Gene splicing equipment?

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Vincent Hogarth

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Feb 12, 2014, 11:55:33 PM2/12/14
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Hi, I am a high school student who just got into biohacking and all that. I was wandering what equipment I would need for gene splicing and where I could find it. Thanks

DIYBIO Groningen

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Feb 13, 2014, 8:52:10 AM2/13/14
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What do you mean for splicing?

The only gene splicing I know (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alternative_splicing) is made in vivo by cell's enzymes, lots of them! I am not aware of any kit for in vitro splicing. It is an highly regulated event and it depends on the organism you want to use.
You can of course design genes that can undergo to different splicing events. But then what is your goal? Do you want to study some gene splicing?

Maybe you want to clone or “cut and paste” some gene, but in that case it is not called splicing.

What exactly do you want to do? Using which organism?

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Ale - DIYbio GR


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Hi, I am a high school student who just got into biohacking and all that. I was wandering what equipment I would need for gene splicing and where I could find it. Thanks

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Mega [Andreas Stuermer]

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Feb 13, 2014, 9:22:38 AM2/13/14
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I read that some people call editing DNA gene splicing.

Basically what you need is plasmid DNA ( http://www.indiegogo.com/projects/indiebb-your-first-gmo ) and restriction endonuclesases. And micropipette 10-100 uL plus 1-10 uL plus the tips plus tip boxes.

And DNA you want to put into, and has the same restriction sites.

SC

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Feb 13, 2014, 4:42:59 PM2/13/14
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Hi Vincent,
 
Welcome!  While many people here make their own equipment, I prefer to buy mine.  Usually used, or last year's models.
For basic molecular biology, here's a beginner list:
 
An electrophoresis unit (for running DNA on gels)
A small "personal" centrifuge.
A source of long wave UV light.  Small handheld units are not expensive.
A pH meter, or you can substitute paper pH strips
A refrigerator (don't use food fridge)
A freezer (don't use food freezer)
Pipettors
Culture tubes or plates (I like tubes)
Petri plates.
 
Stuff you probably don't need right off but you might want later:
 
A PCR machine (depends on what you want to do)
Stirring hot plate
autoclave
Something to photograph the gels (gel doc system or jury rigged web cam)
incubator
 
Check Ebay, Amazon, Craigslist.  Remember it might take a while to find all the pieces if you're looking for a good deal.
 
If you let us know what types of projects you'd like to work on, we'd be happy to give you some more specific advice.

Nathan McCorkle

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http://diyhpl.us/wiki/diybio/faq/equipment/

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(which is documented here:
http://tequals0.wordpress.com/2013/07/25/an-electrophresis-system-for-diybio/?relatedposts_exclude=1209)

for 'splicing' you'll likely need a PCR thermocycler, and a
constant-temperature heat block (or hot water bath), in addition to a
gel system (including visualization setup for cutting out DNA bands)
and micropipettors, silica DNA purification spin-columns, clean
sterile nuclease-free PCR tubes, other random smallish beakers and
flasks for mixing buffers and gel solutions. Orange capped tubes are
handy too, the 50 and 25ml especially:
http://www.orangesci.com/uploads/images/tc%2044/Tubes_gamme.jpg

(even the styrofoam trays the orange-capped tubes are shipped in
become invaluable as a general tube-stand and students will fight over
who gets to use them!)
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W. Estell

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Feb 14, 2014, 1:12:12 PM2/14/14
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They will also need a DNA ligase.

Cathal Garvey

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Feb 14, 2014, 4:37:51 PM2/14/14
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Alternatively, gibson assembly, but that's a whole other story. No
ligases but a one-time cocktail of (3?) enzymes.

I'm making a point of putting nice primer sites on IndieBB if it goes
ahead so that it'll be gibson-friendly out of the box. :)
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Feb 15, 2014, 4:53:40 AM2/15/14
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PCR cloning is the cheapest option most of the time ( you only need to perform PCRs and in some case blunt self-ligation, Gibson assembly is great ant time saving in case of multiple gene insertion or other extensive. Classic restriction enzyme method is very good gym :)

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Sebastian Cocioba

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Feb 15, 2014, 3:10:12 PM2/15/14
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Personally I like the old school techniques of bacterial amplification
and overnight ligations. I really don't like Gibson for price and error
rate for large bits. Its great for quick work but at $10/rxn Ill pass.
Im in no immediate rush and the wait time gives me extra time to think,
plan, and double check original strategy. In vitro cloning is all fine
and dandy but people spoiled by school teams tend to overlook the
absurd costs involved in using these Ferrari enzymes. I would recommend
shopping around for enzymes and comparing prices including shipping and
asking for a one time new lab discount and but them all in one shot.
NEB offers 50% off of one order. I got all my enzymes in one shot for
half price. If they don't offer discounts remind them that their
competitors do. Negotiation will drastically reduce price. I seldom
ever pay sticker price for anything lab related. Sometimes just asking
for a quote automatically drops prices. Also, get to know your regional
supplier agent. They can hook you up. One last tip is to be extra
aggressive in your discount requests around December since they need to
move all of last years stock off the shelves asap. Asking for samples
is a good start. Ask even if they don't advertise samples. The art of
negotiation has damn near been forgotten. At the end of the day you are
dealing with people, and they can be swayed. Good luck with your lab!

PS if you live in the US and are seriously considering doing biotech as
a hobby/semi-pro, consider forming an LLC to get a business behind your
purchases. They will be more likely to ship if you are not an
individual. Worst case find a local business willing to receive
shipments. A business or nonresidential address is more important and
will open more doors than just an LLC with a res address.

Sebastian S. Cocioba
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New York Botanics, LLC
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Kevin Chen

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Feb 16, 2014, 1:12:31 AM2/16/14
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Howdy,

Interesting conversation so far. I've had good results from PCR extension methods, but I think overall they do end up being more pricey than classic ligation.
But, classic ligation works well too. But, to get that consistently successful, you need to keep track of DNA concentrations and purify each digestion.

If you really want to cut down and just clone something, I would suggest checking out Genomikon:
It'll still run you $300-400, but I think you get almost all of the components that you need, minus a bit of equipment. I would double check that they include bacteria though. I've seen this used in beginner cloning workshops twice now, and both times I've been surprised with the robustness. It comes with a bunch of DNA, which will express different colours (green, blue, red), ligase, powdered agar mix, bacteria (I think) and other stuff needed specific for this kit (magnetic beads, magnets, wash solution, etc.)

What you will still need:
Micropipettes (though it might actually work with something like a capillary tube, or pasteur pipette?)
Petri dishes for growing the bacteria on agar (can be replaced by any other container)

The original concept for the kit is explained here: http://2010.igem.org/Team:Alberta
But I think it has since been upgraded. It will come with a protocol though.
It differs a bit from your classic ligation, but learning it will give you all the concepts and more.

I think it's a good place to start. But if you really want to do some engineering, the previous lists/references are great.

For curiosity: Has anyone else used/heard stuff about the Genomikon kit?

Yeah! IndieBB! http://www.indiegogo.com/projects/indiebb-your-first-gmo Start building your personal DNA library today! Woo!

Kevin
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