Weekly teleconference/chat for DIY happenings/progress and journal club
Bryan Bishop
Quick version: Skype. Wednesday 2010-06-16 at 9pm CST, 10pm EST, 7pm
PST. Journal club and update call for friends of citizen science,
diybio, hardware/wetware hacking. Date/time is negotiable.
Recently there has been some requests for a weekly teleconference/chat
thing for the local community, in particular in the DIY space for
biology and hardware. I have an agenda and would like to do a first
weekly meeting sometime to assess interest in this idea. This would
also be where the journal club would be meeting.. many of us are
transmitting papers back and forth and have insights into the topics,
but we only casually pass around the links, and sometimes people miss
out.
So! I am proposing a weekly skype conference call. This will be for
oral updates and progress reports, a journal club segment, Q/A
sessions, and undoubtedly things will "end" with lots of conversation
on non-agenda stuff which is OK and fantastic. I don't have a time and
date absolutely nailed down yet, but I do know that this would be
maybe an hour at most (depending on our collective schedules), and it
would be starting next week.
Agenda (rough sketch):
* introductions / names (No, you don't have to tell everyone who you are)
* progress reports from individuals- 2 or 5min little segments, maybe
5 or more people will have something to mention
* journal club!
* TBD- like a show-and-tell :-) or "please-help-me" project strategizing
Tentatively, how about next Wednesday (2010-06-16) at 9pm CST (GMT -5)
/ 10pm EST / 7pm PST?.or convince me of a better time slot. I figure
early in the night is better for our types, but there's no reason we
can't decide on something else entirely. (We'll doodle.com it if we
have to.)
Simultaneously I'd like to invite public discourse in an IRC channel-
with about 40 participants/day on average now- in #hplusroadmap on the
freenode IRC network. You're all welcome to drop in whenever, and it's
a good community resource. There's about 20 MB of logs going back to
2007 or 2008, too. Quick instructions: if you've never used IRC
before, and if you use Firefox, you should just install the Chatzilla
plugin, then once you restart firefox, click on the following link.
Chatzilla: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/16
irc://irc.freenode.net/#hplusroadmap
Alright, so who's interested in attending and bringing up some topics?
This is more of a community thing, so I don't know what'll happen to
it, but there's interest and will to make it happen. Most of us can
babble on for hours if you let us..
- Bryan
http://heybryan.org/
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skype: kanzure
Bryan Bishop
From: I.T. Daniher <explod...@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, Jun 8, 2010 at 2:32 PM
Subject: Re: [Open Manufacturing] Weekly teleconference/chat for DIY
happenings/progress and journal club
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I'll be there.
I'm new to the community, but can chat about some interesting hardware
hacking I've been up to and give a bit of background on a rapid
prototyping/light manufacturing/product design startup that I've been
working on. My co-founders and I have lots of love for the open
manufacturing community and hope to give back once we get more fully
established.
Looking forward to seeing [some of you] at Fabtours Boston tomorrow!
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Len Sassaman
> Hey all,
>
> Quick version: Skype. Wednesday 2010-06-16 at 9pm CST, 10pm EST, 7pm
> PST. Journal club and update call for friends of citizen science,
> diybio, hardware/wetware hacking. Date/time is negotiable.
Sounds good to me. However, Wednesday at 4pm is particularly inconvenient
-- I can do 4pm, but ideally on a Monday or Tuesday.
> Tentatively, how about next Wednesday (2010-06-16) at 9pm CST (GMT -5)
> / 10pm EST / 7pm PST?.or convince me of a better time slot. I figure
> early in the night is better for our types, but there's no reason we
> can't decide on something else entirely. (We'll doodle.com it if we
> have to.)
(Just don't forget those of us who are 5 or 6 hours ahead of EST...)
--Len.
Meredith L. Patterson
<Len.Sa...@esat.kuleuven.be> wrote:
> On Tue, 8 Jun 2010, Bryan Bishop wrote:
>
>> Hey all,
>>
>> Quick version: Skype. Wednesday 2010-06-16 at 9pm CST, 10pm EST, 7pm
>> PST. Journal club and update call for friends of citizen science,
>> diybio, hardware/wetware hacking. Date/time is negotiable.
>
> Sounds good to me. However, Wednesday at 4pm is particularly inconvenient --
> I can do 4pm, but ideally on a Monday or Tuesday.
ITYM 4am, CET. Or 3am for Cathal.
--mlp
Len Sassaman
>> Sounds good to me. However, Wednesday at 4pm is particularly inconvenient --
>> I can do 4pm, but ideally on a Monday or Tuesday.
>
> ITYM 4am, CET. Or 3am for Cathal.
Oh. Der. Any chance we can have it at 11pm / midnight, CET? Day of the
week doesn't matter to me in that case, though I do prefer "not Friday".
--Len.
Bryan Bishop
> Great idea! See you there. I'll take notes in IRC and either on a google
> wave or ietherpad.
It's your official job to make sure I don't talk too much- because
when I'm not talking, I can do a transcript with my "amazing" typing
skills.
> Has an article for discussion already been picked?
Nope. This one might have to be a "last minute" article- but yeah I
think in general people should know a week in advance. Anyone want to
volunteer? (if not, I have so many favorites)
Mackenzie Cowell
Bryan Bishop
> I propose we read the paper Anselm suggested about isothermal DNA assembly:
> "Enzymatic assembly of DNA molecules up to several hundred kilobases."
> http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19363495?dopt=Citation
>
> Or we could read Anselm's paper about light-switchable protein interaction:
> "Spatiotemporal control of cell signalling using a light-switchable protein
> interaction"
> http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/v461/n7266/full/nature08446.html
We could do both! But let's have one person focus on one paper as the
primary presenter. If Anselm ends up showing up, he can have his pick
:-) but I'd really enjoy spatiotemporal light control stuff.
> Also, to accomodate the Europeans, could we do the call at 3PM PST / 6PM EST
> / 11?PM GMT? Does that mess-up the west coast? What about 10AM PST / 1PM
> EST / 6?PM GMT ?
GMT is a time standard ;-). So, 6PM EST / 3PM PST is about 5pm CST
(which is GMT -5), and that works for me. 12noon for me works too (on
the second option - 10AM PST, 1PM EST). However, a lot of people
probably have day jobs that would prevent them from showing up during
those early day hours.
I definitely want to hear Meredith and Len on the calls, though. :-)
Derek
if a paper is picked out by this weekend I'll give it a read and try
to make sure I'm near a net cafe for the call...
I'm a bit worried about the logistics, though. From
http://www.skype.com/intl/en-us/support/user-guides/skype-for-mac/skype-features/conference/
"Conference calls
Up to five people can participate in a conference call with Skype."
Is that 5 person limit really the case? If so then another solution
might be best... Also I think only the originator can add people on
Skype, so we probably need to get a list of people to be added
together in advance and make sure that the originator is on a really
good net connection...
The other alternative is to use WebEx or something like that.
Great idea on the call, though! I'd love to get started participating
in something like this...
Thx,
--Derek
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Bryan Bishop
> Is that 5 person limit really the case? If so then another solution
> might be best... Also I think only the originator can add people on
> Skype, so we probably need to get a list of people to be added
> together in advance and make sure that the originator is on a really
> good net connection...
Oh, that sucks. You're right. For some reason I've been on 5+ people
skype conference calls before, however. Anyway, we can do something
with a dial in number if necessary. I'll make sure to get this done in
time on an 800 number.
- Bryan
Derek
Singularity University is through skype but has lots of people on it.
They are using a service at http://www.freeconferencing.com/
I haven't called in to that conference call yet but will likely do so
this week. I'll do a bit of research and report back on call quality,
etc...
--Derek
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Bryan Bishop
> They are using a service at http://www.freeconferencing.com/
Yes, that's the other option I was thinking of. Does anyone have a
favorite telephone conferencing solution? I am a big fan of voice
chat- like doing something over jabber (so that we can all use gchat,
or our favorite jabber server/client setup), but I'd like to hear some
other ideas.
- Bryan
Mackenzie Cowell
sink to boot. Audio quality is ok, but could be better. Tokbox.com
is also pretty cool and includes video.
Shall we go with Anselm's paper then?
Mac
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Derek
quality wasn't great and it was hard when more than one person spoke,
but it worked well enough. Seems a decent solution...
--Derek
On Jun 8, 4:26 pm, Derek <dere...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Another possibility, I just realized that the conference call for
> Singularity University is through skype but has lots of people on it.
Bryan Bishop
> so I skyped in to a freeconferencing.com call today. It was OK. Audio
> quality wasn't great and it was hard when more than one person spoke,
> but it worked well enough. Seems a decent solution...
That sounds like a good plan, although if anyone wants to vouch for
drop.io or tokbox (like Mac) then that might be worth trying. Any
preferences over one or the other?
- Bryan
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Bryan Bishop
Okay, let's hear the final say on this. I can do either way, but to
accomodate our European friends, and so on, does anyone have a strong
preference to one of those times?
Cathal Garvey
So is that 11pm this Sunday? I can possibly join that or earlier. We'd need a good conferencing solution though with so many people and so much distance..
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On Tue, Jun 8, 2010 at 5:04 PM, Bryan Bishop wrote:
> On Tue, Jun 8, 2010 at 4:39 PM, Mackenzie Cowe...
>> Also, to accomodate the Europeans, could we do the call at 3PM PST / 6PM EST
>> / 11?PM GMT? Doe...
Okay, let's hear the final say on this. I can do either way, but to
accomodate our European friends, and so on, does anyone have a strong
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Bryan Bishop
> So is that 11pm this Sunday? I can possibly join that or earlier. We'd need
> a good conferencing solution though with so many people and so much
> distance..
No, it's tomorrow, on a phone line or possibly tokbox/drop.io. So far
it looks like 3pm PST / 6pm EST / 5pm CST. I think this makes it about
midnight for Len and Meredith on CEST?
Bryan Bishop
> I'll probably launch a tokbox channel in parallel just in case anyone wants
> to also connect with video. I just mute the audio input and use tokbox for
> video alone.
Sounds good to me. So let's start off with just trying skype at 3pm
PST / 6pm EST / 5pm CST tomorrow (Wednesday, June 16).
My skype ID is "kanzure". Feel free to connect with me an hour or more
before to make sure things are working. We can do up to 25 people on
skype, but it's okay if we go over the limit- just shows that there's
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Please keep a record for me, i have had a hectic few days and just need sleep.
When I wake up I plan to go and feed the ducks in a place nearby, and
just relax.
I am making a diybio harmfull substance detecter protype in Madrid,
with the community here, and really thinking, what is it that we want
to teach...what do we need our users to know, how do we explain the
necessary complexities and abstract the unneccessary ones(interactivos
http://medialab-prado.es/article/interactivos_ciencia_de_barrio).
my simple ideas are actually questions that you ask your friends
(its like experimental homework ;) )
1) ask people what they think biology is and what is technology
2) ask if they want a reduced version of big science with all that
comes with it, or one tailored to their specific situation (so cheap,
minimal materials, low or known toxitiy of chemicals, neutralisation
always on hand)
3) what does a first aid kit for DIYBio look like, what types of
instructions, what colors
(ie a diybio person with a 1-3month child, vs one with a teenage child)
please post them somewhere (Kanzure can you set up a place for these
questions and people can see and comment on the answers? or if not
Kanzure can that maybe be a discussion point? Waht is apropriate for
the lead users-developer in DIYBIO ) I will contribute when I have
time, but right now I am answering these questions with the people at
MediaLab prado, so it will take a week or so.
I think this DIYBio thing is going to sort itself out soon. We will
know a) what b)why and c)how and with this clearness we can apply for
funding to do the important things for building capacity.
I beleive we have all the pieces of the puzzle necessary for starting
this well and appropriately.
Cheers,
Brian
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Mackenzie Cowell
I messed up my schedule and planned on the call tonight at 10p EST!
Oops.. I hope it goes well, I definitely think it's cool. Organizing
local informal reading groups on a biweekly basis to complement the
virtual discussion might be a good way to bring community members
together as well.
See you next time!
Mac
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