Re: [Django] #35870: Allow customization of the blank option in select dropdowns

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#35870: Allow customization of the blank option in select dropdowns
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Reporter: Marijke Luttekes | Owner: (none)
Type: Cleanup/optimization | Status: new
Component: Forms | Version: 5.0
Severity: Normal | Resolution:
Keywords: accessibility | Triage Stage: Accepted
Has patch: 0 | Needs documentation: 0
Needs tests: 0 | Patch needs improvement: 0
Easy pickings: 0 | UI/UX: 0
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Changes (by Carlton Gibson):

* stage: Unreviewed => Accepted

Comment:

Seems reasonable.

A couple of thoughts...

> The default current value for this option is "---------" and cannot be
customized for the entire project at once.

It's a module level constant so probably can be monkey patched as a
workaround, in a settings file or a `AppConfig.ready()`:

{{{
from django.db.models import fields

fields.BLANK_CHOICE_DASH = [("", "No value selected")
}}}

Given that this is form related, adding an attribute to the
`FORM_RENDERER` would likely be a good candidate location, rather than a
separate setting entirely.

Using the form renderer would also give us a location for deprecation of
the older option (if that is agreed on) as we did similar with the move to
the `<div>` form templates, providing a fallback renderer during the
deprecation period.

I'll accept for both parts, assuming that *accessible by default* is a
goal. Exact replacement for `-----` TBD.
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#35870: Allow customization of the blank option in select dropdowns
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Reporter: Marijke Luttekes | Owner: (none)
Type: Cleanup/optimization | Status: new
Component: Forms | Version: 5.0
Severity: Normal | Resolution:
Keywords: accessibility | Triage Stage: Accepted
Has patch: 0 | Needs documentation: 0
Needs tests: 0 | Patch needs improvement: 0
Easy pickings: 0 | UI/UX: 0
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Comment (by Marijke Luttekes):

Thanks, Carlton! I agree with using `FORM_RENDERER` to set a default value
and also allow a user to override it in settings.

I have asked Thibaud if he wants to use this one for Djangonaut Space
session 3. If not, I will pick it up.
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#35870: Allow customization of the blank option in select dropdowns
--------------------------------------+------------------------------------
Reporter: Marijke Luttekes | Owner: (none)
Type: Cleanup/optimization | Status: new
Component: Forms | Version: 5.0
Severity: Normal | Resolution:
Keywords: accessibility | Triage Stage: Accepted
Has patch: 0 | Needs documentation: 0
Needs tests: 0 | Patch needs improvement: 0
Easy pickings: 0 | UI/UX: 0
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Comment (by Thibaud Colas):

Looking good :) I’ve started doing screen reader testing. Will report back
once my testing is completed. This is so I can quantify this more
precisely:

> The majority of screen reader/speech synthesiser combinations don't
speak this, and so it can be confusing to hear essentially nothing. This
is particularly true when navigating to the first choice from an option
with text.

Regarding the two options – the experience of the Django admin’s end users
should take priority over that of Django developers, and contributors
(translators). So if this is a problem for most screen reader users, it
should be treated as a bug and fixed in the framework and fixed there so
Django is accessible out of the box.
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#35870: Allow customization of the blank option in select dropdowns
-------------------------------------+-------------------------------------
Reporter: Marijke Luttekes | Owner: Thibaud
Type: | Colas
Cleanup/optimization | Status: assigned
Component: Forms | Version: 5.0
Severity: Normal | Resolution:
Keywords: accessibility | Triage Stage: Accepted
Has patch: 0 | Needs documentation: 0
Needs tests: 0 | Patch needs improvement: 0
Easy pickings: 0 | UI/UX: 0
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Changes (by Thibaud Colas):

* owner: (none) => Thibaud Colas
* status: new => assigned

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#35870: Allow customization of the blank option in select dropdowns
-------------------------------------+-------------------------------------
Reporter: Marijke Luttekes | Owner: Thibaud
Type: | Colas
Cleanup/optimization | Status: assigned
Component: Forms | Version: 5.0
Severity: Normal | Resolution:
Keywords: accessibility | Triage Stage: Accepted
Has patch: 0 | Needs documentation: 0
Needs tests: 0 | Patch needs improvement: 0
Easy pickings: 0 | UI/UX: 0
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Comment (by Marijke Luttekes):

The options are not mutually exclusive, so I'd go for both.

Please take extra note of this part of the description:

> […] "(select an option)", using parentheses to disrupt first-letter
keyboard navigation as little as possible.

The use of parentheses is essential to the new label.

(This feedback was provided by James Scholes, who is blind and an
accessibility expert)
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#35870: Allow customization of the blank option in select dropdowns
-------------------------------------+-------------------------------------
Reporter: Marijke Luttekes | Owner: Thibaud
Type: | Colas
Cleanup/optimization | Status: assigned
Component: Forms | Version: 5.0
Severity: Normal | Resolution:
Keywords: accessibility | Triage Stage: Accepted
Has patch: 0 | Needs documentation: 0
Needs tests: 0 | Patch needs improvement: 0
Easy pickings: 0 | UI/UX: 0
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Comment (by Carlton Gibson):

Not sure the monkey patch approach works...

It's used like this at class definition time...

{{{
def get_choices(
self,
include_blank=True,
blank_choice=BLANK_CHOICE_DASH,
limit_choices_to=None,
ordering=(),
):
}}}

... so the `blank_choice` default is set before any monkey patch can
apply.

Sorry for the bum lead there, 'twas but a hunch.
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#35870: Allow customization of the blank option in select dropdowns
-------------------------------------+-------------------------------------
Reporter: Marijke Luttekes | Owner: Thibaud
Type: | Colas
Cleanup/optimization | Status: assigned
Component: Forms | Version: 5.0
Severity: Normal | Resolution:
Keywords: accessibility | Triage Stage: Accepted
Has patch: 0 | Needs documentation: 0
Needs tests: 0 | Patch needs improvement: 0
Easy pickings: 0 | UI/UX: 0
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Comment (by Claude Paroz):

I confirm that additional work for translators is a non-issue.

How about going to the Forum to obtain best practices for an accessible
empty select option?

Could `aria-label` usage help here?
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#35870: Allow customization of the blank option in select dropdowns
-------------------------------------+-------------------------------------
Reporter: Marijke Luttekes | Owner: Thibaud
Type: | Colas
Cleanup/optimization | Status: assigned
Component: Forms | Version: 5.0
Severity: Normal | Resolution:
Keywords: accessibility | Triage Stage: Accepted
Has patch: 0 | Needs documentation: 0
Needs tests: 0 | Patch needs improvement: 0
Easy pickings: 0 | UI/UX: 0
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Comment (by Marijke Luttekes):

> How about going to the Forum to obtain best practices for an accessible
empty select option?

The person who suggested `(select an option)` (James Scholes) is not only
blind but also the head of accessibility of a company that specializes in
inclusive design and accessibility. While I am not saying we shouldn't
consult the forum, I highly value his professional opinion.

> Could `aria-label` usage help here?

I advise against the use of `aria-label`, as it has some issues. Most
notably, translation tools like Google Translate ignore these attributes
completely. Alternatively, you can use `aria-labelledby` and point it to
an element with regular text contents. (The same goes for `aria-
description` versus `aria-describedby`).
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#35870: Allow customization of the blank option in select dropdowns
-------------------------------------+-------------------------------------
Reporter: Marijke Luttekes | Owner: Thibaud
Type: | Colas
Cleanup/optimization | Status: assigned
Component: Forms | Version: 5.0
Severity: Normal | Resolution:
Keywords: accessibility | Triage Stage: Accepted
Has patch: 0 | Needs documentation: 0
Needs tests: 0 | Patch needs improvement: 0
Easy pickings: 0 | UI/UX: 0
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Comment (by jscholes):

I'm not sure about screen reader support levels for `aria-label` on
`<option>`. But I'd recommend against it for two other reasons:

Firstly, with mark-up like `<option aria-label="(select an
option)">-----</option>`, the accessible and visible labels would differ.
WCAG auditors would probably disagree on whether that represented a
failure of success criterion [https://www.w3.org/WAI/WCAG22/Understanding
/label-in-name.html 2.5.3 (Label in Name)], because the line of dashes is
probably not a string that speech recognition users could speak out loud.
Nevertheless, the actual name would be invisible.

This leads onto a more important second point: If developers were to
override the default/placeholder text in code, Django would need to detect
that and remove the `aria-label`. Otherwise, setting e.g.
`blank_choice="None"` in Python would result in the HTML output `<option
aria-label="(select an option)">None</option>`. This would definitely be
a WCAG SC 2.5.3 failure, and a concrete accessibility bug because it would
affect meaning.

If `aria-label` was only updated to match the defined default, it would
arguably be an unnecessary use of ARIA at that point, with the potential
problems described in [https://ericwbailey.website/published/aria-label-
is-a-code-smell/ aria-label is a code smell]. In short, I think `aria-
label` would introduce unwarranted complexity in this case.

As to the specific text of the default option: It doesn't have to be in
parentheses, e.g. MDN uses a string surrounded by dashes in some of their
examples. But it should begin with some sort of punctuation that users
are unlikely to type, to avoid it participating in the typeahead
functionality provided by the browser. E.g. `<option>Choose
one...</option>` would receive focus when users typed the letter C. That
may sometimes be what individual website developers want to happen, at
which point they should be overriding the default anyway.
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#35870: Allow customization of the blank option in select dropdowns
-------------------------------------+-------------------------------------
Reporter: Marijke Luttekes | Owner: Thibaud
Type: | Colas
Cleanup/optimization | Status: assigned
Component: Forms | Version: 5.0
Severity: Normal | Resolution:
Keywords: accessibility | Triage Stage: Accepted
Has patch: 0 | Needs documentation: 0
Needs tests: 0 | Patch needs improvement: 0
Easy pickings: 0 | UI/UX: 0
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Comment (by Claude Paroz):

Thanks James for this precious input. Indeed, I'd be in favor of `--select
an option--` instead of `(select an option)`, but I guess it's about
personal taste…

The semantic issue I can see with such a change is that for non-required
selects, it might imply that choosing an option is somewhat required. Not
a blocker, just a thought.
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#35870: Allow customization of the blank option in select dropdowns
-------------------------------------+-------------------------------------
Reporter: Marijke Luttekes | Owner: Thibaud
Type: | Colas
Cleanup/optimization | Status: assigned
Component: Forms | Version: 5.0
Severity: Normal | Resolution:
Keywords: accessibility | Triage Stage: Accepted
Has patch: 0 | Needs documentation: 0
Needs tests: 0 | Patch needs improvement: 0
Easy pickings: 0 | UI/UX: 0
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Comment (by Marijke Luttekes):

Thibaud suggested I take this issue once he finishes his tests and reports
the findings to this ticket.

I am still deciding how to fix this issue on the Python side. I intend to
dive into the code and see what works.

My initial idea is:

1. Create a new global setting, `BLANK_CHOICE`, with a default,
translatable string value (possibly ).
2. In the `get_choices()` method, make the `blank_choice` optional.
Default it to `None` or an empty string (I am leaning towards None).
3. When there is no custom value for `blank_choice`, default to the Django
setting.

The default value may be a translatable string like `(select an option)`
or `-----` (multiple dashes) for backward compatibility. Due to the
inaccessibility of dashes, we

Idea: Could we combine dashes and parentheses in the label? So `--(select
an option)--`? That way, we have dashes as a visual cue and parentheses to
improve keyboard navigation and screen reader support.

Feedback is appreciated.
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#35870: Allow customization of the blank option in select dropdowns
-------------------------------------+-------------------------------------
Reporter: Marijke Luttekes | Owner: Marijke
| Luttekes
Type: Bug | Status: assigned
Component: Forms | Version: 5.0
Severity: Normal | Resolution:
Keywords: accessibility | Triage Stage: Accepted
Has patch: 0 | Needs documentation: 0
Needs tests: 0 | Patch needs improvement: 0
Easy pickings: 0 | UI/UX: 0
-------------------------------------+-------------------------------------
Changes (by Thibaud Colas):

* owner: Thibaud Colas => Marijke Luttekes
* type: Cleanup/optimization => Bug

Comment:

Here are the results of my testing across six screen readers:

1. NVDA 2024.4, Chrome: no announcement
2. JAWS 2024, Chrome: "dash dash dash" (no matter how many dashes there
are)
3. Narrator 21H2, Microsoft Edge: "dash" sometimes, sometimes no
announcement
4. VoiceOver macOS 14.1, Safari: no announcement
5. VoiceOver iOS 17, Safari: "nine hyphens"
6. Talkback Android 11, Chrome: "nine dash"

Here’s the full recording: [https://youtu.be/HMtEkAaJgWk (YouTube) Django
accessibility testing: dash dash dash (empty select widget)]. And if
anyone wants to do their own testing, here’s my demo page:
[https://thibaudcolas.github.io/django_admin_tests/latest/english/admin/demo/artist/3Rp3pcr8W9rhgF8YhHqplP/change/
Django 5.2 admin change artist - Eno • Hyde].

So it’s only NVDA and VoiceOver macOS that have no announcement at all,
but the "dash" announcements in other screen readers aren’t particularly
helpful either. I would qualify this bug as a failure of WCAG SC 1.3.1
Info and Relationships.

==== Proposed changes

The above confirms a strong need to change the default. And we could also
make this value more easily customize-able. Based on this testing, if we
want to keep using dashes in combination with an intelligible label, I
think the fewer dashes the better – one or two. A single dash/hyphen will
probably be more likely to be skipped by screen readers. I’m not sure if
this is a win or not. For example, I see the
[https://designsystem.digital.gov/components/select/ USWDS design system]
uses this: "- Select -". Perhaps "- Empty -", so we don’t confuse people
that the field doesn’t necessarily need filling in as Claude mentioned?

Assigning back to you Marijke for you to proceed as you see fit.
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#35870: Allow customization of the blank option in select dropdowns
-------------------------------------+-------------------------------------
Reporter: Marijke Luttekes | Owner: Marijke
| Luttekes
Type: Bug | Status: assigned
Component: Forms | Version: 5.0
Severity: Normal | Resolution:
Keywords: accessibility | Triage Stage: Accepted
Has patch: 0 | Needs documentation: 0
Needs tests: 0 | Patch needs improvement: 0
Easy pickings: 0 | UI/UX: 0
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Comment (by Marijke Luttekes):

Below is a response I received from James through Slack, as his response
was blocked by the spam filter for some reason:

> Thanks, Thibaud, for all of this testing and reporting back of results.
>
> I do want to say that it's unequivocally impossible to determine how a
given screen reader will read punctuation. The configurability of screen
readers largely renders that ineffective, including but not limited to:
> * language and locale;
> * speech engine;
> * voice;
> * preset or customised punctuation level;
> * verbosity setup; and
> * speech dictionary entries.
>
> With that in mind, something like "- select -" could work very well,
because it doesn't matter if the dashes are spoken explicitly, trigger a
pause in speech, or are ignored. The meaning will be understood
regardless. Indeed, it's probably better for most users if the dashes are
not spoken, but only if some text is present to make up for it.
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#35870: Allow customization of the blank option in select dropdowns
-------------------------------------+-------------------------------------
Reporter: Marijke Luttekes | Owner: Marijke
| Luttekes
Type: Bug | Status: assigned
Component: Forms | Version: 5.0
Severity: Normal | Resolution:
Keywords: accessibility | Triage Stage: Accepted
Has patch: 0 | Needs documentation: 0
Needs tests: 0 | Patch needs improvement: 0
Easy pickings: 0 | UI/UX: 0
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Comment (by Thibaud Colas):

Excellent! Yes I forgot to mention in all cases that’s the default
configuration of those screen readers.

I was also prevented by the spam filter from commenting with a link to
[https://www.w3.org/WAI/WCAG22/quickref/#info-and-relationships WCAG SC
1.3.1 Info and Relationships]. Not sure if it’s this topic that’s
considered spam-likely, or a W3C link, or what.
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#35870: Allow customization of the blank option in select dropdowns
-------------------------------------+-------------------------------------
Reporter: Marijke Luttekes | Owner: Marijke
| Luttekes
Type: Bug | Status: assigned
Component: Forms | Version: 5.0
Severity: Normal | Resolution:
Keywords: accessibility | Triage Stage: Accepted
Has patch: 0 | Needs documentation: 0
Needs tests: 0 | Patch needs improvement: 0
Easy pickings: 0 | UI/UX: 0
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Comment (by Natalia Bidart):

Thank you everyone for the valuable conversation. Is Discourse accessible
enough to have this conversation with everyone being able to participate,
including James Scholes?
If yes, I would advice that the current designing and decision making
would be, perhaps, better suited and reaching a wider audience in
[https://forum.djangoproject.com/c/internals/accessibility/26 the Forum,
inside the Accessibility category].

Personally, I would suggest that we do not create a new setting (which
IIUC is the proposal in comment:12), I think instead we should pursue the
proposal from Carlton to piggy back into `FORM_RENDERER`. Also I would
vote against using parenthesis, and in favor of `- Select an option -` as
formerly proposed.
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#35870: Allow customization of the blank option in select dropdowns
-------------------------------------+-------------------------------------
Reporter: Marijke Luttekes | Owner: Marijke
| Luttekes
Type: Bug | Status: assigned
Component: Forms | Version: 5.0
Severity: Normal | Resolution:
Keywords: accessibility | Triage Stage: Accepted
Has patch: 0 | Needs documentation: 0
Needs tests: 0 | Patch needs improvement: 0
Easy pickings: 0 | UI/UX: 0
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Comment (by Marijke Luttekes):

Update: I created [[https://github.com/django/django/pull/18924|PR
#18924]] with a fix, assisted by Carlton.

We initially wanted to use a form renderer to set the value, but we had to
resort to a setting.
The PR has details, but the short version is that not every implementation
of a blank choice has access to the form renderer.

We concluded that this change is so impactful and close to the 5.2 feature
freeze that we must postpone it until the 6.0 release.

I checked if we could make a separate change for 5.2 that would allow
users to monkey-patch the label; sadly, this isn't an option.
Blank choice values get defined in multiple locations, including once in a
place that makes it hard to import into several form-related modules
(hence the multiple existing declarations).

So for now, we will have to put this issue on hold.
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#35870: Allow customization of the blank option in select dropdowns
-------------------------------------+-------------------------------------
Reporter: Marijke Luttekes | Owner: Marijke
| Luttekes
Type: Bug | Status: assigned
Component: Forms | Version: 5.0
Severity: Normal | Resolution:
Keywords: accessibility | Triage Stage: Accepted
Has patch: 1 | Needs documentation: 0
Needs tests: 0 | Patch needs improvement: 0
Easy pickings: 0 | UI/UX: 0
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Changes (by Thibaud Colas):

* has_patch: 0 => 1

Comment:

([https://github.com/django/django/pull/18924 PR is in draft with Marijke
looking for input])
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#35870: Allow customization of the blank option in select dropdowns
-------------------------------------+-------------------------------------
Reporter: Marijke Luttekes | Owner: Marijke
| Luttekes
Type: Bug | Status: assigned
Component: Forms | Version: 5.0
Severity: Normal | Resolution:
Keywords: accessibility | Triage Stage: Accepted
Has patch: 1 | Needs documentation: 0
Needs tests: 0 | Patch needs improvement: 0
Easy pickings: 0 | UI/UX: 0
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Comment (by Marijke Luttekes):

I am currently not actively working on this one as life keeps me busy.
Since we're not releasing this anytime soon, I hope to pick it up within
1/1.5 month.
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#35870: Allow customization of the blank option in select dropdowns
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Reporter: Marijke Luttekes | Owner: Marijke
| Luttekes
Type: Bug | Status: assigned
Component: Forms | Version: 5.0
Severity: Normal | Resolution:
Keywords: accessibility | Triage Stage: Accepted
Has patch: 1 | Needs documentation: 0
Needs tests: 0 | Patch needs improvement: 1
Easy pickings: 0 | UI/UX: 0
-------------------------------------+-------------------------------------
Changes (by Sarah Boyce):

* needs_better_patch: 0 => 1

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#35870: Allow customization of the blank option in select dropdowns
-------------------------------------+-------------------------------------
Reporter: Marijke Luttekes | Owner: Marijke
| Luttekes
Type: Bug | Status: assigned
Component: Forms | Version: 5.0
Severity: Normal | Resolution:
Keywords: accessibility | Triage Stage: Accepted
Has patch: 1 | Needs documentation: 0
Needs tests: 0 | Patch needs improvement: 1
Easy pickings: 0 | UI/UX: 0
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Comment (by Thibaud Colas):

Testing test accessibility testing beep beep boop
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#35870: Allow customization of the blank option in select dropdowns
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Reporter: Marijke Luttekes | Owner: Marijke
| Luttekes
Type: Bug | Status: assigned
Component: Forms | Version: 5.0
Severity: Normal | Resolution:
Keywords: accessibility | Triage Stage: Accepted
Has patch: 1 | Needs documentation: 0
Needs tests: 0 | Patch needs improvement: 1
Easy pickings: 0 | UI/UX: 0
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Comment (by Thibaud Colas):

Testing testing beep beep boop

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#35870: Allow customization of the blank option in select dropdowns
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Reporter: Marijke Luttekes | Owner: Marijke
| Luttekes
Type: Bug | Status: assigned
Component: Forms | Version: 5.0
Severity: Normal | Resolution:
Keywords: accessibility | Triage Stage: Accepted
Has patch: 1 | Needs documentation: 0
Needs tests: 0 | Patch needs improvement: 1
Easy pickings: 0 | UI/UX: 0
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Comment (by Annabelle Wiegart):

Would it be okay if I give this ticket a try?

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#35870: Allow customization of the blank option in select dropdowns
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Reporter: Marijke Luttekes | Owner: Marijke
| Luttekes
Type: Bug | Status: assigned
Component: Forms | Version: 5.0
Severity: Normal | Resolution:
Keywords: accessibility | Triage Stage: Accepted
Has patch: 1 | Needs documentation: 0
Needs tests: 0 | Patch needs improvement: 1
Easy pickings: 0 | UI/UX: 0
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Changes (by Annabelle Wiegart):

* cc: Annabelle Wiegart (added)

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Ticket URL: <https://code.djangoproject.com/ticket/35870#comment:22>

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#35870: Allow customization of the blank option in select dropdowns
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Reporter: Marijke Luttekes | Owner: Annabelle
| Wiegart
Type: Bug | Status: assigned
Component: Forms | Version: 5.0
Severity: Normal | Resolution:
Keywords: accessibility | Triage Stage: Accepted
Has patch: 1 | Needs documentation: 0
Needs tests: 0 | Patch needs improvement: 1
Easy pickings: 0 | UI/UX: 0
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Changes (by Jacob Walls):

* owner: Marijke Luttekes => Annabelle Wiegart

Comment:

From the last PR it appears we have Marijke's OK to reassign.
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Ticket URL: <https://code.djangoproject.com/ticket/35870#comment:23>
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