Issues with the new naturaltime template tag

[Vladimir Macek]

Hello translators,

there's a new `naturaltime' template tag coming with the Django dev
version. It construct a phrase specifying how much ago/from-now the given
time is.
https://docs.djangoproject.com/en/dev/ref/contrib/humanize/#naturaltime

When the difference is more than one day, it calls timesince/timeuntil and
translates its result using "%(delta) ago"/"%(delta) from now" msgids.

In my Czech language the translation of these is rather dumb unless I have
a chance to translate words generated here by timesince/timeuntil differently.

The past form would sound like either "age %(delta)s" or "%(delta)s in the
past". For second form I don't know anything better than "%(delta) in the
future". Not pretty.

Do other languages have similar trouble? In case there is considerable
number of them, I think the code should be changed.

The best I can see now would be to pass i18n contexts like "naturaltime
past"/"naturaltime future" to timesince/timeuntil
OR
don't call timesince/timeuntil at all and reimplement their functionality
using msgids containing words "hours", "minutes" etc. together with "ago"
and "from now" -- just as naturaltime already does when the delta is within
one day (u'a second from now', u'%(count)s seconds from now'), which is
completely ok.

Thank you for responses,

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[Sergiy Kuzmenko]

I agree. We are getting nested translations here which does not work equally well in all languages. Translation strings have to be fully spelled.

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[Lachlan Musicman]

Have you had a look through http://lictionary.in/ to look for prevelance?

cheers
L.

[Vladimir Macek]

No, I didn't. How could it help me with my problem and may I ask you for
examples for my situation?

V.

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[Lachlan Musicman]

On Tue, Nov 29, 2011 at 00:39, Vladimir Macek <ma...@sandbox.cz> wrote:
> No, I didn't. How could it help me with my problem and may I ask you for
> examples for my situation?

Any repo would do, but I think that lictionary have a lot of i18n code
from different open projects making it easy to check horizontally.

I was thinking that you could browse to see how other open source
projects address this issue, and how they translate it into your
language of choice.

I'm not a Czech speaker (actually, the best I do is a little
Indonesian and even my English is wonky), so I can't give concrete
examples, apols.

cheers
L.