+1 - what Lisa said.
Lead by example.
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Most DIYers start their projects just for fun, not interested in the political aspects. But what fun is it really once you find out that others steal your thunder and interpret the innocent label of f.e. "local produced" as a political statement instead of a eco-friendly indicator? Don't you agree?
Another teethless code of conduct is not what we need. Instead I am looking for more tangible actions.
I am now thinking of describing clearly how the DIY movement benefits from sharing and collaborations. Practical case studies, not in terms of ideological principles. Examples of how appropriation of biotechnologies that enabled a much bigger group of people from benefitting, like how the ODIN shop provides access to CRISPR kits that would otherwise be difficult to get. A few more examples would make the trajectory much more tangible.
Please make more suggestions in case you agree.
+1 for providing more evidence to this alarmists claim. It is quite concerning if it is true.
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+1 for providing more evidence to this alarmists claim. It is quite concerning if it is true.
On Wed, Feb 1, 2017, 7:12 AM ukitel <marco.r...@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi Pieter,I also would like to encourage you to come up with examples or situations that led to think you that the DIY philosophy is beign hijacked.I think this conversation would benefit from that.In general, even if the movement is known as DIY, it is probably better described as "Do It Together".In addition to the comments above, I don't think that there is a moral obligation in helping the other DIYers. However, if you see DIY as a movement, and you feel part of a community, then you will and must contribute by sharing your knowledge, otherwise you are not part of the movement/community.Even though this hijacking threat is new to me, I would welcome a discussion to work together on definitions and directions. If, as a community, we would speak with a single voice, we might gain more control over our narrative.
On Tuesday, 31 January 2017 18:59:57 UTC+1, Pieter Waag wrote:--I agree with you Lisa that we probably all much rather take the pragmatic approach and just keep doing what were already doing (creating open knowledhe and tools), but I am worried that the-path-in-the-making all of a sudden gets surrounded by the wrong crowd and supporters that don't see or deliberately ignore where it's heading.Most DIYers start their projects just for fun, not interested in the political aspects. But what fun is it really once you find out that others steal your thunder and interpret the innocent label of f.e. "local produced" as a political statement instead of a eco-friendly indicator? Don't you agree?
Another teethless code of conduct is not what we need. Instead I am looking for more tangible actions.
I am now thinking of describing clearly how the DIY movement benefits from sharing and collaborations. Practical case studies, not in terms of ideological principles. Examples of how appropriation of biotechnologies that enabled a much bigger group of people from benefitting, like how the ODIN shop provides access to CRISPR kits that would otherwise be difficult to get. A few more examples would make the trajectory much more tangible.
Please make more suggestions in case you agree.
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For example, although not bio-related, this was also a great statement:
https://medium.com/@littleBits/why-littlebits-placed-an-arabic-billboard-in-times-square-3310c2556fa1#.akzeoh1sa
Hi Pieter,
Thanks for the response. I read through the links you posted, but didn't get any sense of the term DIYbio being hijacked. Actually I am slightly confused, as it seems what you posted is in support of DIY/DIWO whatever. It still isn't clear to me what your concern is, or who you purport is hijacking DIYbio for some different meaning.
-Nathan
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Hi Pieter, Christian de Lutz from Art Laboratory Berlin here. I'm not sure the far right is specifically 'hijacking' the DIYBio or DIY science movements. I think what you're (mis?)interpreting is their general appropriation of counter-culture language from the late 20th century. Generally this language was developed by various 'lefts': from 1960s anti-war movements of the 1960s to eco/green movements of the 70s and 80s, left anarchists, feminists, gay rights and minority rights activists, etc - basically most of the left with the exception of mainstream Social Democrats and Third Way neo-liberals.
Take the word 'alternative', which in US politics in the last year has become associated with Breitbart and various far-right, nationalist-populist groups in the US. As recently as two or three years ago it was generally a term of the left meaning the rejection of a unified mainstream monoculture (which is exactly what the neo-traditionalist right wants to re-instate - hence the Orwellian absurdity of their use for 'alternative')
I'm sure if you search far and wide enough you will find somebody from the DIYBio movement from any part of the political spectrum. But I'd be curious if you could find (m)any actual practicing 'Biohackers' who are far-right. I suspect you're more likely to find people far more representation from the left (and perhaps a number of people claiming to be apolitical).
Libertarianism is another question. It's not unconnected with the 'counter-culture,' especially in the US and specifically California. I still meet people claiming to be 'left-libertarian', which always sounds like an oxymoron to me but...
In the US there are certainly a fair number of DIYBio practitioners who use labs to develop their own private projects outside of universities (which are extremely expensive!) But you'll still find a big DIT/DIWO ethos there.
Personally, I'd like to replace DIY with DIWO completely, I think it's much closer to what the movement is about - collective exchange and production. Of course this isn't sexy to bureaucrats in Brussels, who still haven't seemed to have become aware of the after-effects of 2008 (and this cloistered lack of awareness may be the undoing of the European experiment, but being in the NL, I'm sure you're aware of that).
Also refreshing here would be viewpoints outside of the Western (ie US+EU) ghetto. Indonesia seems to have a thriving DIWO/Maker scene and a sense of community development and ethos that may be ahead of Europe. Returning back to Berlin from Java, I felt like going back in time...
The far right may be able to hijack individual states (Trumpistan, NL next month? France in May? Hopefully not!) but I can't imagine them hijacking a maker movement that they probably can't even understand. Generally success in Making seems to come from an openness to exchanging ideas that contains an implicit cosmopolitanism and curiosity at odds with what far-right ideologies are based on.
So if the EU survives I think our priority should be to convince Brussels on the myriad value and potential of these many grass root maker/hacker/DIY/DIWO orgs.