Django admin and messages
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Cristiano Coelho
Feb 20, 2016, 2:51:27 PM2/20/16
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Hello,
It seems that all admin "sucess" (and others) messages are hardcoded (almost, actually translations) into the methods that use them and can not be easily changed (like 'The %(name)s "%(obj)s" was added successfully. You may add another %(name)s below.').
This is causing some issues on languages with higher gender usage, like spanish, that you can get into texts like 'El Persona "Id: 123" .....' (should be La Persona), so it would be convenient to be able to easily change these messages so you could just change it to "Object added successfully" or something to prevent the above issue.
Looking through the file django/contrib/admin/options.py you can see the huge usage of texts defined deep into the methods, which makes it impossible to override any of them.
It seems that all admin "sucess" (and others) messages are hardcoded (almost, actually translations) into the methods that use them and can not be easily changed (like 'The %(name)s "%(obj)s" was added successfully. You may add another %(name)s below.').
This is causing some issues on languages with higher gender usage, like spanish, that you can get into texts like 'El Persona "Id: 123" .....' (should be La Persona), so it would be convenient to be able to easily change these messages so you could just change it to "Object added successfully" or something to prevent the above issue.
Looking through the file django/contrib/admin/options.py you can see the huge usage of texts defined deep into the methods, which makes it impossible to override any of them.
Cristiano Coelho
Mar 1, 2016, 8:42:05 PM3/1/16
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Looking it deeper it seems mostly like a translation issue for the spanish (and maybe other) languages, since in some cases both gender articles are added ( "el/la" ) to make it generic but for the specific case I pointed above it is missing.
Should be changed to
The same happens for some other translations below this one. I couldn't find why is it different for some and not for others, but "el/la" is definitely better than "el" and having a female object following it.
Another approach for gender languages like spanish would be to use "el objeto %(obj)" rather than "el/la %(obj)".
msgid ""
"The %(name)s \"%(obj)s\" was added successfully. You may edit it again below."
msgstr ""
"Se añadió con éxito el %(name)s \"%(obj)s. Puede editarlo de nuevo abajo."Should be changed to
msgid ""
"The %(name)s \"%(obj)s\" was added successfully. You may edit it again below."
msgstr ""
"Se añadió con éxito el/la %(name)s \"%(obj)s. Puede editarlo/a de nuevo abajo."The same happens for some other translations below this one. I couldn't find why is it different for some and not for others, but "el/la" is definitely better than "el" and having a female object following it.
Another approach for gender languages like spanish would be to use "el objeto %(obj)" rather than "el/la %(obj)".
Cristiano Coelho
Mar 1, 2016, 9:02:17 PM3/1/16
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Actual file with the issue: https://github.com/django/django/blob/master/django/contrib/admin/locale/es/LC_MESSAGES/django.po#L168
Claude Paroz
Mar 2, 2016, 4:45:24 AM3/2/16
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Le mercredi 2 mars 2016 02:42:05 UTC+1, Cristiano Coelho a écrit :
Another approach for gender languages like spanish would be to use "el objeto %(obj)" rather than "el/la %(obj)".
That's exactly what we are doing for French.
Claude
Cristiano Coelho
Mar 3, 2016, 9:06:15 PM3/3/16
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By "we are doing" do you mean that's how it is translated by django, or are you patching translations on your projects? Any ideas why would it be different for spanish? It really burns my eyes seeing those grammar mistakes :D
Ramiro Morales
Mar 3, 2016, 9:31:19 PM3/3/16
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On Thu, Mar 3, 2016 at 11:06 PM, Cristiano Coelho <cristia...@gmail.com> wrote:
By "we are doing" do you mean that's how it is translated by django, or are you patching translations on your projects? Any ideas why would it be different for spanish? It really burns my eyes seeing those grammar mistakes :D
You could the es_AR translation. I think we have all these cases covered.
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Cristiano Coelho
Mar 3, 2016, 9:41:25 PM3/3/16
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The issue is that we do not force any particular es language, it is pretty much up to the browser so it can be es, es_AR, es_UY etc. And it is not really an issue with this spanish project (all susscess messages are not shown) but a translation issue with spanish translations in general
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