Django user mailing list prefix?
djang...@douidoui.net
I am not really used to Google Groups, my current subscriptions are on
'django-users' and 'sqlalchemy-users' mailing lists only.
On the latter, it was decided recently to have every mail subject prefixed with
"[sqlalchemy]", which I find very nice to identify the origin of the dozens of
mails I received every day from this Google group.
As you might guess, I was wondering if such setup could be done for Django-users
mailing list? I receive hundreds of mails every day from so many contributors,
it would really help to see which mails come from Django users, just by having
something like '[Django'] in front of every mail.
What do you think?
Jay Parlar
This has been brought up before, and the general consensus was a resounding NO!
If you're using a mail reader that can't automatically filter incoming
messages into separate folders, based on the "To:" line, well, then
you should consider changing mail readers.
Jay P.
James Bennett
> mailing list? I receive hundreds of mails every day from so many contributors,
> it would really help to see which mails come from Django users, just by having
> something like '[Django'] in front of every mail.
Generally I'm against that sort of thing; it's easy enough in any good
mail client (including Gmail) to filter based on the 'To:' header and
get things sent into particular folders/labels/whatever, and having
list-name prefixes on every message eats up valuable screen real
estate. For example, I'd much rather filter on the 'To:' and see
Problem using Foobar
Than have a list prefix and see
[Django-users] Problem
(since, of course, most mail clients truncate longer subject lines)
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-- George Carlin
djang...@douidoui.net
The reason I asked is because I use different mail readers (IMAP mail client at
home, online webmail reader at work) and they cannot be configured the same
way.
Anyway, thanks for the info.
Don Arbow
This was the thread entitled "suggestion" about a month ago.
http://groups.google.com/group/django-users/browse_frm/thread/
6207286aa908f9b5/ba7b877ae8a62f7b?lnk=gst&q=mail
+header&rnum=15#ba7b877ae8a62f7b
Don
Kenneth Gonsalves
On 21-Nov-06, at 7:33 PM, djang...@douidoui.net wrote:
> As you might guess, I was wondering if such setup could be done for
> Django-users
> mailing list? I receive hundreds of mails every day from so many
> contributors,
> it would really help to see which mails come from Django users,
> just by having
> something like '[Django'] in front of every mail.
this has been discussed before i think - but for what its worth i am
+1 here
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Horst Gutmann
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Kenneth Gonsalves schrieb:
>
> On 21-Nov-06, at 7:33 PM, djang...@douidoui.net wrote:
>
>> As you might guess, I was wondering if such setup could be done for
>> Django-users
>> mailing list? I receive hundreds of mails every day from so many
>> contributors,
>> it would really help to see which mails come from Django users,
>> just by having
>> something like '[Django'] in front of every mail.
>
> this has been discussed before i think - but for what its worth i am
> +1 here
>
+1 from me, too.
Regards,
Horst
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Jacob Kaplan-Moss
Jacob
Kenneth Gonsalves
On 22-Nov-06, at 9:06 PM, Jacob Kaplan-Moss wrote:
> Guys, this isn't gonna happen.
how does it hurt the cause if it is implemented? Yes, i know that it
is dead easy to configure a mail client to direct the mail into a
separate folder - but some of us like to get all mail into the inbox,
scan it with our eyes and weed out using the delete key. Yes, this
*is* old fashioned, but i can identify mail from [trac], [SQL],
[ZPT], the rest is either django, personal mail or spam. So, unless
there are some deep rooted reasons for not doing this, why dont you
guys help us retards out?
Adrian Holovaty
> how does it hurt the cause if it is implemented? Yes, i know that it
> is dead easy to configure a mail client to direct the mail into a
> separate folder - but some of us like to get all mail into the inbox,
> scan it with our eyes and weed out using the delete key. Yes, this
> *is* old fashioned, but i can identify mail from [trac], [SQL],
> [ZPT], the rest is either django, personal mail or spam. So, unless
> there are some deep rooted reasons for not doing this, why dont you
> guys help us retards out?
Hi Kenneth,
Have a look at the "Identification and Header Management" section in
the fantastic "Producing Open Source Software" book:
http://producingoss.com/html-chunk/mailing-lists.html#header-management
Adrian
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James Bennett
> is dead easy to configure a mail client to direct the mail into a
> separate folder - but some of us like to get all mail into the inbox,
> scan it with our eyes and weed out using the delete key.
As I've said now in both threads on the topic, I think there are solid
reasons why adding extra clutter to subject lines is a bad thing -- it
makes them *less* amenable to quick glances, because while you can see
the name of the list it came from, you also end up seeing less of the
actual subject. For example, consider a CSS-oriented mailing list; if
they use a list prefix, I see this in my inbox:
[css-list] CSS problem in M
CSS problem in Mozilla? In MSIE? In Mosaic? On a Macintosh? Drop the
list prefix from that, and I can see at a glance what the email is
about.
Kenneth Gonsalves
On 23-Nov-06, at 9:30 AM, Adrian Holovaty wrote:
>> there are some deep rooted reasons for not doing this, why dont you
>> guys help us retards out?
>
> Hi Kenneth,
>
> Have a look at the "Identification and Header Management" section in
> the fantastic "Producing Open Source Software" book:
>
> http://producingoss.com/html-chunk/mailing-lists.html#header-
> management
have seen that - looks like a reply-to munging debate again -
idealogicaly reply-to munging is bad, but practicaly has been
accepted practicaly everywhere. Same thing here. Django lists are the
only ones that i subscribe to that dont do this - its no big deal,
but I will vote +1 every time someone brings it up.
Kenneth Gonsalves
On 23-Nov-06, at 9:43 AM, James Bennett wrote:
> actual subject. For example, consider a CSS-oriented mailing list; if
> they use a list prefix, I see this in my inbox:
>
> [css-list] CSS problem in M
>
> CSS problem in Mozilla? In MSIE? In Mosaic? On a Macintosh? Drop the
> list prefix from that, and I can see at a glance what the email is
> about.
i solve that by making the mail client window wider - and you could
prefix it as [Dju] - only 5 characters, wouldnt make all that much
difference.
Don Arbow
>
> i solve that by making the mail client window wider - and you could
> prefix it as [Dju] - only 5 characters, wouldnt make all that much
> difference.
According to your mail headers you're using Apple Mail, with which
you can set a rule to color all Django emails thereby making it
easier to pick them out of your inbox, if you're so inclined.
Don
Tim Terlegård
> > management
>
> have seen that - looks like a reply-to munging debate again -
> idealogicaly reply-to munging is bad, but practicaly has been
> accepted practicaly everywhere. Same thing here. Django lists are the
> only ones that i subscribe to that dont do this - its no big deal,
> but I will vote +1 every time someone brings it up.
I'm with you Gonsalves :)
The other lists I'm on are prefixed as well and I like it. I don't
filter any mails, I get them all in the same inbox.
I guess one could use a mail client that knows how to change the subject
to add the prefix. Is there any such client?
Tim
Kenneth Gonsalves
On 23-Nov-06, at 12:31 PM, Tim Terlegård wrote:
> I guess one could use a mail client that knows how to change the
> subject
> to add the prefix. Is there any such client?
pass it through procmail
Ivan Sagalaev
> i solve that by making the mail client window wider - and you could
> prefix it as [Dju]
And I hate my mailer to occupy the whole desktop and you could filter by
headers :-)
My point is that everyone has their own habits and neither is 'better'
in any way. When there is no *compelling* reason to chose one preference
over another the only way is to cater to preferences of those who
created the list.
gabor
>
> On 23-Nov-06, at 12:31 PM, Tim Terlegård wrote:
>
>> I guess one could use a mail client that knows how to change the
>> subject
>> to add the prefix. Is there any such client?
>
> pass it through procmail
>
yes, that's what i do to REMOVE the prefix in the mailing lists where
they have it :)
gabor