[Django] #33126: No « French » on Transifex?

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#33126: No « French » on Transifex?
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Reporter: Julien Palard | Owner: nobody
Type: Uncategorized | Status: new
Component: Documentation | Version: 3.2
Severity: Normal | Keywords:
Triage Stage: Unreviewed | Has patch: 0
Needs documentation: 0 | Needs tests: 0
Patch needs improvement: 0 | Easy pickings: 0
UI/UX: 0 |
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I found a typo (« résolue comne application ») in the docs, and would like
to fix it.

In [1] when I click « Se joindre à l'équipe » (Join team), Transifex ask
me to choose a language.

I would like to fix a typo in french, (the first language listed on [1]),
but french is not in the select list, so I can't join...

I may be missing something obvious...

[1]: https://www.transifex.com/django/django-docs/

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#33126: No « French » on Transifex?
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Reporter: Julien Palard | Owner: nobody
Type: Uncategorized | Status: new
Component: Documentation | Version: 3.2
Severity: Normal | Resolution:

Keywords: | Triage Stage: Unreviewed
Has patch: 0 | Needs documentation: 0
Needs tests: 0 | Patch needs improvement: 0
Easy pickings: 0 | UI/UX: 0
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Changes (by Carlton Gibson):

* Attachment "Screenshot 2021-09-21 at 15.48.46.png" added.

Screenshot of Transifex UI (with French team)

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#33126: No « French » on Transifex?
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Reporter: Julien Palard | Owner: nobody
Type: Uncategorized | Status: closed
Component: Documentation | Version: 3.2
Severity: Normal | Resolution: invalid

Keywords: | Triage Stage: Unreviewed
Has patch: 0 | Needs documentation: 0
Needs tests: 0 | Patch needs improvement: 0
Easy pickings: 0 | UI/UX: 0
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Changes (by Carlton Gibson):

* status: new => closed
* resolution: => invalid


Comment:

Hi Julien

It seems to be OK to me...

[[Image(https://code.djangoproject.com/raw-
attachment/ticket/33126/Screenshot%202021-09-21%20at%2015.48.46.png)]]

🤔

I guess try reloading etc... (I know that's not very helpful).

Can I ask you to post to the
[https://forum.djangoproject.com/c/internals/i18n/14 i18n section of the
forum] to get help?

Thanks.

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#33126: No « French » on Transifex?
-------------------------------+--------------------------------------

Reporter: Julien Palard | Owner: nobody
Type: Uncategorized | Status: closed
Component: Documentation | Version: 3.2
Severity: Normal | Resolution: invalid

Keywords: | Triage Stage: Unreviewed
Has patch: 0 | Needs documentation: 0
Needs tests: 0 | Patch needs improvement: 0
Easy pickings: 0 | UI/UX: 0
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Comment (by Claude Paroz):

By the way, Julien, I just fixed that typo in Transifex (however new
translated versions are published every 4 to 6 weeks). Thanks!

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Ticket URL: <https://code.djangoproject.com/ticket/33126#comment:2>

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#33126: No « French » on Transifex?
-------------------------------+--------------------------------------

Reporter: Julien Palard | Owner: nobody
Type: Uncategorized | Status: closed
Component: Documentation | Version: 3.2
Severity: Normal | Resolution: invalid

Keywords: | Triage Stage: Unreviewed
Has patch: 0 | Needs documentation: 0
Needs tests: 0 | Patch needs improvement: 0
Easy pickings: 0 | UI/UX: 0
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Changes (by Julien Palard):

* Attachment "transifex.png" added.

Transifex with no french.

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#33126: No « French » on Transifex?
-------------------------------+--------------------------------------

Reporter: Julien Palard | Owner: nobody
Type: Uncategorized | Status: closed
Component: Documentation | Version: 3.2
Severity: Normal | Resolution: invalid

Keywords: | Triage Stage: Unreviewed
Has patch: 0 | Needs documentation: 0
Needs tests: 0 | Patch needs improvement: 0
Easy pickings: 0 | UI/UX: 0
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Comment (by Julien Palard):

Thanks for fixing the typo :)

About refreshing and trying again, no, I open the issue today because it's
the second time in a few months it happen, I gave up the first time, and
I'm opening the issue this time.

[[Image(https://code.djangoproject.com/attachment/ticket/33126/transifex.png)]]

Maybe I already tried to join the team for french and I'm in a kind of
waiting list, so I cannot ask to join again?

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Ticket URL: <https://code.djangoproject.com/ticket/33126#comment:3>

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#33126: No « French » on Transifex?
-------------------------------+--------------------------------------

Reporter: Julien Palard | Owner: nobody
Type: Uncategorized | Status: closed
Component: Documentation | Version: 3.2
Severity: Normal | Resolution: invalid

Keywords: | Triage Stage: Unreviewed
Has patch: 0 | Needs documentation: 0
Needs tests: 0 | Patch needs improvement: 0
Easy pickings: 0 | UI/UX: 0
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Comment (by Claude Paroz):

Replying to [comment:3 Julien Palard]:


> Maybe I already tried to join the team for french and I'm in a kind of
waiting list, so I cannot ask to join again?

That was the right answer! You are in now.

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#33126: No « French » on Transifex?
-------------------------------+--------------------------------------

Reporter: Julien Palard | Owner: nobody
Type: Uncategorized | Status: closed
Component: Documentation | Version: 3.2
Severity: Normal | Resolution: invalid

Keywords: | Triage Stage: Unreviewed
Has patch: 0 | Needs documentation: 0
Needs tests: 0 | Patch needs improvement: 0
Easy pickings: 0 | UI/UX: 0
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Comment (by Julien Palard):

Merci Claude!

Thanks!

(Hope there's not a lot of contributors having bounced-off this waiting
list...)

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Ticket URL: <https://code.djangoproject.com/ticket/33126#comment:5>

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#33126: No « French » on Transifex?
-------------------------------+--------------------------------------

Reporter: Julien Palard | Owner: nobody
Type: Uncategorized | Status: closed
Component: Documentation | Version: 3.2
Severity: Normal | Resolution: invalid

Keywords: | Triage Stage: Unreviewed
Has patch: 0 | Needs documentation: 0
Needs tests: 0 | Patch needs improvement: 0
Easy pickings: 0 | UI/UX: 0
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Comment (by Claude Paroz):

Unfortunately, managing users in Transifex teams is a nightmare. Either
you accept anyone who asks and you find yourself having horrible
translation quality or... I don't know the alternative :-(

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Ticket URL: <https://code.djangoproject.com/ticket/33126#comment:6>

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#33126: No « French » on Transifex?
-------------------------------+--------------------------------------

Reporter: Julien Palard | Owner: nobody
Type: Uncategorized | Status: closed
Component: Documentation | Version: 3.2
Severity: Normal | Resolution: invalid

Keywords: | Triage Stage: Unreviewed
Has patch: 0 | Needs documentation: 0
Needs tests: 0 | Patch needs improvement: 0
Easy pickings: 0 | UI/UX: 0
-------------------------------+--------------------------------------

Comment (by Julien Palard):

Replying to [comment:6 Claude Paroz]:


> Unfortunately, managing users in Transifex teams is a nightmare. Either
you accept anyone who asks and you find yourself having horrible
translation quality or... I don't know the alternative :-(

The alternative is quite easy, don't use Transifex (nor an alternative).
That's what we do for https://docs.python.org/fr, we just have a repo [1],
humans review PRs [2] and we're having a good result in the end (I think).

I remember a very old time when we tried Transifex (or a tool like it) and
ended up with crap or ads instead of translations.

The process is surprisingly more human than on tools like tx, as humans
can discuss in PRs, helping themselves finding better translations, I like
it.

To be honest, there's other translations under docs.python.org that make
use of Transifex, so it's not all good or all bad I bet... I have no idea
how they handle requests not the quality of the result though, I can't
read those languages...

[1] https://github.com/python/python-docs-fr
[2] https://github.com/python/python-docs-fr/pull/1691

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