Google groups - possible issues with deleted posts.

[Tom Christie]

Be aware that there may be issues with google groups at the moment...

There are two messages in this thread that are marked as deleted, apparently not intentionally.

There are also three messages in this thread, all around the same timeframe which are marked as deleted, which seems a little suspect.

I've also seen one message on a group I manage marked as deleted, again around the same timeframe, and without any action by the sender of the message or by myself.

It is of course not impossible that there's been a spate of moderator and/or user error, but it does seem like google groups is probably being a bit wonky.

Probably worth keeping an eye out for similar behavior.

[Karen Tracey]

On Fri, Nov 16, 2012 at 12:25 PM, Tom Christie <christ...@gmail.com> wrote:

Be aware that there may be issues with google groups at the moment...

Sigh.
 

There are two messages in this thread that are marked as deleted, apparently not intentionally.

These got caught in the sometimes inexplicable "this looks like spam even though it came from an allowed poster" filter. For these GG puts them in the moderation queue but does not send an immediate email to moderators....it sends email sometimes days later, though in this case it seems to have sent that email the email with only a 12 hour or so delay. The emails in the "moderator's spam report" note were:

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Subject: django.contrib.redirects customisation
From: "Лебедев Илья" <mel...@gmail.com>
Date: Nov 15 03:22PM +0400

Recently I needed functionality just like in django.contrib.redirects -
redirects table, that can be edited in admin. I was sad to find out that
its strongly not configurable. For example, I dont need status 301, but
need something else.

Approve: http://groups.google.com/group/django-developers/pendmsg?view=full&pending_id=3390956786051711982

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Subject: Re: Class based views: A standard hook for http-method-independent code
From: George Hickman <geo...@ghickman.co.uk>
Date: Nov 15 04:27AM -0800

I have a slightly different proposal, one where we can avoid the extra hook
but hopefully cover everyone's use cases too.

https://github.com/ghickman/django/commit/85ac39a481074c25af1ed72a7a12e62ff5425e54

I've personally never liked the

Approve: http://groups.google.com/group/django-developers/pendmsg?view=full&pending_id=548044182767120459

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Subject: Re: Class based views: A standard hook for http-method-independent code
From: George Hickman <geo...@ghickman.co.uk>
Date: Nov 15 01:24PM -0800

Apologies if this is a double reply, I think Google Groups might have
deleted my last post...

I'd like to suggest a slight tangent to the proposed feature that hopefully
covers what everyone seems to be looking for.


Approve: http://groups.google.com/group/django-developers/pendmsg?view=full&pending_id=7023679753100488970

(Can anyone see anything in any of these messages that would cause GG to think they were spam??)

Anyway, I did delete the last of these, since it was a duplicate due to the moderation hold up. The other two I moderated through. The first shows up in both the group and my email records for the list. The second apparently only got sent out via email, I have no idea why it doesn't show up in the group (but it did go out to email subscribers -- I have it and there's a response to it in the group). I know the same thing has happened before, where something held in this "might be spam" filter, after being approved, went out in email but never appeared in the group archive. But that apparently doesn't happen all the time since the first message in this batch does appear in the group.
 

There are also three messages in this thread, all around the same timeframe which are marked as deleted, which seems a little suspect.

I have no idea what those might have been. I do recall deleting 4 spam messages, I think yesterday, I think from the dev group. Two had subjects along the lines of "sexy teen hot bodies" and two were google talk invites. Ordinarily I would have just deleted the google talk invites as non-intentional spam, but they were from the same address as the real spam so I marked them all as spam, which has the side-effect of banning the poster. It's possible that even with the different subject lines they were posted to that thread..but from my recollection there were 4, not 3, so I have no idea if those that I remember connect to the three deletions noted in that thread. I don't recall deleting any other messages from the dev group moderation queue in the last few days.

Karen