Please encourage PsycoPG 2 usage (not 1!)
Nicola Larosa (tekNico)
please apply the patch in ticket #3364 as soon as possible.
There's still people around that do not use PsycoPG 2, because of that
obsolete note in doc/install.txt .
Thank you.
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Kenneth Gonsalves
On 08-Feb-07, at 9:00 PM, Nicola Larosa (tekNico) wrote:
> There's still people around that do not use PsycoPG 2, because of that
> obsolete note in doc/install.txt .
i still use psycopg1 because i prefer it
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Marc Fargas Esteve
But psycopg1 is obsolete so newcomers should be recommended to version
use 2 unless there are still outstanding issues with it. They can
always go to psycopg1 if they want ;)
Kenneth Gonsalves
On 09-Feb-07, at 3:08 PM, Marc Fargas Esteve wrote:
> But psycopg1 is obsolete
in what way is it obsolete? works fine for me - I dont believe in
upgrading to a new and backwardly incompatible version just because
it is new. What are they benefits of pyscopg2 over 1?
Marc Fargas Esteve
# PsycopgOne -- the original psycopg 1.1.x (now obsoleted by psycopg 2)
# PsycopgTwo -- psycopg 2.0, the one you shall use
(from: http://www.initd.org/tracker/psycopg/wiki)
If upstream says something is obsolete you should stop using it ;) On
the benefits I can think of: "Because it is the current version, hence
the maintained one" and you should not encourage newbies to use things
that have been stated as obsolete by it's authors.
And something released six months ago (version 2.0 was released on 8th
June 2006) is not that new. the matter is: "Does django has any issue
when moving from 1.0 to 2.0"? if it has no issue we shouldn't be
encouraging the use of the obsolete version.
I do not say "Drop pyscopg1 support" I just say that we should not be
encouraging the use of something stated as obsolete unless we have an
important reason to do so.
About the "hence the maintained one" psycopg1 is unmaintained since
8th October 2005.
To check the dates yourself:
* http://initd.org/pub/software/psycopg/ChangeLog-1.1
* http://initd.org/pub/software/psycopg/ChangeLog-2.0
Cheers,
Marc
On 2/9/07, Kenneth Gonsalves <law...@thenilgiris.com> wrote:
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>
Kenneth Gonsalves
On 09-Feb-07, at 4:35 PM, Marc Fargas Esteve wrote:
> It is obsole because upstream says so:
> # PsycopgOne -- the original psycopg 1.1.x (now obsoleted by
> psycopg 2)
> # PsycopgTwo -- psycopg 2.0, the one you shall use
> (from: http://www.initd.org/tracker/psycopg/wiki)
>
> If upstream says something is obsolete you should stop using it ;) On
> the benefits I can think of: "Because it is the current version, hence
> the maintained one" and you should not encourage newbies to use things
> that have been stated as obsolete by it's authors.
i am not trolling here. nor do i want to get into any flame wars.
But, i feel the authors went on the wrong track in 2 and should have
stuck to 1. Apart from the authors' opinion, i dont see any other
compelling reason for the switch.
Michael Radziej
> It is obsole because upstream says so:
> # PsycopgOne -- the original psycopg 1.1.x (now obsoleted by psycopg 2)
> # PsycopgTwo -- psycopg 2.0, the one you shall use
> (from: http://www.initd.org/tracker/psycopg/wiki)
>
> If upstream says something is obsolete you should stop using it ;)
Doesn't convince me. And they still fix bugs. From their web site:
"""Important: psycopg 1.1.x is not under active development anymore.
Bugs are still fixed but no new features will be added for any
reason."""
> On
> the benefits I can think of: "Because it is the current version, hence
> the maintained one" and you should not encourage newbies to use things
> that have been stated as obsolete by it's authors.
Many Linux distributions have packages for psycopg1 and not for
psycopg2. That's reason enough to use the old one.
Changing the message in the documentation is another thing. psycopg2
is stable, and so the text should be updated.
Michael
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[...]
> And something released six months ago (version 2.0 was released on 8th
> June 2006) is not that new.
> To check the dates yourself:
> * http://initd.org/pub/software/psycopg/ChangeLog-1.1
> * http://initd.org/pub/software/psycopg/ChangeLog-2.0
And, of course:
* http://initd.org/tracker/psycopg/changeset/759
where you can easly spot a lovely Django tribute from fog. ;o)
C8E
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Ivan Sagalaev
> But psycopg1 is obsolete so newcomers should be recommended to version
> use 2 unless there are still outstanding issues with it.
Am I right that psycopg2 extracts string as unicode (I really don't
know)? If yes then unicode will go straight into models' attributes and
it will break people's code from time to time as recent discussions show.