Do you code django with Komodo?

[ristretto.rb]

Hello,

Do you code python/django in Komodo? Care to share your bookmarks?
And tips on how to set it up to get the most out of Komodo for django
dev? Do you use the Editor or the IDE?

I'm new to django and python, and based on some research on this site,
I started looking into the Komodo Editor. I'm considering buying a
license for the IDE.
I hate to have to ask this here, but I'm finding the Komodo
documentation hard to find. I'm seeing code completion to be buggy.
And, there doesn't seem to be much Django specific about it, other
than syntax coloring for django templates.

If Komodo isn't the right choice, feel free to suggest something else.
Is it the best?

Thank You

p.s. django is a killer framework on top of a super-cool language.
big thanks to all of you that make it available. (I hope to get clued
up enough to contribute at some point.)

[Jökull]

What OS are you running? I'm on Windows and use e-texteditor which has
support for TextMate bundles. You can get some pretty nice Django
bundles which will do a lot of autocompleting and such tasks.

Komodo seems to have a couple of nice things going for it - mainly SVN
support. In my setup I'm doing everything off a development Linux
server with an SSH mount - so I've got a Putty window open to do all
my SVN tasks. Works for me and e-texteditor is the best I've seen on
any platform.

[joshuajonah]

I use Komodo, however i cant seem to make the built in interpreter use
the same version of python that i develop on. Not a big deal, i love
the program, especially the forced anal-retentive tabbing.

[Stephan Jäkel]

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Hi,

i used Komodo long time ago but now i'm using notepad++ on windows and
gedit on linux (but i work most time on linux, i need windows for c#
development at work). both are easy to use and have a great syntax
highlighting.
i write the code on my local and use rapidsvn (linux and windows) to
maintain the working copies of my svn repositories.

additionally i added some plugins to gedit for e.g. code completion and
snippets (great stuff!). i think much more functionality deflects the
user from coding.

just my two cents ;-)

best regards,

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[Andre Meyer]

hi

i am using Komodo IDE 4.4 (out today) and like it a lot (switched from eclipse/pydev). Komodo works very well and has a lot of very nice features. the syntax checking of Python and DTL are very nice, just like the autocomplete and code browser.

of course, editors and IDEs are a very personal choice...

cheers
André

[ristretto.rb]

I'm on Linux; I'm looking in the gEdit pluggins - looks very
promising and simple, I never knew gEdit could be extended so much.

I'm also looking at wingware's wingIDE now, which is not free at all,
but looks very much worth the money from the marketing videos.

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[Tye]

(Winblows) Notepad and (OpenBSD) vi
:-)

I don't like colors or auto-complete. Just another example of what

André said:
"editors and IDEs are a very personal choice..."

On the front-end: Firebug to notepad.

Semi-off-topic:
Does anybody know how to get notepad to save as UTF-8 by default? It
keeps trying ANSI, and I keep hating.

[Jörn Paessler]

Hi,

on Windows I used to work with pydev/eclipse. Since it didn't run on
Mac OS X so well, I switched to Komodo Edit first and purchased Komodo
IDE later. The IDE offers support for Subversion and some class
browsing functions.

What I also appreciate is the code completion support for some of the
most popular AJAX frameworks. My favourite is jQuery.

The extensibility of Komodo in our beloved language Python is another
plus.

BTW: would anybody be interested in contributing to a Komodo-Django
extension with shortcuts to manage.py etc., modeling wizards and so on?

Best
Joern

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[Ben Ford]

BTW: would anybody be interested in contributing to a Komodo-Django
extension with shortcuts to manage.py etc., modeling wizards and so on?

Hell yeah, is it relatively straightforward or very involved? I know python pretty well, but firefox/komodo extensions are a bit of a black art!

Ben

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[Jörn Paessler]

>> BTW: would anybody be interested in contributing to a Komodo-Django
>> extension with shortcuts to manage.py etc., modeling wizards and so
>> on?
>
> Hell yeah, is it relatively straightforward or very involved? I know
> python pretty well, but firefox/komodo extensions are a bit of a
> black art!

I found this project at Google Code:
http://code.google.com/p/django-komodo-kit/

It doesn't seem to be too active, though :)

Does anbody know the project owner?

Best wishes
Joern

[ristretto.rb]

Ok, lot's of research and asking in some other places and I think I've
come down to the two front runners in the category of
"coders-who-want-more-than-vi-can-give": Komodo IDE or WingIDE.

I've now heard of and in some cases tried (I run Linux): Eclipse,
IDLE, Eric, jEdit, gEdit, vi, emacs, and others. But, those two above
seem to the be the ones to beat.

I understand WingIDE doesn't work on the MacOS without X. It seems a
bit cheaper for the full version, but there's no OSS version - I don't
mind paying, but close source isn't the best.

Has anyone used Komodo and Wing and can recommend one over the other?
Or are they about the same in general?

[Andre Meyer]

On Wed, Jun 25, 2008 at 9:21 AM, Ben Ford <ben.f...@gmail.com> wrote:

BTW: would anybody be interested in contributing to a Komodo-Django
extension with shortcuts to manage.py etc., modeling wizards and so on?

Hell yeah, is it relatively straightforward or very involved? I know python pretty well, but firefox/komodo extensions are a bit of a black art!

same for me: interested and capable of Python programming, but no knowledge of XUL and the like.

cheers
André

[Andre Meyer]

On Wed, Jun 25, 2008 at 9:55 AM, ristretto. rb <ristre...@gmail.com> wrote:

Has anyone used Komodo and Wing and can recommend one over the other?
Or are they about the same in general?

i have indeed used them both and chosen Komodo IDE. used Komodo Edit, too, but prefer the added features of the IDE (code browser, svn support, debugger). the IDE is basically th saem as the open source Edit with additional features. Komodo support is excellent, too.

imho, Komodo is better for Django because, next to being a great Python IDE, it also supports DTL (although this could be improved) and writing HTML code is much better. installation and project setup of Komodo was easier, too.

good luck
André

[Alaa Salman]

On Jun 25, 11:23 am, "Andre Meyer" <andre.p.me...@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Wed, Jun 25, 2008 at 9:21 AM, Ben Ford <ben.for...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > BTW: would anybody be interested in contributing to a Komodo-Django
> >> extension with shortcuts to manage.py etc., modeling wizards and so on?
>
> > Hell yeah, is it relatively straightforward or very involved? I know python
> > pretty well, but firefox/komodo extensions are a bit of a black art!
>
> same for me: interested and capable of Python programming, but no knowledge
> of XUL and the like.

If anybody would like to collaborate on something, I know both. Python
as well as XUL(and extension development in general...)

Although i do use komodo( and vim) for my Django development, i have
never
done an extension for it before.

[Andre Meyer]

this might be of interest:
http://community.activestate.com/forum-topic/django-lexer-incomplete?destination=node%2F2497

cheers
André

[Brian Luft]

I am the project owner - and yes nothing has been accomplished other
than jotting down a few lofty ideas.

I am just transitioning out of some extended traveling, settling in a
new city, and starting on some new contracts. Making some progress on
the django komodo utils is a high priority for me and I'm glad to see
others are interested. I'd appreciate any help, ideas, and
suggestions as things get going. I also have no experience with XUL
or mozilla extensions so it will be a learning process throughout.

Stay tuned...

Cheers
-Brian

On Jun 25, 12:32 am, Jörn Paessler <joern.paess...@beyond-content.de>
wrote:

[Jörn Paessler]

Hi Brian,

thanks for your reply.

I also appreciate to see interest in a Komodo extension.

Since we come from the Zope world, we have years of experience with
Python.
We also invested a lot of work and energy in the topic IDE for Zope: http://zamasing.com
.
That's reason, why my head is full of ideas for a django IDE ;)

We have some experience in XUL and Firefox extensions. We published the
- Zope Toolbar: http://www.beyond-content.de/zope_lounge/zope_toolbar
and
- Paessler Site Inspector: http://www.paessler.com/tools/psi
a few years ago.

Both of them are/contain XUL/JS driven FF toolbars.
I have no experience with the "Cross Plattform COM" (PyXPCOM)
supported in Komodo yet. But I am also not sure if Python is the
preferable language compared to JS. Since for the latter there are
more examples to find (but also just a few).

How should we proceed? Should we gather a list of ideas and features?

Have great day!

Best
Joern

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[rskm1]

On Jun 24, 4:22 pm, Tye <william.tyler.rog...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Semi-off-topic:
> Does anybody know how to get notepad to save as UTF-8 by default? It
> keeps trying ANSI, and I keep hating.

Unlikely; Notepad is REALLY lightweight.
Wordpad is MUCH better; it handles files >64K, files with UNIX-style
linebreaks, and files with foreign characters. So if you're stuck
with Windows and don't want to install any third-party stuff, just use
Wordpad and forget that Notepad even exists.

Personally, I'm running Linux with KDE, and "kwrite" and "kdevelop"
both have pretty good Python syntax recognition builtin. "kdevelop"
even has tabs and a navigator like the Eclipse IDE, but seems to be
less "bloated". (haven't tried Komodo; freeIDE>$IDE =)

[Eric Holscher]

I'd be interested in this as well. I currently use Komodo Edit, and
love the Vi emulation!

[joshuajonah]

I'm not painfully familiar with the API/whatever to make Komodo
extensions, but i know enough python to get there. I can think of a
million things that would help me get django apps out there faster.