Let's schedule a Django sprint
Adrian Holovaty
bunch of features that are almost done but haven't yet been
committed/merged -- including newforms-admin, ORM aggregate support,
multi-DB support and GeoDjango. Plus, we've got almost 1,000 open
tickets in our ticket system. Let's spend 24 hours (or maybe even more
than a single day?) to get some of this done in an organized fashion,
and also to encourage new people to contribute.
I propose Friday, September 14. Some reasoning:
* It gives potential participants a week+ to plan ahead, but it's not
so far in the future that we get impatient waiting for it.
* If there's a ton of excitement and momentum, the sprint can continue
into the weekend, without interrupting any other weekdays/workdays.
* For developers who will request that their bosses/companies give
them time off, a Friday is probably the easiest day to argue for,
considering it's the least productive day of the week.
* By then, Malcolm's query.py refactoring will have landed and will
have had a few days to percolate.
Obviously we'll have to figure out the international issues, regarding
how we'll communicate across time zones and structure the work. But
I'm throwing this idea out there to get things moving.
Adrian
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David Cramer
I can see if anyone at the office is interested in participating.
Adrian Holovaty
> You promise we have refactoring done by the 14th? ;)
Well, I was just not-so-subtly encouraging Malcolm to wrap it up by then. :-)
> I can see if anyone at the office is interested in participating.
Cool -- it'd be huge to have you and Brian and the other Curse folks help out.
Joseph Kocherhans
>
> It's about time we scheduled an official Django sprint. We've got a
> bunch of features that are almost done but haven't yet been
> committed/merged -- including newforms-admin, ORM aggregate support,
> multi-DB support and GeoDjango. Plus, we've got almost 1,000 open
> tickets in our ticket system. Let's spend 24 hours (or maybe even more
> than a single day?) to get some of this done in an organized fashion,
> and also to encourage new people to contribute.
>
> I propose Friday, September 14. Some reasoning:
Count me in, for the weekend as well.
/me hopes he can kind of recreate a conference environment at home.
Joseph
Jeremy Dunck
I'm out town / busy until the 16th, but I'm happy to see the motion.
Don't mind me, I just hope to join the next one. :)
Deryck Hodge
> bunch of features that are almost done but haven't yet been
> committed/merged -- including newforms-admin, ORM aggregate support,
> multi-DB support and GeoDjango. Plus, we've got almost 1,000 open
> tickets in our ticket system. Let's spend 24 hours (or maybe even more
> than a single day?) to get some of this done in an organized fashion,
> and also to encourage new people to contribute.
>
> I propose Friday, September 14. Some reasoning:
>
Count me in! Great idea, and great timing for me personally.
I assume IRC will be the meeting place of choice, or were you thinking
something else?
Cheers,
deryck
Adrian Holovaty
I've contacted Brian Fitzpatrick at Google, and he said that he could
try to get Google to host it. Google recently hosted a Python 3000
sprint in Chicago and Mountain View (I attended), and it went really
well, with a super-slick videoconferencing setup between the two
offices.
Before Brian can make any official plans, though, he needs to know a
definite date and roughly how many people to expect in both Chicago
and Mountain View. So if you can commit, please speak up, and the
sooner the better.
David Cramer
in either way.
On Sep 5, 2:39 pm, "Adrian Holovaty" <holov...@gmail.com> wrote:
Marty Alchin
sprints usually work. It's sounding like it's only available for
people to be present in person, but there's no way I can get to
Chicago for a weekend. If it's available for participation over the
Internet, I'd be very interested in taking part.
-Gul
Adrian Holovaty
Yes -- I apologize for not explaining things. Anybody, all over the
world, can participate.
Basically, a Django sprint is an excuse for people to focus their
undivided attention, for a set time frame, on improving Django. We'll
communicate via the Internet, and the people in Chicago and Mountain
View (if, indeed, that option pans out) will just have a focused place
to gather, along with better communication and the other benefits of
face-to-face interaction.
James Bennett
> undivided attention, for a set time frame, on improving Django. We'll
> communicate via the Internet, and the people in Chicago and Mountain
> View (if, indeed, that option pans out) will just have a focused place
> to gather, along with better communication and the other benefits of
> face-to-face interaction.
I'd be happy to participate, assuming I can clear out some of my
work-related to-do list.
--
"Bureaucrat Conrad, you are technically correct -- the best kind of correct."
Malcolm Tredinnick
> It's about time we scheduled an official Django sprint. We've got a
> bunch of features that are almost done but haven't yet been
> committed/merged -- including newforms-admin, ORM aggregate support,
> multi-DB support and GeoDjango. Plus, we've got almost 1,000 open
> tickets in our ticket system. Let's spend 24 hours (or maybe even more
> than a single day?) to get some of this done in an organized fashion,
> and also to encourage new people to contribute.
>
> I propose Friday, September 14. Some reasoning:
Sounds good. I'm in. I'm happy to sit around on a dedicated IRC channel
from early Friday Australian time.
Malcolm
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Jacob Kaplan-Moss
Sweet! Thanks for taking the lead on this :)
I'm certainly in, and if you arrange space in Chicago I'd love an
excuse to come for the weekend...
Jacob
vivek
I would like to join in although I am new to django and python. I am
hoping with around 1000 open tickets you can still use some noob hand.
vivek
Nicola Larosa
> Basically, a Django sprint is an excuse for people to focus their
> undivided attention, for a set time frame, on improving Django. We'll
> communicate via the Internet, and the people in Chicago and Mountain
> View (if, indeed, that option pans out) will just have a focused place
> to gather, along with better communication and the other benefits of
> face-to-face interaction.
That's great. :-) I'll be there most of the time, Central European timezone.
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and you can't assume that something that's true can be proved.
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Russell Keith-Magee
>
> I propose Friday, September 14. Some reasoning:
I've been given the OK from my boss, so I'm in.
I'll be there from around 0800hrs AWST (0000hrs 14 Sept UTC). I have
theater tickets for the evening, so I won't be around from about
1800-2200hrs, but once I return, I should be able to kick into the wee
small hours when the US is just warming up.
Yours,
Russ Magee %-)
David Reynolds
On 5 Sep 2007, at 9:32 pm, Adrian Holovaty wrote:
> I propose Friday, September 14. Some reasoning:
I'm not wholly familiar with how sprints work, but if there's a need
for testers, I can be around a bit on Friday and at the weekend.
Thanks,
David
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Marty Alchin
> world, can participate.
Excellent. I already have the day off from work, so I just have to
decide whether I'd rather be doing a Django sprint or working at a
garage sale. I expect I'll be there.
-Gul
Allagappan M
On 9/6/07, vivek <puri....@gmail.com> wrote:
> I would like to join in although I am new to django and python. I am
> hoping with around 1000 open tickets you can still use some noob hand.
will there be people who can allocate task to them?
Thanks,
Allagappan M
Malcolm Tredinnick
Definitely. Before next Friday we'll try to get some ideas up on the
wiki, too.
I've just created a wiki page for people who want to write down that
they're going to be able to attend.
Everybody else should feel free to add themselves, of course.
Malcolm
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Malcolm Tredinnick
[...]
> I've just created a wiki page for people who want to write down that
> they're going to be able to attend.
>
> Everybody else should feel free to add themselves, of course.
Doh! The wiki page is http://code.djangoproject.com/wiki/Sprint14Sep .
Regards,
Malcolm
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Marty Alchin
> Definitely. Before next Friday we'll try to get some ideas up on the
> wiki, too.
Does this mean there will be some sort of agenda planned for the
things we hope to knock out? At least the major stuff anyway?
-Gul
Malcolm Tredinnick
*shrug*
Sprints are often a bit ad-hoc in terms of allowing people to work on
what they want. Adrian posted a few ideas in his original mail.
I was actually referring to writing up some things like what needs to be
checked if you think a patch might be close to ready, how to go through
and triage a bunch of tickets to look for dupes and patterns, things
like that. Things that people who haven't done much before can do in
small steps and contribute useful stuff. Given that we've had a few
people interested who have admitted to just starting out, we can make it
easier for them.
Malcolm
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Marty Alchin
> Sprints are often a bit ad-hoc in terms of allowing people to work on
> what they want. Adrian posted a few ideas in his original mail.
Okay, that's what I was originally expecting.
> I was actually referring to writing up some things like what needs to be
> checked if you think a patch might be close to ready, how to go through
> and triage a bunch of tickets to look for dupes and patterns, things
> like that. Things that people who haven't done much before can do in
> small steps and contribute useful stuff. Given that we've had a few
> people interested who have admitted to just starting out, we can make it
> easier for them.
And not just for them. I've been hacking on Django for a year now, but
since I've only had a couple very trivial patches checked in, I'm
probably missing some of that knowledge myself.
-Gul
Nick
On Sep 6, 12:51 pm, Malcolm Tredinnick <malc...@pointy-stick.com>
wrote:
> like that. Things that people who haven't done much before can do in
> small steps and contribute useful stuff. Given that we've had a few
> people interested who have admitted to just starting out, we can make it
> easier for them.
That would be good. Although I've been using Django for a while,
I've only really been nibbling around the edges of the codebase.
If there's simple stuff that folk like me can help with, I'd
certainly be interested in joining in.
Nick
Marc Garcia
started hacking django few weeks ago.
Andrews Medina
> That's great. :-) I'll be there most of the time, Central European timezone.
>
Hi. I'm brazillian and I,ll be participating of the django spring.
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Nis Jørgensen
> It's about time we scheduled an official Django sprint. We've got a
> bunch of features that are almost done but haven't yet been
> committed/merged -- including newforms-admin, ORM aggregate support,
> multi-DB support and GeoDjango. Plus, we've got almost 1,000 open
> tickets in our ticket system. Let's spend 24 hours (or maybe even more
> than a single day?) to get some of this done in an organized fashion,
> and also to encourage new people to contribute.
>
"alone" or hosting/arranging an event in Copenhagen/Malmö - GMT+2, but
since we probably wouldn't have any experienced developers, I don't
think it makes sense to start much before you do.
Nis Jorgensen
No House IT
Gary Wilson
> I propose Friday, September 14. Some reasoning:
Count me in. Maybe even some spillover into the weekend while at the
Texas Python Regional Unconference [1].
Gary
Niels Sandholt Busch
some python experience, but a Django noob.
\Niels
Andy Gayton
How likely is it that the sprint will continue through the weekend? I'm
based in LA, and would love to trek up to Mountain View for this - but
its a long way to come for just one day.
cheers,
Andy.
Russell Keith-Magee
>
> It's about time we scheduled an official Django sprint. We've got a
> bunch of features that are almost done but haven't yet been
> committed/merged -- including newforms-admin, ORM aggregate support,
Side note - ORM aggregate support was been here, and was just
mentioned on the blog. Just to set the record straight, I haven't
written any code for this yet as I have been waiting on the queryset
refactor. I was waiting until the dust had settled on a few other
pieces of work (newforms, etc) before I started up serious discussion
on this topic. I'd rather use the sprint to clean house, rather than
to start making a new mess :-)
Yours,
Russ Magee %-)
Nis Jørgensen
> I'm in Copenhagen, and if you do host an event, I will show up. Got
> some python experience, but a Django noob.
>
Location:
No House IT
c/o Indienet
Skelbækgade 40B
1717 Kbh V
E: n...@no-house.dk
T: (+45) 30 74 66 68
Exact time to be announced, based on the wishes of the participants.
Coffee and (wireless) internet access will be provided.
Nis Jørgensen
No House IT
Adrian Holovaty
> OK, it is official, there will be a Copenhagen chapter of the sprint.
That's great! Thanks for organizing this.