Delmar Davis)
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> Which is, if anyone doesn't know, a pretty amazing deal. I'm excited
> for this and I hope I can make it.
>
> On Mon, Aug 20, 2012 at 12:38 PM, Joel <cinco...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> For those of you like me who don't closely read subject lines: the
>> cost of the workshop (which includes the ~$35 Maple Bacon hardware)
>> is $40.
>>
>> On Mon, Aug 20, 2012 at 11:35 AM, D Delmar Davis
>> <art...@suspectdevices.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Suspect Devices Presents: Cooking with Maple Bacon
>>>
>>> This saturday we will introduce our new hardware the Maple Bacon in
>>> a
>> workshop focusing on programming.
>>>
>>> In this workshop we will introduce the Leaflabs Maple platform using
>>> our
>> own varient of the maple mini, the "Maple Bacon". This will be a
>> software only (hardware is included, no soldering required) class and
>> it will focus on programming.
>>>
>>> An introduction to the Maple IDE and a comparison of it to the
>>> Arduino
>> and Wiring Platforms.
>>> An introduction to using libmaple from the command line and
>>> integrating
>> it into an ide
>>> Hardware Hello World.
>>> Software Hello World (serial).
>>> A more complicated example which will serve the following discussion
>>> C(++) in an embedded environment
>>>
>>> Datatypes
>>> Structures,arrays,and enums
>>> Scope, constants, and macros
>>> C++ and Classes
>>>
>>> Hardware interaction
>>>
>>> Basic IO, Analog to Digital
>>> Serial Ports (usb, usart, spi, twi)
>>> External Interrupts
>>> Timers
>>> PWM
>>>
>>> What to Bring:
>>>
>>> A laptop and a standard usb a-b cable.
>>>
>>> RSVP
>>>
>>> You can rsvp for this workshop at
>> http://www.suspectdevices.com/blahg/workshops/
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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> On Mon, Aug 20, 2012 at 11:35:04AM -0700, D Delmar Davis wrote:
>> Suspect Devices Presents: Cooking with Maple Bacon This saturday we
>> will introduce our new hardware the Maple Bacon in a workshop
>> focusing on
> programming.
>> In this workshop we will introduce the Leaflabs Maple platform using
>> our
> own varient of the maple mini, the "Maple Bacon". This will be a
> software only (hardware is included, no soldering required) class and
> it will focus on programming.
>
> Cool! I love ARM.
>
> That said, what's the big reasons someone would want to move from AVR
> to
> (small) ARM? No *nix, but is there networking? Cool video/sound
features?
> Advanced peripheral connectivity? Something cool we can do with all
> that extra CPU power?
>
> Thanks,
> Aaron
>
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> Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2012 13:20:51 -0700
> From: Jerry Biehler <jerry....@gmail.com>
> To: "A discussion list for dorkbot-pdx \(portland, or\)"
> <dorkbotpd...@dorkbot.org>
> Subject: Re: [dorkbotpdx-blabber] Cooking with the Maple Bacon,
> Saturday 25AUG12, 1-5 FreeGeek, $40
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> You can blink LEDs soooo much faster.
>
> -Jerry
>
> On Aug 20, 2012, at 1:19 PM, Aaron Burt <aa...@bavariati.org> wrote:
>
>> On Mon, Aug 20, 2012 at 11:35:04AM -0700, D Delmar Davis wrote:
>>> Suspect Devices Presents: Cooking with Maple Bacon This saturday we
>>> will introduce our new hardware the Maple Bacon in a workshop
>>> focusing on
> programming.
>>> In this workshop we will introduce the Leaflabs Maple platform using
>>> our
> own varient of the maple mini, the "Maple Bacon". This will be a
> software only (hardware is included, no soldering required) class and
> it will focus on programming.
>>
>> Cool! I love ARM.
>>
>> That said, what's the big reasons someone would want to move from AVR
>> to
>> (small) ARM? No *nix, but is there networking? Cool video/sound
> features?
>> Advanced peripheral connectivity? Something cool we can do with all
>> that extra CPU power?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Aaron
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> Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2012 13:22:26 -0700
> From: Aaron Eiche <aaron...@gmail.com>
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> Subject: Re: [dorkbotpdx-blabber] Cooking with the Maple Bacon,
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> Is the ARM on the Maple Bacon 32bits?
>
> On Mon, Aug 20, 2012 at 1:20 PM, Jerry Biehler
> <jerry....@gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> You can blink LEDs soooo much faster.
>>
>> -Jerry
>>
>> On Aug 20, 2012, at 1:19 PM, Aaron Burt <aa...@bavariati.org> wrote:
>>
>>> On Mon, Aug 20, 2012 at 11:35:04AM -0700, D Delmar Davis wrote:
>>>> Suspect Devices Presents: Cooking with Maple Bacon This saturday we
>>>> will introduce our new hardware the Maple Bacon in a
>> workshop focusing on programming.
>>>> In this workshop we will introduce the Leaflabs Maple platform
>>>> using
>> our own varient of the maple mini, the "Maple Bacon". This will be a
>> software only (hardware is included, no soldering required) class and
>> it will focus on programming.
>>>
>>> Cool! I love ARM.
>>>
>>> That said, what's the big reasons someone would want to move from
>>> AVR to
>>> (small) ARM? No *nix, but is there networking? Cool video/sound
>> features?
>>> Advanced peripheral connectivity? Something cool we can do with all
>>> that extra CPU power?
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Aaron
>>> _______________________________________________
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> Yep:
> http://leaflabs.com/devices/
>
> Dimensions: 2.02 x 0.72 inches
> Microprocessor: 32-bit ARM Cortex M3 at 72MHz (STM32F103CBT6)
> Memory: 120 KB Flash and 20 KB SRAM
> I/O Pins: 34 (of which 12 provide PWM output at 16-bit resolution)
> ADCs: 9 (at 12-bit resolution)
> Peripherals: 4 timers, 2 I2Cs, 2 SPI ports, 3 USARTs
> Other: Sleep, stop, and standby modes; serial wire debug and JTAG
> interfaces
>
> On Mon, Aug 20, 2012 at 1:22 PM, Aaron Eiche <aaron...@gmail.com>
wrote:
>> Is the ARM on the Maple Bacon 32bits?
>>
>> On Mon, Aug 20, 2012 at 1:20 PM, Jerry Biehler
>> <jerry....@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> You can blink LEDs soooo much faster.
>>>
>>> -Jerry
>>>
>>> On Aug 20, 2012, at 1:19 PM, Aaron Burt <aa...@bavariati.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Mon, Aug 20, 2012 at 11:35:04AM -0700, D Delmar Davis wrote:
>>>>> Suspect Devices Presents: Cooking with Maple Bacon This saturday
>>>>> we will introduce our new hardware the Maple Bacon in a workshop
>>>>> focusing on programming.
>>>>> In this workshop we will introduce the Leaflabs Maple platform
>>>>> using our own varient of the maple mini, the "Maple Bacon". This
>>>>> will be a software only (hardware is included, no soldering
>>>>> required) class and it will focus on programming.
>>>>
>>>> Cool! I love ARM.
>>>>
>>>> That said, what's the big reasons someone would want to move from
>>>> AVR to
>>>> (small) ARM? No *nix, but is there networking? Cool video/sound
>>>> features?
>>>> Advanced peripheral connectivity? Something cool we can do with
>>>> all that extra CPU power?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Aaron
>>>> _______________________________________________
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> Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2012 14:08:56 -0700
> From: D Delmar Davis <art...@suspectdevices.com>
> To: D Delmar Davis <d...@suspectdevices.com>
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> Aaron,
>
> My personal reasons for moving to the arm are in the first part of my
> osb talk from this year.
>
> http://suspectdevices.com/TheBaco-matic5000-OSB/assets/player/KeynoteD
> HTMLPl
> ayer.html
> (http://www.suspectdevices.com/blahg/arm/bacon/baco-matic-5000-talk-no
> tes/)
>
> .... I am told that at some time in the future there will be audio.....
>
> My reasons for introducing this to dorkbot is to try to bridge the gap
> between the current group of technically savvy arm users and people
> who would otherwise be stuck with the Arduino. Also note that I am not
> alone in moving to arm (see the Arduino DUE) The arm in the maple is
> much less expensive and more approachable than either the DUE or the
> next generation Maple board.
>
> Don
>
> On Aug 20, 2012, at 1:19 PM, Aaron Burt wrote:
>
>> On Mon, Aug 20, 2012 at 11:35:04AM -0700, D Delmar Davis wrote:
>>> Suspect Devices Presents: Cooking with Maple Bacon This saturday we
>>> will introduce our new hardware the Maple Bacon in a workshop
>>> focusing on
> programming.
>>> In this workshop we will introduce the Leaflabs Maple platform using
>>> our
> own varient of the maple mini, the "Maple Bacon". This will be a
> software only (hardware is included, no soldering required) class and
> it will focus on programming.
>>
>> Cool! I love ARM.
>>
>> That said, what's the big reasons someone would want to move from AVR
>> to
>> (small) ARM? No *nix, but is there networking? Cool video/sound
> features?
>> Advanced peripheral connectivity? Something cool we can do with all
>> that extra CPU power?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Aaron
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Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2012 19:22:17 -0700
From: Paul Stoffregen <pa...@pjrc.com>
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For Nuvoton, I've ended up going to the ARM Ltd documentation. It's amazing
how much of documentation there is, yet how little of it actually describes
how to actually use anything. Everything seems to be just raw documentation
for each little module. No examples, no explanations, just raw facts.
Unlike AVR where there's a pretty simple ISP programming interface, you
pretty much have to build a debug system using ARM's very complex protocols,
take control of the processor core, and then to program the flash you need
to load and execute in RAM your own code (plus the data you want flashed)
which does the work using the chip's in-application flash programming
interface.
Compared to the convenient hardware interfaces and/or bootloaders that are
so common on 8 bit chips, it's a pretty incredible hurdle to building any
workable tools. Of course, many of the ARM chips have nice bootloaders in
ROM, but not Nuvoton!
On 08/20/2012 06:00 PM, D Delmar Davis wrote:
>
>>
>> As I recall, Don, you built some dev boards with Nuvoton parts quite
>> a long time ago, maybe over a year now? What ever happened with those?
>>
>
> Been well over 2 years now.
>
> Not a lot of open source or cross platform support let alone
> community.(on top of the issues you mentioned. ) And as you are
> clearly pointing out, I am not a super genius capable of scratch
> building the universe. I was to stupid to understand the stuff that
> Jared was doing and so I spent several months in a vm and built a few
> projects in the windows based commercial compiler but got frustrated
> and moved on to less difficult tasks.
>
> Good bang for the buck though.
>
> On Aug 20, 2012, at 4:59 PM, Paul Stoffregen wrote:
>> On 08/20/2012 04:32 PM, David Turnbull wrote:
>>> The PSoC 5 has a Cortex M3 and does I2S with DMA. I even have code
>>> and circuits for making a 24-bit USB sound card using a PCM3060. My
>>> project uses the $7 48-pin 8051 version of the PSoC, but the code is
>>> the same for the M3.
>>>
>>> https://github.com/ham21/peaberry
>>>
>>> -david
>>>
>>> On Mon, Aug 20, 2012 at 4:26 PM, D Delmar Davis
>>> <art...@suspectdevices.com <mailto:art...@suspectdevices.com>> wrote:
>>>> Maple native will probably support i2s but its a big and expensive
>>>> processor. The Ret6 had i2s hardware but no native library support
>>>> and the ret6 is not guaranteed to have future libmaple support.
>>>> Most of the stm32 peripherals have dma support. For cheap with
>>>> decent i2s you might look at the nuc12x series of chips or as jared
>>>> boone.
>>>>
>>>> ....
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Aug 20, 2012, at 3:46 PM, Paul Stoffregen wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>> .... I am told that at some time in the future there will be
>>>>>> audio.....
>>>>>>
>>>>> Does it have an I2S port (not I2C, but I2S) with DMA?
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your PNCA class. I'd seen this listed last Spring term, but then it was
cancelled. I'm thrilled that it's being offered for Fall!
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I hope so.
The point of the the Maple bacon is to try to make the arm accessible in a
way that leverages an existing community. Leaflab's has taken a lot of the
pain out of working with the arm while still giving you full access to it
and working with another existing framework, Wiring(/Arduino) to make it
easy to learn. The past year Wiring and Maple have been working together to
create a unified platform with the advantages of both.
I have arrived at this platform through my own frustrations with the gap
between scratch building, and having it all done for you.
In the class I will try to cover c(++) programming as recommended by the
maple team and work on some of the stumbling blocks that I have come upon
applying my experiences in an embedded environment. I come at this as
someone who is not an EE but rather an experienced (though busy and not
particularly brilliant) programmer who has learned most of his lessons the
hard way in an artistic and professional capacity.
I hope that this class serves both those looking for a little more depth in
embedded programming while still being accessible to artists and musicians.
As always with new things there will be stepwise refinement.
Hope to see you there.
Don.
On Aug 20, 2012, at 3:03 PM, Pickwick & Plum wrote:
> Is this class going to be appropriate for an absolute beginner of
> microprocessors? I took the Dorkboard class last month at FreeGeek and
> I don't think I learned much about how to work with these kinds of
> things. I learned how to build a Dorkboard but that is all...
>
> I'm a web developer, so I understand coding to a certain degree -
> would I be lost in this class? I really want to learn how to use
> microprocessors in my artwork - but I have no relative experience.
>
>
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> 1. Re: Cooking with the Maple Bacon, Saturday 25AUG12, 1-5
> FreeGeek, $40 (Aaron Eiche)
> 2. Re: Cooking with the Maple Bacon, Saturday 25AUG12, 1-5
> FreeGeek, $40 (Aaron Burt)
> 3. Re: Cooking with the Maple Bacon, Saturday 25AUG12, 1-5
> FreeGeek, $40 (Jerry Biehler)
> 4. Re: Cooking with the Maple Bacon, Saturday 25AUG12, 1-5
> FreeGeek, $40 (Aaron Eiche)
> 5. Re: Cooking with the Maple Bacon, Saturday 25AUG12, 1-5
> FreeGeek, $40 (Joel)
> 6. Re: Cooking with the Maple Bacon, Saturday 25AUG12, 1-5
> FreeGeek, $40 (D Delmar Davis)
>
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> Message: 1
> Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2012 12:59:46 -0700
> From: Aaron Eiche <aaron...@gmail.com>
> To: "A discussion list for dorkbot-pdx (portland, or)"
> <dorkbotpd...@dorkbot.org>
> Subject: Re: [dorkbotpdx-blabber] Cooking with the Maple Bacon,
> Saturday 25AUG12, 1-5 FreeGeek, $40
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> Which is, if anyone doesn't know, a pretty amazing deal. I'm excited
> for this and I hope I can make it.
>
> On Mon, Aug 20, 2012 at 12:38 PM, Joel <cinco...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> For those of you like me who don't closely read subject lines: the
>> cost of the workshop (which includes the ~$35 Maple Bacon hardware)
>> is $40.
>>
>> On Mon, Aug 20, 2012 at 11:35 AM, D Delmar Davis
>> <art...@suspectdevices.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Suspect Devices Presents: Cooking with Maple Bacon
>>>
>>> This saturday we will introduce our new hardware the Maple Bacon in
>>> a
>> workshop focusing on programming.
>>>
>>> In this workshop we will introduce the Leaflabs Maple platform using
>>> our
>> own varient of the maple mini, the "Maple Bacon". This will be a
>> software only (hardware is included, no soldering required) class and
>> it will focus on programming.
>>>
>>> An introduction to the Maple IDE and a comparison of it to the
>>> Arduino
>> and Wiring Platforms.
>>> An introduction to using libmaple from the command line and
>>> integrating
>> it into an ide
>>> Hardware Hello World.
>>> Software Hello World (serial).
>>> A more complicated example which will serve the following discussion
>>> C(++) in an embedded environment
>>>
>>> Datatypes
>>> Structures,arrays,and enums
>>> Scope, constants, and macros
>>> C++ and Classes
>>>
>>> Hardware interaction
>>>
>>> Basic IO, Analog to Digital
>>> Serial Ports (usb, usart, spi, twi)
>>> External Interrupts
>>> Timers
>>> PWM
>>>
>>> What to Bring:
>>>
>>> A laptop and a standard usb a-b cable.
>>>
>>> RSVP
>>>
>>> You can rsvp for this workshop at
>> http://www.suspectdevices.com/blahg/workshops/
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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> Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2012 13:19:12 -0700
> From: Aaron Burt <aa...@bavariati.org>
> To: dorkbotpd...@dorkbot.org
> Subject: Re: [dorkbotpdx-blabber] Cooking with the Maple Bacon,
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> On Mon, Aug 20, 2012 at 11:35:04AM -0700, D Delmar Davis wrote:
>> Suspect Devices Presents: Cooking with Maple Bacon This saturday we
>> will introduce our new hardware the Maple Bacon in a workshop
>> focusing on
> programming.
>> In this workshop we will introduce the Leaflabs Maple platform using
>> our
> own varient of the maple mini, the "Maple Bacon". This will be a
> software only (hardware is included, no soldering required) class and
> it will focus on programming.
>
> Cool! I love ARM.
>
> That said, what's the big reasons someone would want to move from AVR
> to
> (small) ARM? No *nix, but is there networking? Cool video/sound
features?
> Advanced peripheral connectivity? Something cool we can do with all
> that extra CPU power?
>
> Thanks,
> Aaron
>
>
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> Message: 3
> Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2012 13:20:51 -0700
> From: Jerry Biehler <jerry....@gmail.com>
> To: "A discussion list for dorkbot-pdx \(portland, or\)"
> <dorkbotpd...@dorkbot.org>
> Subject: Re: [dorkbotpdx-blabber] Cooking with the Maple Bacon,
> Saturday 25AUG12, 1-5 FreeGeek, $40
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> You can blink LEDs soooo much faster.
>
> -Jerry
>
> On Aug 20, 2012, at 1:19 PM, Aaron Burt <aa...@bavariati.org> wrote:
>
>> On Mon, Aug 20, 2012 at 11:35:04AM -0700, D Delmar Davis wrote:
>>> Suspect Devices Presents: Cooking with Maple Bacon This saturday we
>>> will introduce our new hardware the Maple Bacon in a workshop
>>> focusing on
> programming.
>>> In this workshop we will introduce the Leaflabs Maple platform using
>>> our
> own varient of the maple mini, the "Maple Bacon". This will be a
> software only (hardware is included, no soldering required) class and
> it will focus on programming.
>>
>> Cool! I love ARM.
>>
>> That said, what's the big reasons someone would want to move from AVR
>> to
>> (small) ARM? No *nix, but is there networking? Cool video/sound
> features?
>> Advanced peripheral connectivity? Something cool we can do with all
>> that extra CPU power?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Aaron
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> Message: 4
> Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2012 13:22:26 -0700
> From: Aaron Eiche <aaron...@gmail.com>
> To: "A discussion list for dorkbot-pdx (portland, or)"
> <dorkbotpd...@dorkbot.org>
> Subject: Re: [dorkbotpdx-blabber] Cooking with the Maple Bacon,
> Saturday 25AUG12, 1-5 FreeGeek, $40
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> Is the ARM on the Maple Bacon 32bits?
>
> On Mon, Aug 20, 2012 at 1:20 PM, Jerry Biehler
> <jerry....@gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> You can blink LEDs soooo much faster.
>>
>> -Jerry
>>
>> On Aug 20, 2012, at 1:19 PM, Aaron Burt <aa...@bavariati.org> wrote:
>>
>>> On Mon, Aug 20, 2012 at 11:35:04AM -0700, D Delmar Davis wrote:
>>>> Suspect Devices Presents: Cooking with Maple Bacon This saturday we
>>>> will introduce our new hardware the Maple Bacon in a
>> workshop focusing on programming.
>>>> In this workshop we will introduce the Leaflabs Maple platform
>>>> using
>> our own varient of the maple mini, the "Maple Bacon". This will be a
>> software only (hardware is included, no soldering required) class and
>> it will focus on programming.
>>>
>>> Cool! I love ARM.
>>>
>>> That said, what's the big reasons someone would want to move from
>>> AVR to
>>> (small) ARM? No *nix, but is there networking? Cool video/sound
>> features?
>>> Advanced peripheral connectivity? Something cool we can do with all
>>> that extra CPU power?
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Aaron
>>> _______________________________________________
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> Yep:
> http://leaflabs.com/devices/
>
> Dimensions: 2.02 x 0.72 inches
> Microprocessor: 32-bit ARM Cortex M3 at 72MHz (STM32F103CBT6)
> Memory: 120 KB Flash and 20 KB SRAM
> I/O Pins: 34 (of which 12 provide PWM output at 16-bit resolution)
> ADCs: 9 (at 12-bit resolution)
> Peripherals: 4 timers, 2 I2Cs, 2 SPI ports, 3 USARTs
> Other: Sleep, stop, and standby modes; serial wire debug and JTAG
> interfaces
>
> On Mon, Aug 20, 2012 at 1:22 PM, Aaron Eiche <aaron...@gmail.com>
wrote:
>> Is the ARM on the Maple Bacon 32bits?
>>
>> On Mon, Aug 20, 2012 at 1:20 PM, Jerry Biehler
>> <jerry....@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> You can blink LEDs soooo much faster.
>>>
>>> -Jerry
>>>
>>> On Aug 20, 2012, at 1:19 PM, Aaron Burt <aa...@bavariati.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Mon, Aug 20, 2012 at 11:35:04AM -0700, D Delmar Davis wrote:
>>>>> Suspect Devices Presents: Cooking with Maple Bacon This saturday
>>>>> we will introduce our new hardware the Maple Bacon in a workshop
>>>>> focusing on programming.
>>>>> In this workshop we will introduce the Leaflabs Maple platform
>>>>> using our own varient of the maple mini, the "Maple Bacon". This
>>>>> will be a software only (hardware is included, no soldering
>>>>> required) class and it will focus on programming.
>>>>
>>>> Cool! I love ARM.
>>>>
>>>> That said, what's the big reasons someone would want to move from
>>>> AVR to
>>>> (small) ARM? No *nix, but is there networking? Cool video/sound
>>>> features?
>>>> Advanced peripheral connectivity? Something cool we can do with
>>>> all that extra CPU power?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Aaron
>>>> _______________________________________________
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> Message: 6
> Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2012 14:08:56 -0700
> From: D Delmar Davis <art...@suspectdevices.com>
> To: D Delmar Davis <d...@suspectdevices.com>
> Cc: "A discussion list for dorkbot-pdx \(portland, or\)"
> <dorkbotpd...@dorkbot.org>
> Subject: Re: [dorkbotpdx-blabber] Cooking with the Maple Bacon,
> Saturday 25AUG12, 1-5 FreeGeek, $40
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>
> Aaron,
>
> My personal reasons for moving to the arm are in the first part of my
> osb talk from this year.
>
> http://suspectdevices.com/TheBaco-matic5000-OSB/assets/player/KeynoteD
> HTMLPl
> ayer.html
> (http://www.suspectdevices.com/blahg/arm/bacon/baco-matic-5000-talk-no
> tes/)
>
> .... I am told that at some time in the future there will be audio.....
>
> My reasons for introducing this to dorkbot is to try to bridge the gap
> between the current group of technically savvy arm users and people
> who would otherwise be stuck with the Arduino. Also note that I am not
> alone in moving to arm (see the Arduino DUE) The arm in the maple is
> much less expensive and more approachable than either the DUE or the
> next generation Maple board.
>
> Don
>
> On Aug 20, 2012, at 1:19 PM, Aaron Burt wrote:
>
>> On Mon, Aug 20, 2012 at 11:35:04AM -0700, D Delmar Davis wrote:
>>> Suspect Devices Presents: Cooking with Maple Bacon This saturday we
>>> will introduce our new hardware the Maple Bacon in a workshop
>>> focusing on
> programming.
>>> In this workshop we will introduce the Leaflabs Maple platform using
>>> our
> own varient of the maple mini, the "Maple Bacon". This will be a
> software only (hardware is included, no soldering required) class and
> it will focus on programming.
>>
>> Cool! I love ARM.
>>
>> That said, what's the big reasons someone would want to move from AVR
>> to
>> (small) ARM? No *nix, but is there networking? Cool video/sound
> features?
>> Advanced peripheral connectivity? Something cool we can do with all
>> that extra CPU power?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Aaron
>> _______________________________________________
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Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2012 19:22:17 -0700
From: Paul Stoffregen <pa...@pjrc.com>
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For Nuvoton, I've ended up going to the ARM Ltd documentation. It's amazing
how much of documentation there is, yet how little of it actually describes
how to actually use anything. Everything seems to be just raw documentation
for each little module. No examples, no explanations, just raw facts.
Unlike AVR where there's a pretty simple ISP programming interface, you
pretty much have to build a debug system using ARM's very complex protocols,
take control of the processor core, and then to program the flash you need
to load and execute in RAM your own code (plus the data you want flashed)
which does the work using the chip's in-application flash programming
interface.
Compared to the convenient hardware interfaces and/or bootloaders that are
so common on 8 bit chips, it's a pretty incredible hurdle to building any
workable tools. Of course, many of the ARM chips have nice bootloaders in
ROM, but not Nuvoton!
On 08/20/2012 06:00 PM, D Delmar Davis wrote:
>
>>
>> As I recall, Don, you built some dev boards with Nuvoton parts quite
>> a long time ago, maybe over a year now? What ever happened with those?
>>
>
> Been well over 2 years now.
>
> Not a lot of open source or cross platform support let alone
> community.(on top of the issues you mentioned. ) And as you are
> clearly pointing out, I am not a super genius capable of scratch
> building the universe. I was to stupid to understand the stuff that
> Jared was doing and so I spent several months in a vm and built a few
> projects in the windows based commercial compiler but got frustrated
> and moved on to less difficult tasks.
>
> Good bang for the buck though.
>
> On Aug 20, 2012, at 4:59 PM, Paul Stoffregen wrote:
>> On 08/20/2012 04:32 PM, David Turnbull wrote:
>>> The PSoC 5 has a Cortex M3 and does I2S with DMA. I even have code
>>> and circuits for making a 24-bit USB sound card using a PCM3060. My
>>> project uses the $7 48-pin 8051 version of the PSoC, but the code is
>>> the same for the M3.
>>>
>>> https://github.com/ham21/peaberry
>>>
>>> -david
>>>
>>> On Mon, Aug 20, 2012 at 4:26 PM, D Delmar Davis
>>> <art...@suspectdevices.com <mailto:art...@suspectdevices.com>> wrote:
>>>> Maple native will probably support i2s but its a big and expensive
>>>> processor. The Ret6 had i2s hardware but no native library support
>>>> and the ret6 is not guaranteed to have future libmaple support.
>>>> Most of the stm32 peripherals have dma support. For cheap with
>>>> decent i2s you might look at the nuc12x series of chips or as jared
>>>> boone.
>>>>
>>>> ....
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Aug 20, 2012, at 3:46 PM, Paul Stoffregen wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>> .... I am told that at some time in the future there will be
>>>>>> audio.....
>>>>>>
>>>>> Does it have an I2S port (not I2C, but I2S) with DMA?
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