Fwd: Talk on my reproducible science project?

[sheila miguez]

Hi djangonauts

I asked in chipy, but this talk proposal might be much better for the djangonauts group. What does everyone think?

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From: sheila miguez <she...@pobox.com>
Date: Thu, Nov 21, 2013 at 10:57 AM
Subject: Talk on my reproducible science project?
To: The Chicago Python Users Group <chi...@python.org>

Carl thought that a talk on what I've been working on might be interesting, but I did explain to him that it is just a django site so that there is nothing especially interesting to it. He's been debating this with me a little.

What do people think? I could explain the motivations behind the project, and also discuss why I picked django, and going from a new django developer to an intermediate django developer.

This could be a beginner to intermediate talk about django.

I could instead maybe talk to the djangonauts user group if the topic isn't good for chipy.

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[Brian Moloney]

Hi Sheila,

It would be a great talk to wrap a Djangonauts meetup around. Leet me
know if you'd like to commit to a Djangonauts presentation and I'll
run it up the flagpole.

Brian

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[Matt Dennewitz]

maybe a silly question, but what’s the site?

[sheila miguez]

https://github.com/researchcompendia/tyler

sheila

[sheila miguez]

Someone in chipy said the other chipy members wouldn't be interested things I'd talk about in my talk so I will pick up the conversation here.

Since I've never given a long talk before, I don't know if I can cover all of the below in something longer than a lightning talk on any one things.

I think at a djangonauts meeting I'd like to see a talk by an expert on django-rest-framework and why they'd go with that and javascript over django frontend stuff or visa versa.

I've only been using django for half a year, and before that I did java backend web services where it was basically REST or shoehorn REST all the time everyday. extremely buzzword compliant including words like: service oriented architecture, decoupling, scaling, blah blah blah. Front end? pshaw. I don't need no front end. protobufs should be enough for you.

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From: sheila miguez <she...@pobox.com>
Date: Fri, Nov 22, 2013 at 10:29 AM
Subject: Re: [Chicago] Talk on my reproducible science project?
To: The Chicago Python Users Group <chi...@python.org>

Yeah, I think it might be more interesting to the djangonauts group unless there is a quorum of people interested here.

Carl mentioned a bunch of things in my requirements... I guess I'd probably hit on:

Heroko -- things one needs to learn to run django projects on heroku. Mostly I think people would want to know about collectstatic, django-storages, and environment variable driven configuration.

RESTful stuff - how I wish I knew about django-rest-framework way back at the beginning of my project because then I might have done everything with django-rest-framework and a bunch of javascript rather than using django frontend stuff. I emailed pydanny to see if he or someone had written a blog post about this due to seeing his recommendation of angularjs and django-rest-framework in django-cookiecutter yet also recommending a bunch of packages like django-crispy-forms and other things that seem a bit counter to that. So, which way would one go in either direction and why? I can't answer that insightfully, but I want to know so it should go in a talk. Also, I want people to talk to me about DRY and how to handle javascript crap versus django crap.

Testing - I want to avoid this in my talk due to how embarrassed I am about the lack of testing.

Sunk cost fallacy - django-profiles and django-registration seemed reasonable at first despite the lack of documentation but dealing with the slowness in waiting for a pull request got to be a pain so I dumped everything and switched to django-allauth.

Haystack - by the time I'd give a talk I will probably blah blah a little about that and elasticsearch or whatever happens int he next few days. who knows.

gunicorn - I've already blah blah blahed about this in the other mailing list thread, so I might say one sentence about it.

I think all of the above is more on topic for djangonauts than chipy and they do end up coming up in a djangonauts meeting I will invite you.

On Thu, Nov 21, 2013 at 7:57 PM, eviljoel <evil...@linux.com> wrote:

Hey Sheila,

I might get something out of this because I only know some very basic
Django.  However, I suspect most people would be more interested in
other talks.

Thanks,
eviljoel

On Thu, Nov 21, 2013 at 10:57 AM, sheila miguez <she...@pobox.com> wrote:
>
> Carl thought that a talk on what I've been working on might be interesting,
> but I did explain to him that it is just a django site so that there is
> nothing especially interesting to it. He's been debating this with me a
> little.
>
> What do people think? I could explain the motivations behind the project,
> and also discuss why I picked django, and going from a new django developer
> to an intermediate django developer.
>
> This could be a beginner to intermediate talk about django.
>
> I could instead maybe talk to the djangonauts user group if the topic isn't
> good for chipy.
>
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>

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