Proposal: Django Apps & Project Repository (again)

[limodou]

There are some threads talking about the apps repository already, but
till now, no repository be found. So I want to suggest again: we
should build an official project web site to host django apps or
projects. So we can easy share our source code and exchange our ideas.
And I think 0.95 is stable enought, and why we still need to wait 1.0,
if there is an official web site to host these things, we can reuse
others source code easily and make django more improvement I think.

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[du...@habmalnefrage.de]

Hi limodou,

limodou schrieb:

> There are some threads talking about the apps repository already, but
> till now, no repository be found. So I want to suggest again: we
> should build an official project web site to host django apps or
> projects. So we can easy share our source code and exchange our ideas.
> And I think 0.95 is stable enought, and why we still need to wait 1.0,
> if there is an official web site to host these things, we can reuse
> others source code easily and make django more improvement I think.
>

I made a call for a new project on sourceforge today.
I would call it django-userlibs.

Regards,
Dirk
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[limodou]

On 8/20/06, du...@habmalnefrage.de <du...@habmalnefrage.de> wrote:
>
> Hi limodou,
>
> limodou schrieb:
> > There are some threads talking about the apps repository already, but
> > till now, no repository be found. So I want to suggest again: we
> > should build an official project web site to host django apps or
> > projects. So we can easy share our source code and exchange our ideas.
> > And I think 0.95 is stable enought, and why we still need to wait 1.0,
> > if there is an official web site to host these things, we can reuse
> > others source code easily and make django more improvement I think.
> >
>
> I made a call for a new project on sourceforge today.
> I would call it django-userlibs.
>
> Regards,
> Dirk
> --
>

Good. But what I hope is a django apps/projects centre, and every
djangor can access it, but not only several people can access it. And
I hope it should be supplied by official.

[Gary Wilson]

limodou wrote:
> There are some threads talking about the apps repository already, but
> till now, no repository be found. So I want to suggest again: we
> should build an official project web site to host django apps or
> projects. So we can easy share our source code and exchange our ideas.
> And I think 0.95 is stable enought, and why we still need to wait 1.0,
> if there is an official web site to host these things, we can reuse
> others source code easily and make django more improvement I think.

I think this is a great idea. Anyone have suggestions on to how this
should be organized?
One big repository or several small ones?
Everybody with an account has access to all projects or form teams for
each project?
Should every project have its own Trac instance?

Separating the projects and forming teams would be more of a Django
mini-SourceForge, and while this might be ideal, it would require quite
a bit more work to setup.

[limodou]

I would like mini-projects, but not a whole repository. If we can make
this platform running, maybe it can replace sf platform. And I think
mozilla community just like what I want.

http://www.mozdev.org

And there are some resources: http://www.mozdev.org/resources/

I see there is no trac on it.

If we don't build a platform like that but we can make a index page to
link separated projects or resources together, I think it's good
either.

I see there is also a rubyforge(http://rubyforge.org/), and it use php.

I think we could provide a simple flatform(maybe just link index
page), and if this platform is useful, we can improve it later.

[Guillermo Fernandez Castellanos]

Hi,

I would find already really useful something like a database with, for
each project a name, description, type of application (middleware,...
or maybe blog, photo manager,...) and a link to the project page (or
blog entrance). All this should have a search function.

This could replace a lot of the middlewares and other applications
that are scattered in the wiki and often hard to find. And could be
easy to make it evolve depending of the needs.

G

[yann....@gmail.com]

Hello,

I have the feeling that this is more or less already existing. It is
called "google code"
- http://code.google.com/hosting/search?q=label:django
It is taking 2 min to create a new projet. the only thing missing there
is a "meta" wiki where the owner of each project can publish
information and documentation. This meta wiki can be organized per
sections.

[limodou]

I think if this functionality built on django official site is the
better, because every djangor can easy find it. I think the first
stage could be the index site supplied by django site, and the exact
projects could be found everywhere. And the second stage could be
hosting the most django relative projects in django repository site.

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[yann....@gmail.com]

I agree with you what absolutely need to be included to the dajngo web
site is at least a pointer to the code repository. It would also be
nice if djangoproject could host the project documentation. However I
think that it would be great to have a sandbox for each project where
visitor can experiment with the end result. Then people will be able to
dig in the code repository to learn from the part they are interested
in.

I would dream of something that is dynamically building the sandbox
from the trunk of the code repository. Ouuups I was again starting to
dream .... :-) sorry for that.

In conclusion I am voting +1 for having a known places where people can
share the creation done on top of django.

[rikl...@gmail.com]

I've added the code.google link on the wiki :)

In general people will host their projects at google, sourceforge and
other sites like these. The basic thing what djangoproject.com should
have is a project catalog where all django based projects can be added,
listed, searched etc.
Second thing - to get more developers use and contribute to django
they need to have a django supporting hosting. Developer that makes
Open Source software wont be interested in paying for such hosting (and
they aren't cheap). They would rather use free alternatives like
mentioned sites and for "home sites" - free or very cheap PHP
hosting :)

I run few FOSS sites and I have free hosting on a commercial LAMP
hosting site. I've mailed nearly all hosting companies from the Django
Friendly host list and non of them agreed to host my sites for 0$ (in
exchange for various help ;)Actually I've got only 3 responses, one of
them: bluehost.com "Looking at django website I'm seeing that they do
not reccomend running it in cgi mode which would be required on our
servers because we do not have mod_python installed nor will we install
it due to security issues."
Is a "we do not officially support django" a friendly hosting? Now
my plan to move my sited to Django is pointless and I'll have to hack
dokuwiki and punBB -_-

Stats:
"Free Django Hosting" 716,000 hits, nr 1. zettai.net didn't
responded to me yet (from a week now)
"free rails hosting" 6,620,000 hits :)
"free php hosting" 139,000,000 hits

[Gary Wilson]

limodou wrote:
> I think if this functionality built on django official site is the
> better, because every djangor can easy find it. I think the first
> stage could be the index site supplied by django site, and the exact
> projects could be found everywhere. And the second stage could be
> hosting the most django relative projects in django repository site.

As for a first stage, the djangoproject wiki would work. For example,
a contributed middleware page already exists:
http://code.djangoproject.com/wiki/ContributedMiddleware

[limodou]

I don't think wiki suit for this. And I assume that the index site
should look like a portal, and it should be visible in django official

[Ian Holsman]

so Limodou.

what's the next step.
have you got a prototype of it ? or a idea on how it will work?
I've got a old linux box you can use to host it until it gets popular.

I'm more for just storing the meta-data of the project, and let the
owners of the project host it on their own (or googles or whoevers)
SVN servers.

regards
ian

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[limodou]

On 8/24/06, Ian Holsman <kry...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> so Limodou.
>
> what's the next step.
> have you got a prototype of it ? or a idea on how it will work?
> I've got a old linux box you can use to host it until it gets popular.

No, I haven't a plan about it, just some ideas. If someone make it a
project, I would like to join it. But I have not so much time now, and
I'm improving my UliPad project now.

>
> I'm more for just storing the meta-data of the project, and let the
> owners of the project host it on their own (or googles or whoevers)
> SVN servers.
>

What you want exactly the first stage of my thought, but if this thing
can be support be django team is the best. If you want to implement
such site?

> regards
> ian

[Ian Holsman]

On 24/08/2006, at 2:00 PM, limodou wrote:

>
> On 8/24/06, Ian Holsman <kry...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> so Limodou.
>>
>> what's the next step.
>> have you got a prototype of it ? or a idea on how it will work?
>> I've got a old linux box you can use to host it until it gets
>> popular.
>
> No, I haven't a plan about it, just some ideas. If someone make it a
> project, I would like to join it. But I have not so much time now, and
> I'm improving my UliPad project now.
>>
>> I'm more for just storing the meta-data of the project, and let the
>> owners of the project host it on their own (or googles or whoevers)
>> SVN servers.
>>
> What you want exactly the first stage of my thought, but if this thing
> can be support be django team is the best. If you want to implement
> such site?

luckily? for me I have a bit of time on my hands tomorrow and
possibly monday.
i could get a start on something 'forgish' which could then be used
to critique/improve on.

>
>> regards
>> ian
>>
>
>
> --
> I like python!
> My Blog: http://www.donews.net/limodou
> UliPad Site: http://wiki.woodpecker.org.cn/moin/UliPad
> UliPad Maillist: http://groups.google.com/group/ulipad
>

[limodou]

On 8/24/06, Ian Holsman <kry...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> On 24/08/2006, at 2:00 PM, limodou wrote:
>
> >
> > On 8/24/06, Ian Holsman <kry...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> so Limodou.
> >>
> >> what's the next step.
> >> have you got a prototype of it ? or a idea on how it will work?
> >> I've got a old linux box you can use to host it until it gets
> >> popular.
> >
> > No, I haven't a plan about it, just some ideas. If someone make it a
> > project, I would like to join it. But I have not so much time now, and
> > I'm improving my UliPad project now.
> >>
> >> I'm more for just storing the meta-data of the project, and let the
> >> owners of the project host it on their own (or googles or whoevers)
> >> SVN servers.
> >>
> > What you want exactly the first stage of my thought, but if this thing
> > can be support be django team is the best. If you want to implement
> > such site?
>
> luckily? for me I have a bit of time on my hands tomorrow and
> possibly monday.
> i could get a start on something 'forgish' which could then be used
> to critique/improve on.
>

Wonderful, I think this will be a great work!

[Gary Wilson]

Ian Holsman wrote:
> luckily? for me I have a bit of time on my hands tomorrow and
> possibly monday.
> i could get a start on something 'forgish' which could then be used
> to critique/improve on.

Ian, does this mean you are working on a DjangoForge written in Django?